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Silent_eric Great warrior


Posts: 458 Join date: 2008-02-18 Age: 19 Location: Location Location
 | Subject: Neko Tribes, Communities, and Variations Sat Jul 25, 2009 3:57 pm | |
| If you take a look at the wiki, you'll notice that there are eight different human groups that have been defined. Now look at the neko page. Four. Four neko tribes. And two of them have been destroyed! What's with that? And so, having become Felarya's resident botanist instead of anything cool, I've set my sights on correcting this problem next. We need more neko tribes. Hell, we could even do with a few neko cities, who says humans have to always be advanced, and nekos primitive? So, if any of you have any neko tribe ideas, or if you've written about some interesting nekos, this is the thread for them. _________________ This Week's Climax! November 3rd, 2009
Forgotten already. It's a Brand New Day, and the Sun is high. All the Fairies sing, that you're gonna die!
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|  | | Silent_eric Great warrior


Posts: 458 Join date: 2008-02-18 Age: 19 Location: Location Location
 | Subject: Re: Neko Tribes, Communities, and Variations Sat Jul 25, 2009 4:24 pm | |
| Here are the basics for the first neko tribe I thought of, other than Rosic Nekos of course. A cheetah themed tribe known as: Vite Tribe In the Great Rocky Fields, this neko tribe thrives on a nomadic lifestyle. They create homes out of the greenish blue grasses that grow there, making their huts easy to assemble and disassemble quickly. It also gives them a slight protection, as their homes blend in with the grass, protecting them from the zone's many types of flying predators. These nekos hold physical prowess above anything else, and so they regularly train their bodies to survive the harsh conditions the Rocky Fields throw at them. The Vite Tribe emphasizes speed, and they love to race each other more than anything else however. The fur on a Vite's tail and ears are spotted, and they typically look lean and edgy. The Vite nekos dislike being in one place for any amount of time, a major factor in their nomadic nature. For many of the nekos, even moving their homes every couple of days isn't enough, and the leave the tribe to wander aimlessly in Felarya. Many of these nekos become couriers, selling their speed and racing from village to village to deliver messages, news, and warnings. Many a tribe has been saved from a predator's stomach, from the timely arrival of a Vite neko with a friendly warning. Negav has several of these nekos in it's employ, and they are a common sight, racing through the streets to deliver a message. Of course, some of the nekos who leave the tribe end up running straight down a predator's throat, so to speak. And some rare ones just wander Felarya aimlessly for as long as they live. If you could ever get one of these nekos to sit still long enough to talk to you, who knows what they'd be able to reveal from their travels. _________________ This Week's Climax! November 3rd, 2009
Forgotten already. It's a Brand New Day, and the Sun is high. All the Fairies sing, that you're gonna die!
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|  | | Karbo Evil admin


Posts: 1658 Join date: 2007-12-08
 | Subject: Re: Neko Tribes, Communities, and Variations Sat Jul 25, 2009 4:38 pm | |
| Cheetah nekos... that's an excellent idea !! It makes sense and it is well though off. I love it ^_^ You really have a great imagination when it comes to ideas and concept, the plant section of the wiki is a testament to that XD I am just moving this thread in the neko section ^^ |
|  | | /Fish/ Survivor


Posts: 906 Join date: 2008-05-05 Age: 18 Location: The Stream of Consciousness
 | Subject: Re: Neko Tribes, Communities, and Variations Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:21 pm | |
| Had a bit of a disagreement with eric on the concept of cheetah nekos, well here's my view on it. I'm more going on sub-species of nekos, since... Well it makes more sense to me if you're going to be using the cheetah basis in a manner that makes sense. >> Citas Citas are well-adapted plains-nekos concentrated in several widespread nomadic tribes. Physically they have very slender and toned bodies, the legs of a cat, paw-like hands, semi-retractable claws, and long muscular tails. They also usually have spotted fur and skin, with black teardrop-like markings beneath their eyes. Citas are renowned for their superior dashing speed and run on all fours. Their main natural prey is plains duiker but they do enjoy bite-sized prey when they can get it. Citas can indeed run very fast- going all-out in a straight line some can achieve speeds on par with a Razia! However, they are not build for prolonged running at such speeds, and must stop to rest often between bursts. Their speed comes in handy as prey themselves- if a galloping centaur threatens them, they will scatter at high speed and attempt to out-maneuver the predator. Out of their native plainslands... Citas tend not to do well. Their natural jittery-ness has been known to get them into trouble by running instead of hiding, and the forest takes away an advantage of speed. They also tend to go after some larger prey that they likely shouldn't in the forest, which can lead to encounters with larger predators after the same prey. If they sprint off in an area they aren't familiar with, a local predator might only need to track them down until they tire. Citas are relatively rare nekos, and most that are known of work as couriers. |
|  | | L'Ryn Temple scourge


Posts: 676 Join date: 2008-09-13
 | Subject: Re: Neko Tribes, Communities, and Variations Sat Jul 25, 2009 6:47 pm | |
| I agree with Fish's idea. Eric, honestly... yours kind of sucks. It sounds like they're just an entire bunch hyped up on speed and caffeine. Fish's, to me, makes more sense. Anyway, human like limbs would crumble under the strain of running anywhere above twenty six miles per hour, they're simply not built to take that much damage considering how they at put together. |
|  | | Karbo Evil admin


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Posts: 676 Join date: 2008-09-13
 | Subject: Re: Neko Tribes, Communities, and Variations Sat Jul 25, 2009 7:10 pm | |
| | Karbo wrote: | | /Fish/ wrote: | Had a bit of a disagreement with eric on the concept of cheetah nekos, well here's my view on it.
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well that's a nice take on it. I especially like how you challenged their ability in a forest environement 
| Quote: | | Eric, honestly... yours kind of sucks. | that' wasn't very constructive>> |
And yet I continued on to explain how running with human legs wouldn't work and how their culture is rather lacking in reason beyond that. See, I can be constructive. 8D |
|  | | Karbo Evil admin


Posts: 1658 Join date: 2007-12-08
 | Subject: Re: Neko Tribes, Communities, and Variations Sat Jul 25, 2009 7:42 pm | |
| Well I meant not very constructive in the sense that it's not a good way to keep a discussion pleaseant and civil. Sure you had a point but I am not sure telling Eric that his idea "sucked" was a great way to make it  |
|  | | Silent_eric Great warrior


Posts: 458 Join date: 2008-02-18 Age: 19 Location: Location Location
 | Subject: Re: Neko Tribes, Communities, and Variations Sat Jul 25, 2009 9:46 pm | |
| Hey hey hey you two. Just because this thread is about nekos, doesn't mean you get to have a catfight. Now let's see here. Like I said before Fish, the neko subspecies idea is fine. It's good. It's well thought out and logical. Believe it or not, I did take what you said into account. Notice the grass hut camouflage idea. It takes away from the original theme of 'cheetah' but that's just where the idea came from. I agree that your Citas is a much better cheetah. And L'Ryn. Although I wouldn't say my idea sucks, I will admit to having written it up in about ten or twenty minutes. It's a first draft, which is how I write ideas. I just chain together my ideas and write them as soon as I think of them. So of course it won't be golden. All that aside, let's see, you say they sound like a bunch of caffeine junkies. I humbly disagree and point out that such an analogy would fit Fish's idea better, as his have a sudden burst of speed, followed by a crash, just like you get from caffeine. His have a natural jitteryness. Mine don't do that. They simply like to run. They are competitive, and nomadic. But I don't want to compare them. They are literally different species. As for what you said about 'Human limbs crumbling under the strain of running above twenty six miles per hour... Not built for that much damage.' Well, where do I say they run above twenty six miles per hour. Where do I say they have super speed? Where do I say they even try to make their survival by running from preds? I already switched to camouflage after talking to Fish on this subject. The Vite tribe enjoys running. It's their pastime. The same way we on Earth race each other, they do the same. You can run with human legs. It happens all the time. Not at the speed a centaur runs, or a harpy flies, or even a Citas runs, but they can still run just fine. They race each other, not preds. Now, you said you explained how their culture is rather lacking in reason. I...'m afraid I don't see what you mean. I do admit I didn't put altogether too much into their culture, other than their competitive nature and love of speed. Can you be bothered to clarify please? _________________ This Week's Climax! November 3rd, 2009
Forgotten already. It's a Brand New Day, and the Sun is high. All the Fairies sing, that you're gonna die!
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|  | | L'Ryn Temple scourge


Posts: 676 Join date: 2008-09-13
 | Subject: Re: Neko Tribes, Communities, and Variations Sat Jul 25, 2009 10:14 pm | |
| They sound like a bunch of hyper kittens on speed. What I see in this is it seems like you just wanted to make another cute nekomimi. Except with spots. Do cat like legs scare you that much or something? Also, the fact you are speaking like that tells me you are getting over worked up about me disliking your idea which is honestly rather immature. Please consider the fact your creation is hardly unique. All they have is a semi-built culture... and spots. This hardly makes them any different from the other nekos. How do you know one of the destroyed tribes wasn't like this? All I'm saying is it lacks anything which makes me say 'ah, there's a unique creation'. Once more; nekos on speed with spots. |
|  | | Silent_eric Great warrior


Posts: 458 Join date: 2008-02-18 Age: 19 Location: Location Location
 | Subject: Re: Neko Tribes, Communities, and Variations Sat Jul 25, 2009 10:40 pm | |
| Well drat. I had thought I was being fair minded and such. Maybe I don't take criticism as well as I'd like to. I do sound rather catty I suppose (No pun intended). Honestly, I don't care for muscular girls that much, so this race really isn't wish fufillment. And when did I say anything about not liking cat like legs? I think you must have been talking with Fish about what I was talking to Fish about. And so you've come with a predisposition to my idea. But that's fine, nothing I can do about that. Yes. All they have is a half built culture, and a slight fur change. That's the only difference. And that's intentional. It's a different tribe of the same species. What's the difference between the Rosic nekos and Scorching claw nekos? What's the difference between an Akaraptor Nomad and a Deluran? They are both still nekos and humans respectively. They aren't a different species, so they aren't that different. Fish's idea is radically different from the neko norm, because it's literally a different species. We both took the same basic concept and took it very different places. And that is fine. Felarya's a big place. His citas can go perfectly well in the Ivokan Savanna. Just as mine can go in the Great Rocky Plains. I honestly hope his idea gets into the wiki as well. It's a good idea. And there's no reason why they can't both exist. _________________ This Week's Climax! November 3rd, 2009
Forgotten already. It's a Brand New Day, and the Sun is high. All the Fairies sing, that you're gonna die!
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|  | | L'Ryn Temple scourge


Posts: 676 Join date: 2008-09-13
 | Subject: Re: Neko Tribes, Communities, and Variations Sat Jul 25, 2009 10:49 pm | |
| Ah yes, well, I am predisposed to dislike ideas that basically are just a paintjob and some bad lipstick. |
|  | | gwadahunter2222 Hero


Posts: 1381 Join date: 2007-12-08 Age: 26
 | Subject: Re: Neko Tribes, Communities, and Variations Sat Jul 25, 2009 10:59 pm | |
| | Silent_eric wrote: | | I do admit I didn't put altogether too much into their culture, other than their competitive nature and love of speed. Can you be bothered to clarify please? |
The problem come here, how do you want a race who likes speed and competition which require to be always at 100% and more will perform long effort on long period without to be bored or get exhausted before they reach the end. It's like asking a sprinter to participate to a marathon.
It's obvious this, race is more voracious than the other nekos due to their incredible speed which require many energy. It's obvious they have weaker constitution contrary to an average neko, it's will be hard for them to carry things when they travel. It's obvious they are less endurance than the other race of nekos. Due to their love of speed they will get bored easily when they perform repetitive actions.
To be nomadic, require to be patient, calm, endurance, travel with heavy charge, and to be able to perform the same actions during on a long period.
And other details, the felines can be strong, agile or powerful but they get exhausted quickly and unable to maintain a constant effort on long period. It's clear when I see their behaviours it's more similar to a canidae hybrid creature than a feline creature. _________________ I can call the snows, and wind, and lightning. The trees may bend to me when I ask. The rivers may flow where I ask them to. But I am granted these things because I ask , with respect in my heart, and I am willing to offer something in return. I request only the barest needs for myself and my people.
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|  | | Silent_eric Great warrior


Posts: 458 Join date: 2008-02-18 Age: 19 Location: Location Location
 | Subject: Re: Neko Tribes, Communities, and Variations Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:17 pm | |
| Those are some good ideas Gwada. Just one thing though, they don't really have incredible speed. Their speed compared to a normal neko is the same as an Olympian runner compared to a normal human. They just run a lot and so are a bit faster than most nekos. The idea of them being more voracious because of their more physical lifestyle. That could very well be true. It's not a bad thought. But seeing as their homes are simply woven grass, it's very likely they lead a minimalistic lifestyle. So they don't need to carry great loads of things. Their endurance isn't much of an issue. Every week or so, they just up and abandon their homes and travel to a new spot, virtually identical in the barren Rocky Plains, and build new homes. And I don't see why it takes patient to be nomadic. If the entire tribe has an intense wanderlust, it would only make sense that they'd be nomadic. Not to mention, staying in one area would be detrimental to their health in a plains area filled with predators. _________________ This Week's Climax! November 3rd, 2009
Forgotten already. It's a Brand New Day, and the Sun is high. All the Fairies sing, that you're gonna die!
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|  | | gwadahunter2222 Hero


Posts: 1381 Join date: 2007-12-08 Age: 26
 | Subject: Re: Neko Tribes, Communities, and Variations Sun Jul 26, 2009 12:23 am | |
| | Silent_eric wrote: | But seeing as their homes are simply woven grass, it's very likely they lead a minimalistic lifestyle. So they don't need to carry great loads of things. Their endurance isn't much of an issue. Every week or so, they just up and abandon their homes and travel to a new spot, virtually identical in the barren Rocky Plains, and build new homes.
And I don't see why it takes patient to be nomadic. If the entire tribe has an intense wanderlust, it would only make sense that they'd be nomadic. Not to mention, staying in one area would be detrimental to their health in a plains area filled with predators. |
There is a huge difference between to be nomadic and to be a wanderer. The nomads travel with important reserve of foods and waters because the travel are generally long and can last many days, weeks or months before you reach your destination, in this kind of situation strenght and endurance are more important than speed and acceleration which are the good way to waste your energy and consume quickly your resources. The journey are knowns in advance and are rarely or never changed. They start to same point and reach the same points without changing path to avoid to waste the resource.
A wanderer has no precise path, destination, or goal, he travels with few resources and without any kind of preparations or organizations. The travels are spontaneous without any preparations or organisation are generally short due to the lack of resource.
A nomad is very patient because he knows everything about his travel he can last many days or months and prepare himself in consequence. A wanderer travel with few things and finds his foods randomly. In a place like the Great Rocky Field where the resource are limited if you travel light you are dead.
A nomads carries his home with him during his travel contrary to wanderer who is homeless. _________________ I can call the snows, and wind, and lightning. The trees may bend to me when I ask. The rivers may flow where I ask them to. But I am granted these things because I ask , with respect in my heart, and I am willing to offer something in return. I request only the barest needs for myself and my people.
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