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PostSubject: Re: Angel Types   Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:48 am

Interesting idea.

I think it would be more like that the Angels have to work there way up or level up to the next level. Gaining power as they went through life. And would choose what type they become.
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PostSubject: Re: Angel Types   Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:56 am

That whole ranking thing sounds interesting, but I dont think it is a very good idea to create class, upon class, upon class of different angels. The whole reason they are seen as mystical is because we dont know a lot about them. Plus they haven't really shown themselves in Felarya that much.
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PostSubject: Re: Angel Types   Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:48 am

Honestly i really with angels and demons had never been introduced to Felarya, in many ways its supper insensitive to many peoples religions beliefs and not just one level but many of them. Second why would most angels want to eat people, common thats silly. Third if you add them you add good an evil and take out "evolved that way" and thus is an angel can fall from eating people the act becomes evil hence Felarya becomes evil and angels should NOT in any way be befriending Felarya preds. Sorry, putting them in Felarya in the first place was a bad idea.

If you want to compensate for this. Don't have one sorse of angels, have many, just like you could have many hells. This at least mitigats the problem somewhat. Buy extention then there would be huge numbers of angel types just lke their would be demons.
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PostSubject: Re: Angel Types   Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:14 am

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Honestly i really with angels and demons had never been introduced to Felarya, in many ways its supper insensitive to many peoples religions beliefs and not just one level but many of them. Second why would most angels want to eat people, common thats silly. Third if you add them you add good an evil and take out "evolved that way" and thus is an angel can fall from eating people the act becomes evil hence Felarya becomes evil and angels should NOT in any way be befriending Felarya preds. Sorry, putting them in Felarya in the first place was a bad idea.

If you want to compensate for this. Don't have one sorse of angels, have many, just like you could have many hells. This at least mitigats the problem somewhat. Buy extention then there would be huge numbers of angel types just lke their would be demons.


Uhm, do you EVER read the wiki? EVER? Angels and demons are just English phrased concepts of essentially the same forces found in each religion.

They are not Christian Angels. Felarya doesn't go by your rules. They're here, and you just can't change that.


And stop posting in dead threads.

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PostSubject: Re: Angel Types   Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:25 am

was at the top of the pile. and meh, yhea I DO read them.
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PostSubject: Re: Angel Types   Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:36 am

Then you would know they are not the 'christian' angels, right?

I don't see why anyone would get offended, except maybe... you? Are you offended by this or something? Because if you are, you could just ignore it you know.

The comment just came off as you being; 'OMG THIS DOESN'T AGREE WITH MAH BELIEFS!' while trying to not say something so revealing.

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PostSubject: Re: Angel Types   Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:30 am

People get offended all the time, and here ALL the time, its true. Do I get offend when people are jerks here, not usually. Do I get offended when people use angels in a rather inappropriate manner yes, yes I do, do they get used in such a way here yes, yes they do. Saying that they are not Cristian angels, is something of a cop out sense THATS basically where they are from and who uses them in an EXISTING religion. Generally if you put angels in something you are going to default them to a Christian setting unless you take extreme care to make sure they don't come off that way, which hasn't been done.

Still I get attacked for being Cristian all the time, sorry, wow people attacking my faith who would of thought. Honestly I just said I thought it was in bad taste is all, didn't say you couldn't DO it, buy all means you have that right. If some one wants to put angels in their setting and do what you want is your right, but so is it my right to complain about it if I choose to do so. Mind you I try not to raise to much of a fuss here over things, it doesn't help any one generally.

Still this has headed off topic.
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PostSubject: Re: Angel Types   Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:39 am

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People get offended all the time, and here ALL the time, its true. Do I get offend when people are jerks here, not usually. Do I get offended when people use angels in a rather inappropriate manner yes, yes I do, do they get used in such a way here yes, yes they do. Saying that they are not Cristian angels, is something of a cop out sense THATS basically where they are from and who uses them in an EXISTING religion. Generally if you put angels in something you are going to default them to a Christian setting unless you take extreme care to make sure they don't come off that way, which hasn't been done.


You necromanced this topic without intention of having anything constructive to add. You're bawwing talking about religion. Cut both of those out if you can help it.

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Still this has headed off topic.


From the second you brought it back up is when I believe that happened.
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PostSubject: Re: Angel Types   Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:42 am

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People get offended all the time, and here ALL the time, its true. Do I get offend when people are jerks here, not usually. Do I get offended when people use angels in a rather inappropriate manner yes, yes I do, do they get used in such a way here yes, yes they do. Saying that they are not Cristian angels, is something of a cop out sense THATS basically where they are from and who uses them in an EXISTING religion. Generally if you put angels in something you are going to default them to a Christian setting unless you take extreme care to make sure they don't come off that way, which hasn't been done.

Still I get attacked for being Cristian all the time, sorry, wow people attacking my faith who would of thought. Honestly I just said I thought it was in bad taste is all, didn't say you couldn't DO it, buy all means you have that right. If some one wants to put angels in their setting and do what you want is your right, but so is it my right to complain about it if I choose to do so. Mind you I try not to raise to much of a fuss here over things, it doesn't help any one generally.

Still this has headed off topic.


You're the one who started this entire thing, remember?

Uhhhh, okay. IGNORE THIS SECTION if you're going to baaaaaawww about them being angels. You're some kind of nut, aren't you?

Jewish people and Islam too also use angels, just with different words (Hebrew and Arabic). So I'm sorry to burst your special Christian bubble. 8D

I can't see where they seem 'Christian' besides the wings. Uh, yeah, wings. GOOD JOB! TTLY CHRISTIAN THAR.

Also, Thor's up there too! HI THOR, I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE CHRISTIAN.

I'm not attacking you for being Christian, I'm attacking you for being an obnoxious prick. I think you're first little post was in bad taste, assuming everyone is a Christian here! Hmph! If you're offended, go ahead and take your offended self somewhere else. Maybe you can complain about dridders?

Basically, you just came on this thread and said; 'Baaaw, I don't liek this, they aren't the special angels like Gabriel'. How about you start defining 'angel' as 'Positive Spiritual Energy Mass in a Semi-Humanoid Shape'.


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PostSubject: Re: Angel Types   Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:29 am

Lots of cultures have had the concept of the angel and the demon and it is entirely narrow minded and ridiculous to assume them as solely Christian and then take offense. This is Felarya, with abstract manifestations of these creatures in positions we can culturally relate to so as to give and explain the heaven and hell sections of Felarya. There is no Archangel Michael on Felarya - it is entirely separate. It's bizarre you are taking a fantasy world so seriously in relation to the real.

As for types of angels... read this thread... I think the elemental thing should be looked into. But I do think it should be kept separate from Succubi. Not sure how this would work. We have fire, ice, shadow and silver succubi... maybe have water, wind, light and gold angels? (Just a rough idea)

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PostSubject: Re: Angel Types   Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:57 am

my originally point was that multiple angels from multiple sources were a good idea, I just added that the original part to state why I thought that was a good idea. Then things got nasty right off from after that.
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PostSubject: Re: Angel Types   Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:09 pm

Well sorry if I come off as rude but it looks like you started the whole argument. I'll end it with this nothing is ever perfect not even gods so shut up!
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PostSubject: Re: Angel Types   Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:48 pm

so this topic looks relatively untouched now, having been ignored since june, but recently I created an angel character myself (erethriel), who has just one pair of wings.

If you know about angels as described from the christian bible, there are 3 'spheres' of angels each sphere with 3 different types.

* First Sphere (Old Testament sources)
o Seraphim
o Cherubim
o Thrones

* Second Sphere (New Testament sources)
o Dominions
o Virtues
o Powers

* Third Sphere
o Principalities
o Archangels
o Angels
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_angelic_hierarchy (read christian angelic hierarchy here. you can also google angelic hierarchies of different religions though.)
each angel looks a bit different, and their rank/title describes what they do, and so far the named angel ranks are somewhat on par with that.

i like temple angels and guardian angels, but i also think that arcangels and seraphim are necessary to, at least there to make the angels seem a bit more "authentic" if you know what I mean.
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PostSubject: Re: Angel Types   Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:33 am

Mhh thanks for this clarification, this is interesting ^_^
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PostSubject: Re: Angel Types   Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:49 am

Being a huge fan of angels myself, I'm happy to see that we're generally accepting the 9 choirs from angels to seraphim.

However, in the context that Felarya has depicted them so far seems a little, uh, well, seriously out of character.

Angels, in the original context, were already tested in an "Empyrian Heaven", a place where they did not receive sight of God, therefore, allowing them free will.

When Lucifer (meaning "Light Bearer"), the highest and mightiest angel ( a seraphim, no doubt) rebelled against God, he and other angel waged war with those who willingly served God. The good angels, lead by archangel St.Michael, cast the fallen angels into hell.

Of course, Lucifer would become Satan, and his angels would be the demons including, but not limited to sucubbi and incubuses.

Anyways, once the angels had one, they were able to see God, and were 100% pure.

Seeing as though in the Felarya universe, angels can eat humans, and, it might come off as offensive to those who believe in their existence.

Besides that, angels are supposed to be the smartest/fastest/strongest beings in all existence next to God, and if let loose in Felarya, they would be the ultimate UPC.

Angels would no doubt be able to beat any kaiju.

Anyways, to my point:

I recommend that if these angels are further developed in this universe, they would remain closer to the original text, or (like Neon Genesis Evangelion) be merely named after the angels for their powers/wits/etc.

Thats my bit on that.

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