My view on fairies

Subject: My view on fairies Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:09 am

Recently, I noticed that many makes the mistake of fairies being able to shrink something 80' tall to merely 3". The thing is that the wiki clearly states that if the target is initially too big, or has strong magic resistance, it won't work.

Another misconception I noticed is that people thinks that when a fairy grows bigger, so is their magic. If it was true, logically, they'd be able to grow indefinitely as their magic increases with size. And if it was true, then they would be the actual dominant specie and have eaten every other species by this point.

So I was just wondering, did anybody read that entry in the wiki? Also, I think that there abilities at size-shifting is not entirely magical, about self size-shifting at least.

In my opinion, their ability to alter their own size isn't really magic, not entirely, but more of a specie's innate skill. It runs on mana, or their magic energy or something, but it's not affected by initial size or magic resistance, but more on their genes, thus why their size ranging varies on the individual.

As for targetting someone, it's purely on magic. And it's affected by magic resistance and initial size. Thus it's trickier for them to shrink someone else, and why most giants are unaffected under normal conditions.

The fact that when a fairy size-shift itself and it becomes her new normal size implies that it's more than just magic, as if it was, then it would also applies on targets. Or maybe fairies have a particular metabolism that makes them easily affected by size-shifting.

NOTE: Yes I know I've been rambling on not caring about the lack of language barrier and I'm aware of the irony of me trying to explain something in Felarya with actual logic. But that common mistake was really bugging me and I just want to correct that.

Subject: Re: My view on fairies Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:25 am

I like most of what you say here - it does make sense.
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It's an interesting point of view
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Subject: Re: My view on fairies Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:37 am

Well, first, we'd have to address why the size-change occurs. My theory is actually an expansion of molecular structure due to the addition of "cloned atoms", or atoms created by energy (yes, it would require quite a bit of energy according to e=mc^2), to grow. Shrinking would be the opposite: the removal of redundant atoms from a structure that are only there for size, and leaving less, down to the minimal number of atoms required for the structure to retain its identity.

This, however, runs into a problem... which would be that the shrinking would actually be a reaction which gives off energy, rather than absorbing it...
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Subject: Re: My view on fairies Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:09 am

Well, first of all, we have to address how they do it. Here's my personal theory.

An eighty foot high human can't exist. Period. Prettymuch every bodily function imaginable would collapse and/or fail.

My theory is that fairies play on the dimensional instability of Felarya. They literally alter the laws of physics around their own body in a skintight aura that dictates that anything within that aura behaves exactly as it does at a normal human size, but is huge in relation to its surroundings.

In other words, they increase their size relative to their surroundings, but tap into some sort of dimensional frequency that dictates that they're still human sized, even if they no longer are.

It's VERY difficult to put into words, but... I dunno, am I getting this through properly?
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Subject: Re: My view on fairies Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:17 pm

Subject: Re: My view on fairies Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:50 pm

You have a very good point there, Sean. I agree that fairies would be a broken race if people made such inconsistencies with their powers.

Though I always did have a solution for how they were able to shrink and grow people;

Magic!
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I think the problem it's not how they alter their size and shrink people, we can developp many interesting theories about that. I know science and magic share a common point which is the fact everything require some conditions in order to work correctly. In clear a fairy can not change the size of someone as she change her own size.
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Subject: Re: My view on fairies Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:03 pm

What we need is more definition on fairies in the wiki. We know they're skilled in size-changing magic and and are born with the ability to alter their own size. However, they enjoy shrinking people. So, in theory, could fairies also enlarge people if they wanted? Seeing as how the victim would have to be enlarged inside their stomach if a fairy were to become human sized, shrink a human, eat them, then become giant again, it makes sense that they could indeed increase the size of others, even though nothing's mentioned on it in the wiki.

Another issue is what exactly counts as "too big"? At what point can a fairy not shrink a victim/opponent?
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Very interesting issues raised here ^_^

I never thought about the size-changing being a sort of dimensional magic but this is a great idea ! Smile

Fairies also have the ability to enlarge other creatures but past a point it become difficult. For the same reasons that they can't shrink a too large target.
It also must be mentionned that fairies don't possess more magic by being big than by being small.

Subject: Re: My view on fairies Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:27 am

Well, of course a fairy's system must be different from a human's, to allow for easier size-changes. Dimensional warp is actually a very plausible idea, as well. It certainly fits. (Get the pun? We're talking about size... come on: "fits".)

But the concept of fairies having limits to this could play into my idea: past a certain point, the structure becomes unstable, when shrinking or growing.
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Subject: Re: My view on fairies Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:41 am

The only real problems I find are conservation of mass (Which, while easy enough to explain in shrinking [Vaporization?], doesn't work so well in growth), and what happens with the now inefficient blood cells.
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Subject: Re: My view on fairies Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:29 pm

Well, according to e=mc^2, mass can be converted into energy, and vice-versa.

So, conservation of energy and mass aren't really a problem, since the two can be interchanged. Hmmm, perhaps a better idea would be the shrinking/growth of cells, which could be added onto my idea of atomic replication... I mean, it's not entirely a sound argument, but then again, I doubt we'll ever get one. As long as it's close enough, it'll count as psuedo-science.
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Subject: Re: My view on fairies Sat Jun 21, 2008 1:33 am

hurray for sudo-science. i tend to think of it as a dimensional magic as well... though to be honest i haven't given this one as much thought as others. the question about fairies that still gets me though is the natural born size of a fairy. i tend to think of it as variable, but then the equation of a fairy's ability to shrink large opponents becomes variable!

ie, a fairy born at a small size, say 5 in, would only be able to shrink something the size of a human; despite however big they make them selves (though interestingly i think their ability to grow is proportional to age so there might be some comical moments where she cant grow big enough to eat them XD )

where as a fairy born human size would be able to shrink anything up to 50ft tall (long) not near crisis size but getting most of the mid level preds and preys (think kensha snakes XD).

thus bringing us too my theory that Nemyra was born a giant.... >.> but that's a theory for latter.

regaurdleess ita s bit vauge but as i understand it the vast majority of fairies live in a small state.... perhaps indicating that that's the natural size..... i am thinking out loud now as a sort of question to Karbo ^^;
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Subject: Re: My view on fairies Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:58 am

Well, as to that, wouldn't it make more sense that a mother fairy would have to become a certain size during the development/birth of the child? A possible weakness during pregnancy, perhaps...

I think some fairies are more powerful than others based on sheer ability, just like some humans are smarter or faster or stronger. However, as we know, ability can be surpassed by hard work and effort... so perhaps a fairy who has perfected the art, or has discovered new methods of amplifying the power could bring the size-changing skill to a whole new level.
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