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Stephiana Tasty morsel
Posts: 7 Join date: 2009-09-28
 | Subject: Problems with Felarya Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:32 pm | |
| Hello there, forgive me if I didn't introduce myself earlier. As you all should know *points to username* That's my name. I came across Felarya by roaming around on deviantArt and I was fascinated with it. However...I still see some problems with it.
- There doesn't seem to be enough herbivores.
- I haven't seen much same size vore, but that's not my main concern with size. The fact that many of the giant predators don't see people as people disturbs me, and conveys a message that midgets (sorry if I insulted anyone) aren't people. The wiki entry of Tinies seems to further emphasize this. .__.
- The enormous number of females makes the whole realm seem sexist, and the slight appearance of males conveys the message that men are nothing better than food.
- Men seem to be the only ones decently clothed.
- How can the giant beings stealthily move around if they're visible to the naked eye about 500+ft away? Anything that large makes at least some noise.
- This is a rather odd one, but it is is possible to hold a space attack. I've always pictured Felarya as either a cylinder or box (due to the fact it's a self contained plane, the side rifts lead back to Felarya while the top ones and bottom ones lead to other places) and with this model, an interdimensional space fleet could attack from the bottom of Felarya, considering how no one's been able to dig their way out of it. No one would see it coming D:
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|  | | Warrior3000 Great warrior


Posts: 442 Join date: 2008-04-27 Age: 13 Location: Somewhere moist...use your imagination.
 | Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:56 pm | |
| Running down that list; 1) Agreed, however, it is a vore oriented world so watcha gonna do? Besides, I do not believe snakes, spiders, and fish aren't all very accustomed to feeding on plants. Some other species may work as Herbivores though. 2)Same size between humans is FORBIDDEN. For obvious reasons. While, amongst, say Nagas, it would be entirely possible, but alot of people seem to be in love with the idea that nagas are all benevolent creatures who would never eat their own kind. Bah. 3) Agreed x 9000 4) Well, people seem to be put off by male bits everywhere, yet exposed breast and vaginas 24/7 = O.K. Again, go figure. 5) Interesting thought. I really don't know what to say to this. 6)???? 7)PROFIT_________________  "We've been to space. The Earth was blue, but there was no god."
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|  | | Sillysausage Seasoned adventurer


Posts: 142 Join date: 2009-07-01 Age: 17 Location: Ausfailia
 | Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:12 am | |
| Have to say, I agree with you on plenty of those points. Still, Felarya is at heart a fetish world aimed at men, hence all the tits and shaved vag, but no ICKY PENISES. (The 3 or so male nagas store them internally, wat.) About the whole 'midgets aren't people' thing, I don't think that's what people are trying to convey... I think it's more 'Powerful people can do whatever they want to the weak with no consequences.' Either way, it's always disturbed me a little. 8C Of course, lots of work is being done, and the world is much more developed than it used to be, with loads of different ideas for plant and animal life and all that. My advice is, if you want stuff to change, have a shot at doing it yourself, we could use someone else. C: |
|  | | Karbo Evil admin


Posts: 1665 Join date: 2007-12-08
 | Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:12 am | |
| Hello, I'm glad you found the universe interesting ^_^ to answer your questions : -About the fauna, I know but you must keep in mind that it's mostly remarkables or dangerous creatures that are listed on the wiki. Much more herbivores exists of course -Well the world function totally differently than our own... it's a bit long to explain.. But basically there IS a logical reason for the high number of females and the fact that so much creatures go and vore others. It has something to do with the origins of Felarya but it hasn't been revelaled yet. -Giant nagas aren't really *that* stealthy. The only one able to move with minimal sound is Crisis. How she manage it remain a mystery. -Figuring the "shape" of Felarya is really a very difficult thing... ( I don't know if I could draw this but this could be an interesting experiment XD ) But I think you are mistaken... As I see it you can travel on the "sides" of the disk ( or whatever form it is, assumng it's a stable one which is not at all that sure) But if you try to go upward or downward, then you exit it and reappear somewhere else... Atually if you dig really very very deep, you would exit Felarya as well, beginning to dig into the ground of another world. | Sillysausage wrote: | | . My advice is, if you want stuff to change, have a shot at doing it yourself, we could use someone else. C: |
I'm not sure this is a very good advice actually.... I mean Felarya is at is, love it or hate it.. I'm personnaly not for changing the world. This forum is more made to suggest things and ideas in order to make the world richer and more coherent rather than trying to *change* it.
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|  | | Moonlight-pendent Temple scourge


Posts: 605 Join date: 2007-12-09 Age: 17 Location: Under your bed
 | Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:14 am | |
| | Warrior3000 wrote: | 2)Same size between humans is FORBIDDEN. For obvious reasons. While, amongst, say Nagas, it would be entirely possible, but alot of people seem to be in love with the idea that nagas are all benevolent creatures who would never eat their own kind. Bah.
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ACTUALLY Ryla same size vores and she's technicaly human. So its not forbidden just veryveryveryveryvery rare. _________________ [/b] Lead me not into temptation, I can find it myself.
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|  | | Anime-Junkie Great warrior


Posts: 427 Join date: 2007-12-17 Age: 16 Location: The Land
 | Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:44 am | |
| | Stephiana wrote: | Hello there, forgive me if I didn't introduce myself earlier. As you all should know *points to username* That's my name. I came across Felarya by roaming around on deviantArt and I was fascinated with it. However...I still see some problems with it.
- There doesn't seem to be enough herbivores.
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Most of the giant predators get their food from the adventurers, explorers and the just plain lost that are transported or travel there. But you're right, there aren't that many. Making an entire ecosystem isn't easy. If you've got any suggestions or ideas for new herbivore races, just post them in the new ideas forum.
| Stephiana wrote: |
- How can the giant beings stealthily move around if they're visible to the naked eye about 500+ft away? Anything that large makes at least some noise.
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Faeries can change size. Most other preds in deep Felaryan jungle with its huge trees they're not really that visible. Centaurs on the great rocky fields just use their speed to catch fleeing prey. _________________
Humans are supposed to be supreme underdogs. They shouldn't have such devices that give them a good chance at survival. - Silent_Eric
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|  | | rcs619 Moderator

Posts: 372 Join date: 2008-04-07 Age: 21 Location: Hanging out with Fiona in the Bulvon Wood
 | Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:51 am | |
| | Anime-Junkie wrote: | | Stephiana wrote: | Hello there, forgive me if I didn't introduce myself earlier. As you all should know *points to username* That's my name. I came across Felarya by roaming around on deviantArt and I was fascinated with it. However...I still see some problems with it.
- There doesn't seem to be enough herbivores.
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Most of the giant predators get their food from the adventurers, explorers and the just plain lost that are transported or travel there. But you're right, there aren't that many. Making an entire ecosystem isn't easy. If you've got any suggestions or ideas for new herbivore races, just post them in the new ideas forum.
| Stephiana wrote: |
- How can the giant beings stealthily move around if they're visible to the naked eye about 500+ft away? Anything that large makes at least some noise.
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Faeries can change size. Most other preds in deep Felaryan jungle with its huge trees they're not really that visible. Centaurs on the great rocky fields just use their speed to catch fleeing prey. |
OKay, it needs to be said that most predators dont have a primarily human diet. There just are not enough humans. They'd eat them when possible, but it wouldnt be their entire diet, which would most likely consist of plants and smaller animals. Crisis is the exception. She ate humans her entire life. She never had to go through the phase all preds go through where they are too big for small game and too small for humans. So, she goes way out of her way to eat humans whenever possible.
Also, like Karbo said, there are herbivores, they just don't get mentioned as much because they aren't as interesting/
As for the stealth, no one ever said that ALL predators were supremely stealthy. Nagas, with Crisis as an extreme example, because they are part snakes. Snakes by nature are extremely quiet, and can creep up very close to prey before they are aware of them. There would be noises, but this is a jungle teeming with life. It would be loud, and smaller sounds would be missed in the ambient noise. As for other races, Pantaurs would probably be nearly as stealthy as nagas, being part cat and all. The rest would vary in their stealthiness._________________ My Stories, Drawings and Stuff: http://rcs619.deviantart.com/> "Go then. There are other worlds than these." - John "Jake" Chambers > "Something strange is going on in this land of magic and giant, topless, flesh-eating animal-women!" ~ GREGOLE |
|  | | Anime-Junkie Great warrior


Posts: 427 Join date: 2007-12-17 Age: 16 Location: The Land
 | Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:01 am | |
| | rcs619 wrote: | OKay, it needs to be said that most predators don't have a primarily human diet. There just are not enough humans. They'd eat them when possible, but it wouldn't be their entire diet, which would most likely consist of plants and smaller animals. Crisis is the exception. She ate humans her entire life. She never had to go through the phase all preds go through where they are too big for small game and too small for humans. So, she goes way out of her way to eat humans whenever possible.
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Really? I thought it was established that there were enough humans to go around. |
|  | | FalconJudge Great warrior

Posts: 503 Join date: 2008-11-08 Age: 18
 | Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:03 am | |
| Stealth for many is probably enhanced with magic. |
|  | | Sillysausage Seasoned adventurer


Posts: 142 Join date: 2009-07-01 Age: 17 Location: Ausfailia
 | Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:37 pm | |
| | Karbo wrote: | I'm not sure this is a very good advice actually.... I mean Felarya is at is, love it or hate it.. I'm personnaly not for changing the world. This forum is more made to suggest things and ideas in order to make the world richer and more coherent rather than trying to *change* it. |
Adding new races, characters and other ideas is changning the world by fleshing it out, which is what I was suggesting they do rather than just list all the things they don't like about it. I wasn't saying they should force their ideas down peoples throats, sorry if it came out that way. |
|  | | Feadraug valiant swordman


Posts: 194 Join date: 2007-12-09 Age: 26 Location: The Forest of Whispers, along with Kyria
 | Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:22 pm | |
| It's true that there are a lot of female characters and that sometimes you can't be that stealthy - but you can, but not as usual as you may think -, but about other things... myself being non-voraphile, I can't stand same-size vore as much as I can different-size one. Sorry. And herbivores... what about omnivores? Some characters are omnivores. I have one omnivore and... oh wait, fairies are actually omnivores. xD Taking in account that Felarya was born as a fetish-esque world created my a male author, these flaws are evident, but in time we can work in them and all. Which reminds me I should work on stories and fleshing out new chars... |
|  | | timing2 Moderator


Posts: 117 Join date: 2009-06-29
 | Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:05 pm | |
| It's been mentioned before, but most Felarya pictures and stories don't speak of or show herbivores. That doesn't mean they aren't present, it's simply that there are far more interesting things to write about or draw. I do mention in at least a couple of my stories that humans are not the staple food in my predators' diets. I simply could not see them surviving on humans alone, unless the predator happened to be near an enormous supply of brainless/clueless humans. Maybe I should write a story about naga’s raising Felaryan cattle for a change?  Predators see smaller creatures in general as potential prey, not just humans. It goes along with the fact that prey is typically swallowed whole and alive, not chewed or ripped to pieces. Tinies, being the smallest of the small, are at the bottom of the food chain for this very reason. It's not that there is a bias against midgets, just that larger creatures see smaller ones as easy targets of opportunity. Karbo has said before there is a reason for the skewed nature of gender prevalent in Felarya. For myself, I prefer writing about female predators, though I have no issue reading or viewing male predator art. For prey, it doesn’t matter – male or female, they all end up in the same place. Men are not the only ones decently clothed, but you have a point. I will say this - I find it humorous that some people complain about "dangling bits" on male nagas (for example), but then won't say a word about female nagas with clearly exposed genitals. Not all giants move stealthily, but remember the Felarya is described as a jungle world. Jungles are far from quiet. There is a great deal of ambient noise that could mask a predator's movements. On top of that, we have the inclusion of magic, which changes everything. Felarya is a magic-rich world, and some giant predators can and do use magic. Who is to say this magic cannot assist them in their hunt by neutralizing their scent, making them more silent, enhancing their senses, and so forth? My only question in regards to the space attack is... why? There are an infinite number of ways the world could conceivably be wiped out by a more powerful army/entity/god/technology, but... why? It's fun stuff to think about I suppose? I'd personally like to see someone running around Felarya with Dr. Who's Demat Gun, but that's neither here nor there. |
|  | | Karbo Evil admin


Posts: 1665 Join date: 2007-12-08
 | Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:21 pm | |
| There is something that really need to be clarified once and for all I think : the fact that giant predators don't have a diet comprised of 100% humans or sentients beings. ^^; Even a voracious one such as Crisis will have no problems to devour animals if their hunt go poorly.. |
|  | | Reptillian Felarya cartographer


Posts: 1464 Join date: 2008-10-24 Age: 18 Location: Denmark, Europe.
 | Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:00 pm | |
| | Karbo wrote: | There is something that really need to be clarified once and for all I think : the fact that giant predators don't have a diet comprised of 100% humans or sentients beings. ^^; Even a voracious one such as Crisis will have no problems to devour animals if their hunt go poorly.. |
yeah, i faintly remember that she likes mudkips XD |
|  | | /Fish/ Survivor


Posts: 906 Join date: 2008-05-05 Age: 18 Location: The Stream of Consciousness
 | Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:09 pm | |
| | Stephiana wrote: | Hello there, forgive me if I didn't introduce myself earlier. As you all should know *points to username* That's my name. I came across Felarya by roaming around on deviantArt and I was fascinated with it. However...I still see some problems with it.
- There doesn't seem to be enough herbivores.
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As addressed by others, the herbivores are plentiful, but ignored for the most part. Such common creatures are duiker, mumansis, noghdongs, etc. We even have a herbivore race, the Lemurians.
| Quote: | | I haven't seen much same size vore, but that's not my main concern with size. The fact that many of the giant predators don't see people as people disturbs me, and conveys a message that midgets (sorry if I insulted anyone) aren't people. The wiki entry of Tinies seems to further emphasize this. .__. |
If you are able to eat it, and you don't have a particular reason for not eating it, you tend to go with your instincts and down whatever it is. Especially if you are mentally geared towards it because you are a natural predator, as the majority of races are perfectly adapted to be. Seeing potential prey as a person which should not be eaten, does not benefit the predator. Some predators can eat beings of similar size whole, such as chlaena, slimoids, abyssal merfolk and nagas. Dridders can have no qualms about wrapping someone of similar size up to make into soup later, and others may not make a great distinction of size and prey. Midgits aren't singled out, giants have the same problems.
| Quote: | | Men seem to be the only ones decently clothed. |
Depending on climate and race, clothing may be a necessity, a hobby, or a fascination. Among the giant races that live in warmer climates, clothing often doesn't do them a great deal of good if they don't actually need it. It tends to deteriorate quickly in the jungle, especially. I've seen some giant females wear clothing, such as Fiona and I believe some of Ravana's giantesses, while my own giant male, Monty, does not.
| Quote: | | How can the giant beings stealthily move around if they're visible to the naked eye about 500+ft away? Anything that large makes at least some noise. |
Huge environmental factors, such as trees which are immense at even a giant scale, thick vegetation, and general murmur of the surrounding life can severely limit one's senses of sight and sound. A neko can sneak up on a neera, and a giant can sneak up on the neko easily by taking advantage of their environment. As previously mentioned, centaurs can carry themselves so quickly across the plains, that very little can escape from them out in the open. Others wait in hiding for prey to come along, such as dryads and dridders. Harpies and sphinxes can swoop down from the sky, not letting you have a chance to run for cover. Slug-girls, well they get you stuck. <<
| Quote: | This is a rather odd one, but it is is possible to hold a space attack. I've always pictured Felarya as either a cylinder or box (due to the fact it's a self contained plane, the side rifts lead back to Felarya while the top ones and bottom ones lead to other places) and with this model, an interdimensional space fleet could attack from the bottom of Felarya, considering how no one's been able to dig their way out of it. No one would see it coming D:
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No, the way Felarya interacts with things outside its dimension, attacking it from space isn't possible except for a ridiculously small chance of an attack entering from a random place in the universe (If I remember what was stated in the Felarya Physics thread correctly). As far as I recall, it's been that Felarya may use a sun for light, but from that sun you could not see Felarya, it being more like a one-way window to anything above its sky. As such, you could leave Felarya into space, and find that it is nowhere around and you can't return to it. |
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