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PostSubject: Re: That's it   Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:38 am

Still Casey.

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There is no doubt in my opinion that Karbo has the last say in what goes on in Felarya. After all, its his creation.


This is working my very last nerve.


NO ONE is trying to take Felarya from anyone. That is not what this argument is about.

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PostSubject: Re: That's it   Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:48 am

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Still Casey.

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There is no doubt in my opinion that Karbo has the last say in what goes on in Felarya. After all, its his creation.


This is working my very last nerve.


NO ONE is trying to take Felarya from anyone. That is not what this argument is about.


Actually, I wasn't referring to the whole "taking Felarya to claim" issue. I was just saying is that he decides who contributes and who doesn't.

As I said, I have no place to judge or criticize those banned. Its not my place, but I am disheartened that it has come to this, and I understand those among us who feel upset for their friends, and their banning.

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PostSubject: Weird topic...   Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:09 am

i really don't know if this topic is about Felarya Ownership or whether Felarya will stay alive.....i have no doubt about it lasting...but i have no clue about the banning.... can't say i ever knew those who were banned so im just going to say 3 people out of what was once 512 people isn't a very big percentage at all...
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PostSubject: Re: That's it   Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:13 am

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i really don't know if this topic is about Felarya Ownership or whether Felarya will stay alive.....i have no doubt about it lasting...but i have no clue about the banning.... can't say i ever knew those who were banned so im just going to say 3 people out of what was once 512 people isn't a very big percentage at all...
besides the fact that 400 of those people areunactive or abandoned accounts and that only 10-20 people ((give or take)) are the ones that really try to contribute and such.

Also this is Terra

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PostSubject: ohh...   Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:14 am

that i did not know!
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PostSubject: Re: That's it   Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:20 am

well congratulations to you for pulling me out of lurking to comment here. Now I've been lurking for a while, I read posts, chat logs and chill on vent a lot, and from my observations, I feel that what happened with Casey was a tad wrong, I feel that in multiple cases he may have been forced into a fight by some instigators, some who decide to throw parades now that they "won" by them. I don't know what the contents of the notes you have recieved are, so I won't comment on those, but Karbo as a person who's really just been starting to make Felarya stuff after lurking and only posting comments for so long, I feel entitled to my opinion here. I wanna say take some time to think about this, I know you spent a lot of time thinking before making your decision, but I suggest you put some deep thought into this and decide if you made the right decision later, but I won't hold it against you if you keep your main decision, I'll still think it's the wrong choice, but I'll let you keep your right to say it.
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PostSubject: Re: That's it   Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:46 am

Moonlight-pendent wrote:
Still Casey.

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There is no doubt in my opinion that Karbo has the last say in what goes on in Felarya. After all, its his creation.


This is working my very last nerve.


NO ONE is trying to take Felarya from anyone. That is not what this argument is about.

Yes it is. Er, yes it was. I can of course direct you to the "surrendering sovereignty to Karbo" remark.

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PostSubject: Re: That's it   Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:51 am

Casey

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Yes it is. Er, yes it was. I can of course direct you to the "surrendering sovereignty to Karbo" remark.

I made it. I think I know what it's about.

And given that that remark of mine was in FAVOR of surrendering sovereignty to him, I don't think you have much of a case.


I cannot stress this enough folks: DON'T GET INTO ARGUMENTS OF WHICH YOU ARE NOT INFORMED.

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PostSubject: Re: That's it   Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:39 am

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DON'T GET INTO ARGUMENTS OF WHICH YOU ARE NOT INFORMED.


Unpossible.

Going in unprepared is half the fun I hear.

Anyway, since I haven't been on these forums very long, I trust things will work themselves out. Eventually.
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PostSubject: Re: That's it   Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:49 am

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Casey

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Yes it is. Er, yes it was. I can of course direct you to the "surrendering sovereignty to Karbo" remark.

I made it. I think I know what it's about.

And given that that remark of mine was in FAVOR of surrendering sovereignty to him, I don't think you have much of a case.


I cannot stress this enough folks: DON'T GET INTO ARGUMENTS OF WHICH YOU ARE NOT INFORMED.

Ooh, I love all that grandstanding. It makes it even funnier when I show you that you're wrong.

http://felarya.forumotion.com/general-discussion-f1/clarifications-t1571.htm

"You want to maintain ownership? Well, most of the community seems to agree, so that's not a huge problem. I personally think it's slightly unfair, but the bulk of the community seems willing to surrender sovereignty to you, so there's not really a problem with that. Actually, things tend to get done a lot better when no one fights over who receives credit. If everyone agrees to this, then we don't have a problem there."

This was posted by Gregole, not you.

Or are you Gregole?

In any case, Gregole was disparaging the idea of "surrender sovereignty to Karbo".

Documented fact. You abused the capslock key in vain. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: That's it   Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:58 am

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Moonlight-pendent wrote:
Casey

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Yes it is. Er, yes it was. I can of course direct you to the "surrendering sovereignty to Karbo" remark.

I made it. I think I know what it's about.

And given that that remark of mine was in FAVOR of surrendering sovereignty to him, I don't think you have much of a case.


I cannot stress this enough folks: DON'T GET INTO ARGUMENTS OF WHICH YOU ARE NOT INFORMED.

Ooh, I love all that grandstanding. It makes it even funnier when I show you that you're wrong.

http://felarya.forumotion.com/general-discussion-f1/clarifications-t1571.htm

"You want to maintain ownership? Well, most of the community seems to agree, so that's not a huge problem. I personally think it's slightly unfair, but the bulk of the community seems willing to surrender sovereignty to you, so there's not really a problem with that. Actually, things tend to get done a lot better when no one fights over who receives credit. If everyone agrees to this, then we don't have a problem there."

This was posted by Gregole, not you.

Or are you Gregole?

In any case, Gregole was disparaging the idea of "surrender sovereignty to Karbo".

Documented fact. You abused the capslock key in vain. Smile


Alright Casey went to bed this is Terra again on her own name lol.

What Casey meant, possibly misworded causeI'm too tired to remember what most words over 3 syibols mean.Today was exhasing and saddening. And you're not helping.

Let me try to reword what Casey meant. He thinks it IS a good idea for Karbo to be sole owner. Just for him to make sure not to forget everyone else who works hard for felarya, give us some real encouragement, feedback. Not much but just something to show that our work means something.

I'm tired as hell so for all I know that didnt come out right I hope it did but eh I tried, you probably won't even listen so why am I bothering?

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PostSubject: it came out right.   Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:43 am

it came out right.
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PostSubject: Re: That's it   Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:28 am

I'm sticking with felarya all the way.

I'm gonna keep writing my story and (hopefully) improve a lot.

A some point i might start trying to draw and get better at that too^^ i outright suck balls right now T_T'

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PostSubject: well   Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:33 am

im with you about my art
and i can't wait for your stories!
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PostSubject: Re: That's it   Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:35 am

Alright, after going over the thread, I think I might be able to see the misunderstanding.

Gregole said he wanted to make sure Karbo acknowledged everyone who helped contribute to Felarya.

Meanwhile, Karbo wanted to make sure that nobody was going to try and claim Felarya or it's ideas as their own, since it was clear that ideas that become a part of Felarya are given to Karbo and that gives him the right to let them live in Felarya, which is something I'm sure everyone agreed to.

Somewhere along the line I think you guys may have misunderstood eachother. So let's try and sort that out, shall we? Let's not put words in anyone's mouths.

The middleground I think everyone wants is for Karbo to be the one who makes all the decisions, but that everyone knows of the people who contributed and acknowledged, since this world was a multi faceted effort. Consider it like a charity. The money isn't really theirs anymore, as it now belongs to the fundraiser. However, the people who wish to be recognized should be given a chance to be recognized. This seems fair, no?

I also believe there was a part about cyber bullying newer people on the forums. In my honest opinion, I feel gregole, L'Ryn and Silly had the right idea to make sure nobody tried putting their uberpowered DBZ godmod mary sues all over the place. However, I've seen what they do, and I think it was a little extreme. I don't know if it was ban worthy, but I think they could've toned it down. Maybe they could be given another chance, but that's entirely up to you Karbo. Also, I feel someone else was in play here. Perhaps a troll who wanted to cause trouble. I'd look into that.

I'm probably missing several other parts of this complicated issue, but right now this is all I know. I'm sorry if someone has been misrepresented here or if I "don't get the point", but I'm trying to help. Please do not be angry. I feel great pain when I see such a good community being split.

I am eager to know your opinions on this.
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