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Feadraug valiant swordman


Posts: 194 Join date: 2007-12-09 Age: 26 Location: The Forest of Whispers, along with Kyria
 | Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:12 pm | |
| More things to add... About the clothes thing... It's also something interesting to note that as well. It's quite true that many female characters are naked, but not all of them, fortunatelly. Some are even a bit concerned about it and thus wear clothes. And some male chars like to be naked as well, it depends on the author's criteria. And as noted and to add further for my opinion, Felaryan predators don't have a diet only based on humans... or nekos... or anything humanoid. As mentioned, there are omnivore species, like fairies, who can also eat fruits and vegetables if I'm right, and not all meat has to come from humanoids. It's just that people are fascinated with the predator aspect, but some of us also like other facts in such species, not going for the stereotypes all the time. Oh, and one thing I didn't talk about... | timing2 wrote: | | My only question in regards to the space attack is... why? There are an infinite number of ways the world could conceivably be wiped out by a more powerful army/entity/god/technology, but... why? It's fun stuff to think about I suppose? I'd personally like to see someone running around Felarya with Dr. Who's Demat Gun, but that's neither here nor there. |
I've always thought the very nature of Felarya made it safer against space attacks. Thinking of it, I don't believe Felarya is that easy to reach from outer space, no matter from which universe you come from. It's more like a world moving between worlds, a crossroads sometimes, but being more like a world that is constantly jumping from one reality to another. Thus making nearly impossible to attack it from outer space.
Wrongly named "interdimensional attacks", whoever, would be something different, but I have a hunch that the world of Felarya itself would have something to stand against any menace... |
|  | | FalconJudge Great warrior

Posts: 503 Join date: 2008-11-08 Age: 18
 | Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Mon Sep 28, 2009 7:08 pm | |
| Notys would guard against that sort of thing, or so one would think. |
|  | | Stephiana Tasty morsel
Posts: 7 Join date: 2009-09-28
 | Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:25 pm | |
| @___@ So many replies. Okay, it's making more sense now on the herbivores part (since from your responses and the wiki, everything else just seems more interesting to cover). | Karbo wrote: | There is something that really need to be clarified once and for all I think : the fact that giant predators don't have a diet comprised of 100% humans or sentients beings. ^^; Even a voracious one such as Crisis will have no problems to devour animals if their hunt go poorly.. |
^Thank you for clarifying that. 
| Sillysausage wrote: | Have to say, I agree with you on plenty of those points. Still, Felarya is at heart a fetish world aimed at men, hence all the tits and shaved vag, but no ICKY PENISES. (The 3 or so male nagas store them internally, wat.)
About the whole 'midgets aren't people' thing, I don't think that's what people are trying to convey... I think it's more 'Powerful people can do whatever they want to the weak with no consequences.' Either way, it's always disturbed me a little. 8C
Of course, lots of work is being done, and the world is much more developed than it used to be, with loads of different ideas for plant and animal life and all that. My advice is, if you want stuff to change, have a shot at doing it yourself, we could use someone else. C: |
I'll try to contribute to the wiki sometime when I get to D: And...yeah. Those two major points were the ones that sort of disturbed me.
| Karbo wrote: | -Well the world function totally differently than our own... it's a bit long to explain.. But basically there IS a logical reason for the high number of females and the fact that so much creatures go and vore others. It has something to do with the origins of Felarya but it hasn't been revelaled yet.
-Giant nagas aren't really *that* stealthy. The only one able to move with minimal sound is Crisis. How she manage it remain a mystery.
-Figuring the "shape" of Felarya is really a very difficult thing... ( I don't know if I could draw this but this could be an interesting experiment XD ) But I think you are mistaken... As I see it you can travel on the "sides" of the disk ( or whatever form it is, assumng it's a stable one which is not at all that sure) But if you try to go upward or downward, then you exit it and reappear somewhere else... Atually if you dig really very very deep, you would exit Felarya as well, beginning to dig into the ground of another world.
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Well the shape can wait for later...though I do have to wonder how mountains & volcanoes form on Felarya (where is the lava anyway?). I'll try to work on that sometime. As for the origin on how there are so many creatures that eat others whole along with the high number of females, I hope that gets put up soon sometime.
| timing2 wrote: | | My only question in regards to the space attack is... why? There are an infinite number of ways the world could conceivably be wiped out by a more powerful army/entity/god/technology, but... why? It's fun stuff to think about I suppose? I'd personally like to see someone running around Felarya with Dr. Who's Demat Gun, but that's neither here nor there. |
^I guess it is. *shrug* It's still a miracle that Earth's alive considering all the natural hazards that are around.
Overall, I guess I need to look around the wiki more often and contribute there (points three and four still float around in my mind...). I did come across some world-building guides recently today. Anyone want links to those? |
|  | | Feadraug valiant swordman


Posts: 194 Join date: 2007-12-09 Age: 26 Location: The Forest of Whispers, along with Kyria
 | Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:29 pm | |
| Well, the wiki is quite strict with contributions, but you can always post your ideas in the specific parts of the forum. I'd be glad to read what you have stored for this world... Also, the guidelines you mention might come handy for everyone. Maybe you could share them with everybody, though I don't know the proper part of the forum for it... ^^; |
|  | | Stephiana Tasty morsel
Posts: 7 Join date: 2009-09-28
 | |  | | Raveolution Great warrior


Posts: 562 Join date: 2008-03-29 Location: Zentraedi Macronization Chamber
 | Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:44 pm | |
| There is a major problem with the apparent severe shortage of male preds in Felarya. If this is not a case of the males being hidden somewhere and is in fact a real shortage of male fairies, nagas, etc., in the proportions that are implied in the stories and manga, then killing the males is the fast and efficient way to bring about species extinction. The Crimson Maidens, having been specifically noted as having a shortage of males, are especially vulnerable. The extreme application of fire(or cryo-)power against 1 or 2 individuals would be enough to finish them off; one would just wait them out at this point. Crimson Maidens rarely fall prey to anything, which would help them survive longer, but still, kill a few males and they're at a dead end. Giant nagas obviously fall prey to things like Tonorions (see: Crisis), so attacking their male populace would mean they'd face extinction a lot faster. I say this because it's a weakness that observant humans would be highly driven to exploit. _________________ Innovations Under Fire, Inc. -==+ Tactics for survival, triumph and dire deterrence +==-
"Because the best way to escape a Felaryan predator's stomach... is to never be there in the first place!"
Because Rumor #75 is no friggin joke, y'all. Nor is #73. Or #37. And especially not #38.
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|  | | vegeta002 Hero


Posts: 1033 Join date: 2008-08-01 Age: 20 Location: Wandering around Felarya
 | Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:47 pm | |
| Like they ever could... The guardians would probably see that as a threat to the balance. _________________ Name: Ha'dara - Species: Genki Naga Age: 190 - Gender: Male Element: Ki energy - Height: - 100 foot Diet: Fruit, vegetables, animals Hair: Gold & spiked - Scales: Gold/Orange Eyes: Bright Gold
"There is an upside to shit fanfics... it reminds you that no matter how bad you do, your not the writer of that stuff" - Me
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|  | | Raveolution Great warrior


Posts: 562 Join date: 2008-03-29 Location: Zentraedi Macronization Chamber
 | Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:35 pm | |
| | vegeta002 wrote: | | Like they ever could... The guardians would probably see that as a threat to the balance. |
Yeah, it would require Guardian interference.
I wonder if someone located the males, and then a quick strike team rushed out and did the job, would the Guardians catch that? I mean, if the hits were all done at the same time, I'm sure everything would hinge on Nemyra's ability to see it coming. _________________ Innovations Under Fire, Inc. -==+ Tactics for survival, triumph and dire deterrence +==-
"Because the best way to escape a Felaryan predator's stomach... is to never be there in the first place!"
Because Rumor #75 is no friggin joke, y'all. Nor is #73. Or #37. And especially not #38.
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|  | | rcs619 Moderator

Posts: 372 Join date: 2008-04-07 Age: 21 Location: Hanging out with Fiona in the Bulvon Wood
 | Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:25 pm | |
| | Raveolution wrote: | There is a major problem with the apparent severe shortage of male preds in Felarya.
If this is not a case of the males being hidden somewhere and is in fact a real shortage of male fairies, nagas, etc., in the proportions that are implied in the stories and manga, then killing the males is the fast and efficient way to bring about species extinction. The Crimson Maidens, having been specifically noted as having a shortage of males, are especially vulnerable. The extreme application of fire(or cryo-)power against 1 or 2 individuals would be enough to finish them off; one would just wait them out at this point. Crimson Maidens rarely fall prey to anything, which would help them survive longer, but still, kill a few males and they're at a dead end. Giant nagas obviously fall prey to things like Tonorions (see: Crisis), so attacking their male populace would mean they'd face extinction a lot faster.
I say this because it's a weakness that observant humans would be highly driven to exploit. |
The shortage of males is most likely a natural occurance. Many real-life predator species often have an overabundance of females to males. Its has to be that way in order to keep their numbers in check so they don't eat all the prey species around. Look at lions, for example. The proportion of females to males is many to one. Hyenas are another example. There are always many more female Hyenas than males. Ants (though not strictly predators), most any animal actually. Even in humans, there are usually more females than males around (except at Star Trek conventions *ba-dum-ching* =P).
It is more noticable in Felaryan predator species because...
A: for animals that large, you would need to limit reproductive potential, or they would quickly overrun their environment. Imagine if predators could repopulate as quickly as humans, for example. The jungle would be overrun in a few generations. Many things about predators are there to keep their numbers in check. Birth size, for example. With some exceptions (giants/giantesses, fairies, centaurs and pantaurs) most predators start off roughly human-sized. This is a mechanism to be sure only a relatively small number make it to adulthood, and helps keep the overall population managable. I imagine a great percentage of predators never make it to adulthood because of accidents, or predation by a larger animal.
B: The majority of the community is male, and likes boobs. Thus, they feel the need to not include anything that lacks them.
Just because it isn't mentioned doesn't mean it isnt there. The named predators aren't the only ones in the jungle, and there are more males than people show in their stories and drawings._________________ My Stories, Drawings and Stuff: http://rcs619.deviantart.com/> "Go then. There are other worlds than these." - John "Jake" Chambers > "Something strange is going on in this land of magic and giant, topless, flesh-eating animal-women!" ~ GREGOLE |
|  | | gwadahunter2222 Hero


Posts: 1382 Join date: 2007-12-08 Age: 26
 | Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:45 pm | |
| | Raveolution wrote: | There is a major problem with the apparent severe shortage of male preds in Felarya.
If this is not a case of the males being hidden somewhere and is in fact a real shortage of male fairies, nagas, etc., in the proportions that are implied in the stories and manga, then killing the males is the fast and efficient way to bring about species extinction. The Crimson Maidens, having been specifically noted as having a shortage of males, are especially vulnerable. The extreme application of fire(or cryo-)power against 1 or 2 individuals would be enough to finish them off; one would just wait them out at this point. Crimson Maidens rarely fall prey to anything, which would help them survive longer, but still, kill a few males and they're at a dead end. Giant nagas obviously fall prey to things like Tonorions (see: Crisis), so attacking their male populace would mean they'd face extinction a lot faster.
I say this because it's a weakness that observant humans would be highly driven to exploit. |
We are not in the reign of fire where the miracle solution as it's common in many fiction is to killed the queen or the unique male to the specie to have the happy end. And in overall, in the nature where this kind of things happen newcomers appears to fill the empty space. For example in Jurassic Park, they think to keep the dinosaur population under control was to create only females but they were able to reproduce by themselves and give birth to males afters.
If your theory was true, in Felarya the harpies will be a minor race due to the fact they are 100% females but it exist differents subspecies with different size and shape. If you compare them to the other races in the wiki they have the biggest variety of subspecie.
About the maidens, they can have a system of mating similar to amazonian culture and have children with males to another race and raise the fairies daughter and leaves the boy to the father.
And about the males shortage, it's something normal in the way you can have at the birth rate an important of male or the same number but due to many factors as the dangerous living conditions, the fact in Felarya people live longer including predators and the fact there are race with a gender ratio to 100% to female. it's normal the global population of male is inferior to female. The short number of males prevent the risk of overpopulation.
Even if you try to wipe all the males of the others species in Felarya do you know how many they are really ? where they are ? and how strong they are because it's clear a male is not necessary as soft as than a females and share a different point of view and won't let him killed easily
In addition of that many travellers of different size, race and gender comes to visit to Felarya or just passing by, and the existence of the different giant hybrid predators outside has been developped many time. So you can have mating seasons with differents migrations of males and females inside or outside Felarya.
And according to the current need you have not necessary to end as food  _________________ I can call the snows, and wind, and lightning. The trees may bend to me when I ask. The rivers may flow where I ask them to. But I am granted these things because I ask , with respect in my heart, and I am willing to offer something in return. I request only the barest needs for myself and my people.
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|  | | Oldman40k2003 Moderator


Posts: 142 Join date: 2007-12-09
 | Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:31 pm | |
| | gwadahunter2222 wrote: | | If your theory was true, in Felarya the harpies will be a minor race due to the fact they are 100% females but it exist differents subspecies with different size and shape. If you compare them to the other races in the wiki they have the biggest variety of subspecie. |
Harpies are a special case; "harpy males" vastly outnumber harpy females, because the males of any species can impregnate a harpy female, IE: every single male on Felarya is a potential "harpy male".
| Raveolution wrote: | | I say this because it's a weakness that observant humans would be highly driven to exploit. |
Maybe that is a (possibly partial) explanation as to why there are so few males; they get specifically targeted by observant humans. Thankfully for the predator species though, Felarya is just too dangerous for the humans to be able to kill all of the males. |
|  | | gwadahunter2222 Hero


Posts: 1382 Join date: 2007-12-08 Age: 26
 | Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:33 pm | |
| | Oldman40k2003 wrote: | Harpies are a special case; "harpy males" vastly outnumber harpy females, because the males of any species can impregnate a harpy female, IE: every single male on Felarya is a potential "harpy male". |
I don't think it's so special but depending to what part the genitalia belongs the situation can vary, most of the cases it seems they are loacated in human part it explain maybe why harpies can find potential mate in the other races. Slug girls are hermaphrodite due to the fact their genitalias are in their slug parts, so we can assume a predator with the genitalia located in their animal parts can only mates with their own species but the lucicamp a subspecie of slug gilrs can mate with her prey. the system can vary to a race or a subspecie to another. Somes Dryades may use self-fertlization, spore or lure a passing nearby potential mates. It seems fairies can mates with humans, elves, nekos, tinies or giants and even elementals without problem.
So the barrier of the specie seems very thin in Felarya and allow some cases of indiividual born in a particular race and have a parents from a different race or specie. _________________ I can call the snows, and wind, and lightning. The trees may bend to me when I ask. The rivers may flow where I ask them to. But I am granted these things because I ask , with respect in my heart, and I am willing to offer something in return. I request only the barest needs for myself and my people.
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|  | | Raveolution Great warrior


Posts: 562 Join date: 2008-03-29 Location: Zentraedi Macronization Chamber
 | Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:26 am | |
| | Oldman40k2003 wrote: | | Maybe that is a (possibly partial) explanation as to why there are so few males; they get specifically targeted by observant humans. Thankfully for the predator species though, Felarya is just too dangerous for the humans to be able to kill all of the males. |
Theoretical things aside, practically speaking it's too dangerous but more importantly, too large. Too many hidey holes.
My question is, what human would be crazy enough to mate with a Felaryan fairy? Yeah, there's one mage who does it but... damn. That and humans water down the fairy gene pool... _________________ Innovations Under Fire, Inc. -==+ Tactics for survival, triumph and dire deterrence +==-
"Because the best way to escape a Felaryan predator's stomach... is to never be there in the first place!"
Because Rumor #75 is no friggin joke, y'all. Nor is #73. Or #37. And especially not #38.
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|  | | gwadahunter2222 Hero


Posts: 1382 Join date: 2007-12-08 Age: 26
 | Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:15 am | |
| | Raveolution wrote: | My question is, what human would be crazy enough to mate with a Felaryan fairy? Yeah, there's one mage who does it but... damn. That and humans water down the fairy gene pool... |
I don't think the case of Mezzus is unique.
When we look at the different sexual tendencies, fetish and different fantasy, fictions it won't be a problem to human to cross the barrier of species. If you complain the fact the fairies hates human, there is human who willingly have sexual relations with demons knowing they will eat their souls in return.
The genetic has a lot of black boxes even in many centuries of studies you won't elucidate all of them is not an obligation a human mate with a fairy and give birth to a new hybrid creature, it can give a normal fairy or a human with a strong affinities with magic etc... it is not necessary to be constant. _________________ I can call the snows, and wind, and lightning. The trees may bend to me when I ask. The rivers may flow where I ask them to. But I am granted these things because I ask , with respect in my heart, and I am willing to offer something in return. I request only the barest needs for myself and my people.
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|  | | Oldman40k2003 Moderator


Posts: 142 Join date: 2007-12-09
 | Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:34 am | |
| | gwadahunter2222 wrote: | | So the barrier of the specie seems very thin in Felarya and allow some cases of indiividual born in a particular race and have a parents from a different race or specie. |
That does simplify things somewhat. If the barrier between species is fairly thin, then all females and males of all the species that can interbreed can be considered members of the same species for mating purposes, and so only an imbalance in the male-to-female ratio of this "super species" needs to be explained. IE: If there is a species of almost all females, and a species of almost all males, and those two species have about the same number of members and can (and do) interbreed with each other, then there is no real need for an explanation.
I am sure others have brought this up before, but you would expect a male-to-female imbalance in species that form "prides" or "colonies". For example, if fairies form "prides" (lucky Avlar!) then it wouldn't be at all odd to find a large group of females with only a single male. There are even more extreme examples; almost all ants are female, only a few males are ever born, and they live very short lives, dying after mating. |
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