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Xeno-the-Hedgehog Roaming thug


Age : 19 Joined : 09 Dec 2007 Posts : 101 Location : Chester, NJ
 | Subject: elementals Sun Dec 30, 2007 7:10 pm | |
| | I noticed that in the Elementals page of the wiki, Fire and Lava are listed as separate elements. Why is that? If you think about it, Lava is a combination of Fire and Earth anyway. |
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Spykeofkonoha valiant swordman


Age : 24 Joined : 09 Dec 2007 Posts : 181
 | Subject: Re: elementals Sun Dec 30, 2007 8:58 pm | |
| | Xeno-the-Hedgehog wrote: | | I noticed that in the Elementals page of the wiki, Fire and Lava are listed as separate elements. Why is that? If you think about it, Lava is a combination of Fire and Earth anyway. |
And that's why they're listed separately I believe. Since Lava is a combination of two elements it's given a separate listing on its own. |
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Xeno-the-Hedgehog Roaming thug


Age : 19 Joined : 09 Dec 2007 Posts : 101 Location : Chester, NJ
 | Subject: Re: elementals Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:40 pm | |
| But doesn't that go against the notion of limiting elementals to just one element?
I believe the wiki made it clear that no elemental could have more than one element at its disposal. |
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gwadahunter2222 Hero


Age : 24 Joined : 08 Dec 2007 Posts : 1074
 | Subject: Re: elementals Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:47 pm | |
| Elemental lava can be considered as an element or sub specie of elemental like sand or ice, it depend of area where is the elemental I think  _________________ I can call the snows, and wind, and lightning. The trees may bend to me when I ask. The rivers may flow where I ask them to. But I am granted these things because I ask , with respect in my heart, and I am willing to offer something in return. I request only the barest needs for myself and my people. |
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Spykeofkonoha valiant swordman


Age : 24 Joined : 09 Dec 2007 Posts : 181
 | Subject: Re: elementals Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:49 pm | |
| | gwadahunter2222 wrote: | Elemental lava can be considered as an element or sub specie of elemental like sand or ice, it depend of area where is the elemental I think  |
Ah, I see what you mean. Depending on the location of that certain type of elemental it could be a slight mix of elements like ice, lava or sand. That's an interesting suggestion. |
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gwadahunter2222 Hero


Age : 24 Joined : 08 Dec 2007 Posts : 1074
 | Subject: Re: elementals Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:55 pm | |
| | Spykeofkonoha wrote: | | gwadahunter2222 wrote: | Elemental lava can be considered as an element or sub specie of elemental like sand or ice, it depend of area where is the elemental I think  |
Ah, I see what you mean. Depending on the location of that certain type of elemental it could be a slight mix of elements like ice, lava or sand. That's an interesting suggestion. |
Yeah that's right, thanks to understand it  _________________ I can call the snows, and wind, and lightning. The trees may bend to me when I ask. The rivers may flow where I ask them to. But I am granted these things because I ask , with respect in my heart, and I am willing to offer something in return. I request only the barest needs for myself and my people. |
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Karbo Evil admin


Joined : 08 Dec 2007 Posts : 1030
 | Subject: Re: elementals Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:18 pm | |
| Well yes in my mind the term "elemental" don' refer to a being made strictly of one primal element. Like Gwadahunter pointed, it's more depending on the location of the elemental ^_^ For example fog, water and ice are supposed to be one unique element but in Felarya this will make three distinct kind of elementals. But thank you for raising the question  |
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Xeno-the-Hedgehog Roaming thug


Age : 19 Joined : 09 Dec 2007 Posts : 101 Location : Chester, NJ
 | Subject: Re: elementals Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:10 am | |
| | so where is the line drawn between fire and lava, or for that matter lava and earth? Surely a lava elemental would have some control over flames, and just the same, it would conceivably be able to harden its lava into solid volcanic rock and/or melt earth. |
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GREGOLE Temple scourge


Age : 18 Joined : 09 Dec 2007 Posts : 627 Location : The Crossroads
 | Subject: Re: elementals Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:13 am | |
| Fire is plasma, which is energy.
Lava is a fluid/solid, which is matter.
There's your difference. |
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Cypress Wise dryad moderator


Age : 22 Joined : 10 Dec 2007 Posts : 237 Location : The Jungle Bowl....
 | Subject: Re: elementals Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:08 am | |
| I think the problem is that your thinking of it in a 'D&D' sense where the creature is made of only the given material (fire, water, ect.) a Felaryan Elemental is a pure magic being. and this being feels a attraction to an element of nature around it (fire, earth, water, lava, mud, candy canes) and wrapes its self up in said element creating a body out of it. it is a easy leap that the beings raw magic would be tinted by its given element material.
so a lava elemental is first a raw magic being that has then wrapped its self in lava to form a body. its magic would involve heat stone and fire...
I hope this helps. its a different approach to elementals than most fantacy settings... _________________ 私は英語を分りません。 XD |
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Karbo Evil admin


Joined : 08 Dec 2007 Posts : 1030
 | Subject: Re: elementals Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:16 am | |
| *bow to the wise dryad*
You pretty much said what I had in mind but in proper english  |
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Cypress Wise dryad moderator


Age : 22 Joined : 10 Dec 2007 Posts : 237 Location : The Jungle Bowl....
 | Subject: Re: elementals Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:27 pm | |
| | Karbo wrote: | *bow to the wise dryad*
You pretty much said what I had in mind but in proper english  |
^^ well English isn't your first language.... your a lot better at it than I am at French... or Japanese for that matter XD just glad to help ^___^ _________________ 私は英語を分りません。 XD |
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Spykeofkonoha valiant swordman


Age : 24 Joined : 09 Dec 2007 Posts : 181
 | Subject: Re: elementals Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:23 pm | |
| | Cypress wrote: | | Karbo wrote: | *bow to the wise dryad*
You pretty much said what I had in mind but in proper english  |
^^ well English isn't your first language.... your a lot better at it than I am at French... or Japanese for that matter XD just glad to help ^___^ |
Heh, git the nail on the head I suppose then. Oh, yeah, we're all better at out primary languages then our learned languages. Hell, I'm still learning German... at least I know how to curse people out down here without getting into trouble. I think that's one of the first things all of use learn right? |
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Oldman40k2003 Naga food

Joined : 09 Dec 2007 Posts : 47
 | Subject: Re: elementals Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:13 am | |
| | Cypress wrote: | | ...this being feels a attraction to an element of nature around it (fire, earth, water, lava, mud, candy canes) and wraps its self up in said element creating a body out of it. |
Candy-cane elementals, one of the few types of elementals that are actively hunted by humans, especially small sugar crazed children.  |
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Cypress Wise dryad moderator


Age : 22 Joined : 10 Dec 2007 Posts : 237 Location : The Jungle Bowl....
 | Subject: Re: elementals Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:23 am | |
| LOL I was wondering when someone would notice that XD _________________ 私は英語を分りません。 XD |
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