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Sean Okotami Hero


Posts: 1373 Join date: 2008-01-20 Age: 19 Location: Shinnos
 | Subject: Phantom Succubi Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:54 pm | |
| A reclusive race of Succubi leaving in the gloomiest and creepiest areas of Hell; Phantom Succubi are not very numerous in Hell, or anywhere for that matter. They are quite an oddity among demons for that matter. <b><u>Appearance</u></b> Phantom Succubi look like shadowy ghosts of Succubi. They have very dark tones, the most common being gray. This applies for the skin, the hair, and the eyes. This is what they appear for most supernatural creatures such as demons and angels. For mortal creatures, they still retain their Succubus appearance, but the mortal will see the most beautiful creature he will ever see, shaped like a succubus of course. Phantom Succubi are usually 100' tall, but can shrink down to smaller size. <b><u>Behavior</u></b> Most Phantom Succubi have psychotic-like behaviors. They are usually playful, but their fun is usually malicious and mean. They are known as trickster demons, as they play usually mean tricks on people, which usually could kill them. They tend to be curious on how other demons react. Since they are often cut-off from other Succubi, they are fascinated by their behavior. Phantom Succubi are very unpredictable and twisted. Oddly enough, they come out more often on a particular day that happens every year on a remote and unimportant planet called Earth. <b><u>Abilities</u></b> All Phantom Succubi and Phantom Demons for that matter are masters of illusions. Their illusions are so real it can actually harm and kill people with them. For mortals, getting through is all but impossible. Their illusions can range from changing the landscape, disrupting senses, summoning creatures and stuff, cloning, etc. For supernatural beings, breaking through the illusions is difficult, but very possible. Simply thinking of something other than it can work. By using their illusions, they can alter their appearance for everyone else who sees them, including supernatural beings. They can become semi-tangible, as well as fully solid. When semi-tangible, they gain some limited size-shifting abilities, mainly to stretch and extend their limbs to incredible length like rubber, move their body and facial features all around their body, and create/remove limbs on their body. They can stretch and swallow things that are about their size in that form, but the major problem is that they are entirely hollow when semi-tangible. They possess no organs in that form, thus can't digest anything. Some Phantom Succubi can turn solid after ingesting something when semi-tangible and digest it. But, very few can do that after vigorous training. They have a huge weakness, which is their weak physical attributes. For demons, they possess very poor stamina, strength, agility, speed, senses, and durability. They also have weak resistance against magic themselves. I made that a while back, but now I'm looking for brainstorming to make them even more up the standards of quality. _________________ "I don't need an excuse to act or think." - Sean Okotami
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Posts: 646 Join date: 2008-06-25 Age: 31 Location: Fresno, California, USA
 | Subject: Re: Phantom Succubi Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:02 pm | |
| Use square brackets for the bold/underline/italics. Edit: Back.  Ah, okay. The HTML brackets make sense now. Anyways, thoughts incoming. _________________ " Common Sense tells us, 'If it isn't broken, don't fix it!'." " Scientific Method tells us, 'If it isn't broken, break it and figure out how it works!'." " Quantum Mechanics tells us, 'If it can be fixed, it isn't really broken!'." ------------------------------------------- For a larger version of my avatar, see http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9602/quantummechanicsxn2.jpg
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|  | | Sean Okotami Hero


Posts: 1373 Join date: 2008-01-20 Age: 19 Location: Shinnos
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Posts: 646 Join date: 2008-06-25 Age: 31 Location: Fresno, California, USA
 | Subject: Re: Phantom Succubi Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:48 pm | |
| | Sean Okotami wrote: | | Phantom Succubi are usually 100' tall, but can shrink down to smaller size. |
I'm not asking for a definite size here, but how far do you imagine this going? Can they shrink down to a quarter of their size, one-tenth, down to 0.25 inches, what? Just a general idea is fine; I'm wondering if they have total size-altering powers, or if there's a certain limit.
| Sean Okotami wrote: | | Most Phantom Succubi have psychotic-like behaviors. They are usually playful, but their fun is usually malicious and mean. They are known as trickster demons, as they play usually mean tricks on people, which usually could kill them. |
I like this bit, it adds a lot of character. "You have a Phantom Succubi's sense of humor," might not be a compliment among Fire Succubi. 
| Sean Okotami wrote: | | They tend to be curious on how other demons react. Since they are often cut-off from other Succubi, they are fascinated by their behavior. Phantom Succubi are very unpredictable and twisted. |
This is good as well, it adds a bit of a different flavor from the other demonic species. It's a good bit of characterization that they find other Succubi as strange as the other Succubi find them. 
| Sean Okotami wrote: | | Oddly enough, they come out more often on a particular day that happens every year on a remote and unimportant planet called Earth. |
The thought of Phantom Succubi flocking to Earth for Halloween amuses me greatly. It would be nice if that was the one day out of the year where they weren't neccessarily malicious, just out to enjoy themselves. And get candy. Maybe they have "Trick or Treat" contests, and try to out-do one another with legendary pranks.
| Sean Okotami wrote: | | All Phantom Succubi and Phantom Demons for that matter are masters of illusions. |
Your first time mentioning Phantom Demons, are they a seperate thing you're planning on developing as well, or just associated with Phantom Succubi?
| Sean Okotami wrote: | | <clipped the rest to keep the post shorter, did read> |
Okay, that is a pretty powerful power; not really an uncommon one, either. There is nothing wrong with that, and I'm not saying that it's a bad thing, I just want to note that the power isn't too unique.
However, it is a very versatile one, which could be used in so many different ways that individual Phantom Succubi might have their own illusionary specialties (creating an illusionary battlefield, or making labrynths populated with illusionary monsters, or even illusionary offense spells like the Phantasmal Killer from D&D). So, it definitely works.
I also like that you balanced the power out by making them physically weak in most aspects, it's a good design point. In fact, it probably would've been enough by itself to offset the powerful illusions; the fact that you took it even further and made them more vulnerable to magic as well... well, that shows that you have pretty good design skills and creativity. This kind of Succubi is a creature who could be a fearsome, seemingly invincible monster to one person, while practically being a first-level encounter for another. Great job. 
To be honest, I'm really not sure what I can suggest to help raise the standard of quality of your creation; it is already very well done. The only things I can even think to suggest are maybe thinking about the name (Phantasm Succubi or Phantasmal Succubi might work, as well); but really, there isn't anything wrong with it- Phantom Succubi is a fine name.
The only two other suggestions I can think of are maybe working on the society/culture (how they get along with each other, describe life in their cities and what it's like there) and creating a Phantom Succubi character, with a bio and everything. It doesn't have to be an important figure from their culture, just a certain personality to show people a more "real" picture of who they are.
Hope that's helpful, although it doesn't really feel like much. Like I said, you've pretty much got this one nailed down.
I made that a while back, but now I'm looking for brainstorming to make them even more up the standards of quality.[/quote]_________________ " Common Sense tells us, 'If it isn't broken, don't fix it!'." " Scientific Method tells us, 'If it isn't broken, break it and figure out how it works!'." " Quantum Mechanics tells us, 'If it can be fixed, it isn't really broken!'." ------------------------------------------- For a larger version of my avatar, see http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9602/quantummechanicsxn2.jpg |
|  | | Sean Okotami Hero


Posts: 1373 Join date: 2008-01-20 Age: 19 Location: Shinnos
 | Subject: Re: Phantom Succubi Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:54 pm | |
| I was also thinking of giving them the ability of becoming intangible, just like a ghost. Except it's in that form they are the weakest against magic, and can't really physically interact with solid objects. _________________ "I don't need an excuse to act or think." - Sean Okotami
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Posts: 1381 Join date: 2007-12-08 Age: 26
 | Subject: Re: Phantom Succubi Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:13 pm | |
| I think I have a little explanation to flesh your race. The phantom succubis, are very rare and odd specie. They very tall specie, 100 ft. The phantom succubis posses a phase-shift like ability, allowing her to be semi-tangible. Where she is semi tangible she can shape her body at her will and giving the shape she wants, a smaller form of herself,altering her limb or take the the form of living being or inanimate objects. She can make her new shape tangible, to make it more real. That's why is difficult to recognize a phantom succubis when she shape shift herself. Due to the nature of her body the phantasm succubi are very weak against magic. I try to link the different abilities you want to give her to make them more unique What do you think  _________________ I can call the snows, and wind, and lightning. The trees may bend to me when I ask. The rivers may flow where I ask them to. But I am granted these things because I ask , with respect in my heart, and I am willing to offer something in return. I request only the barest needs for myself and my people.
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|  | | Sean Okotami Hero


Posts: 1373 Join date: 2008-01-20 Age: 19 Location: Shinnos
 | Subject: Re: Phantom Succubi Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:15 pm | |
| Yeah, illusion, phase-shifting, and shape-shifting is what I'm talking about. _________________ "I don't need an excuse to act or think." - Sean Okotami
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Posts: 1381 Join date: 2007-12-08 Age: 26
 | Subject: Re: Phantom Succubi Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:31 pm | |
| I think I have understand your problem when you create a creature an OC. You gives many abilities but they are vague and don't have any realtion with each other. In clear all the abilities are independant and look generic or if you try to link in a theme or concept they will look more natural  _________________ I can call the snows, and wind, and lightning. The trees may bend to me when I ask. The rivers may flow where I ask them to. But I am granted these things because I ask , with respect in my heart, and I am willing to offer something in return. I request only the barest needs for myself and my people.
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|  | | Sean Okotami Hero


Posts: 1373 Join date: 2008-01-20 Age: 19 Location: Shinnos
 | Subject: Re: Phantom Succubi Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:34 pm | |
| They are based on ghost like creatures. Some kind of demon specter. _________________ "I don't need an excuse to act or think." - Sean Okotami
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 | |  | | Sean Okotami Hero


Posts: 1373 Join date: 2008-01-20 Age: 19 Location: Shinnos
 | Subject: Re: Phantom Succubi Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:37 pm | |
| Hence why I brought them back here so we flesh them out more. _________________ "I don't need an excuse to act or think." - Sean Okotami
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|  | | TheQuantumMechanic Temple scourge


Posts: 646 Join date: 2008-06-25 Age: 31 Location: Fresno, California, USA
 | Subject: Re: Phantom Succubi Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:04 pm | |
| How attached are you to the shapeshifting part? If it's not vital to the concept, I would recommend taking it out. The main two reasons are because it's somewhat unrelated to the other powers (illusion, and intangibility); it kind of appears to be something extra that was added on, rather than something the concept it built around. The other reason is that since they are extremely powerful illusionists, they can pretty much look like whatever they want; they don't need to physically shapeshift to change their appearance. As far as they're concerned, illusion might be more important than reality, because they have control over illusion. A party in their area of Hell might be more about the way you appear to be dressed than the way you are actually dressed. Social status among them might revolve around who can create the most creative, realistic, frightening, etc. illusions. Am I making sense? I hope I am; I'm trying to give you some ideas you might find interesting and want to work with.  _________________ " Common Sense tells us, 'If it isn't broken, don't fix it!'." " Scientific Method tells us, 'If it isn't broken, break it and figure out how it works!'." " Quantum Mechanics tells us, 'If it can be fixed, it isn't really broken!'." ------------------------------------------- For a larger version of my avatar, see http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9602/quantummechanicsxn2.jpg |
|  | | Sean Okotami Hero


Posts: 1373 Join date: 2008-01-20 Age: 19 Location: Shinnos
 | Subject: Re: Phantom Succubi Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:20 pm | |
| I thought of giving them shape-shifting, limited only by the shape. Kind of like their body is made of rubber. Only work when semi-tangible. _________________ "I don't need an excuse to act or think." - Sean Okotami
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Posts: 646 Join date: 2008-06-25 Age: 31 Location: Fresno, California, USA
 | Subject: Re: Phantom Succubi Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:30 pm | |
| | Sean Okotami wrote: | | I thought of giving them shape-shifting, limited only by the shape. Kind of like their body is made of rubber. Only work when semi-tangible. |
If something like that is the case, I would highly suggest establishing a strongerlink between all three abilities.
Something along the lines of saying that:
"Phantom Succubi don't actually become immaterial the way spirits do; instead, they actually become a living illusion, a phantasm without substance. This grants them control over their non-physical form, shaping their bodies however they will... however, the drawback is that they become extremely vulnerable to many forms of magic. Especially anti-magic and anti-illusion spells, which are capable of causing them physical harm while in this state."
See what I mean? Now, rather than Phantom Succubi having three unrelated powers to create illusions, turn intangible, and change their shape... they really only have one defined powerset. They can still do everything they could before, but now all three abilities are just different facets of the same jewel... instead of being a diamond, an emerald, and a ruby.  _________________ " Common Sense tells us, 'If it isn't broken, don't fix it!'." " Scientific Method tells us, 'If it isn't broken, break it and figure out how it works!'." " Quantum Mechanics tells us, 'If it can be fixed, it isn't really broken!'." ------------------------------------------- For a larger version of my avatar, see http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9602/quantummechanicsxn2.jpg |
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Posts: 1373 Join date: 2008-01-20 Age: 19 Location: Shinnos
 | Subject: Re: Phantom Succubi Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:32 pm | |
| That works. _________________ "I don't need an excuse to act or think." - Sean Okotami
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