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Posts: 1381 Join date: 2007-12-08 Age: 26
 | Subject: Re: Genki Naga Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:59 pm | |
| And another reason due to the fact they can not be vegetarian. It's due to their ability to manipulate life force, in this concept any living matter has a life force but in different level. It's the force which maintain the body, when the life force decrease the creatur become sick or die. For the case of the genki naga they have important amount of life force but when they use it,it's double edge sword, they are more powerfull but after they are more exhausted than a normal naga and they are more voracious. The life force is a energy and the problem and energy can not be created but converted from another energy. You can find find more life force in meat than in the plant, because the plant are eaten by the herbivore, so they have in addition of it's own life force the life force of the plant they eat. They can pretend to be vegetarian or drain directly of the plant but if they are very powerful they are more dangerous from the other living being. To maintain a good level of life force with plant they will need to eat more than a normal herbivore, it can be a disaster for the other living being because due to the fact they live longer and don't have natural predators, they have an important amount of life but at the price of the other herbivore who are hunted by the carnivore. They can pretend it's a sin to kill another living form but their life is a greatest sin because they destroy food chain. It's the reason why the nature kill the diplodocus and why Africa there are few vegetations but there are biggest herbivore. The main rules in life force manipulation the more you have the more powerful you are,that's why the genki dama is the more powerful attack in DBZ because it take the life force of all the living being. The flaws of this technique has been shown in the arc with Majin Boo, when the humans gave their life force they were very exhausted if they gave more they would die. In general the more powerful life force user have a short life span because each time you use it you shorten your life but you can increase it by draining the life force of other living being. That's why the saiyans eats a lot,to eat it's the easier way to recover your life force.  You can drain it from other being but it's not without consequence. The system of life force it's like The force in Star Wars, it's allow many possibilities but if you abuse too much it can be dangerous. PS:if you quote the namek to explain why they are all vegetarian I will answer namek are an alien race whohas a metabolism similar to the plant so they don't have the need to eat meat. But if you fully based on that the genki naga have a affinity with the nature element  _________________ I can call the snows, and wind, and lightning. The trees may bend to me when I ask. The rivers may flow where I ask them to. But I am granted these things because I ask , with respect in my heart, and I am willing to offer something in return. I request only the barest needs for myself and my people.
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Posts: 1033 Join date: 2008-08-01 Age: 20 Location: Wandering around Felarya
 | Subject: Re: Genki Naga Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:16 pm | |
| | Quote: | // HOME Spirit Naga's are not native to Felarya, with only one ever appearing in Felarya in known history. Their home, called Ha'mara, is much different to Felarya in several respects. All races peacfully co-exist with each other, with the alliance between the Humans, Fairies & Spirit Naga's being the strongest relationship. Violence is virtually non-existant and no inhabitant eats any meat unless it is already dead at the time. Eating a living thing is considered the highest of all sins. They often mix with the other races from their world, as in they have many friends from many species. As for the name, Ha'mara is the name a Bajoran religious festival to celebrate the arrival of the Emissary.
// DIET They all are believed vegetarian because they are virtually never seen eating a living person. Spirit Naga's would consider eating anything living a sin and would only eat meat if it was already dead. |
Edited, read the bold parts.
| Quote: | | PS:if you quote the namek to explain why they are all vegetarian I will answer namek are an alien race whohas a metabolism similar to the plant so they don't have the need to eat meat. |
They have it good, only needing water to survive.
I have edited several of the sections of the profile, hopefully they will be a bit better now. Reckon their ready to be a race or can anyone find more points that need looking at?
I based my Naga characters profile off my Saiyans (from several sites), then the race off of him.
Thanks for the help, by the way. _________________ Name: Ha'dara - Species: Genki Naga Age: 190 - Gender: Male Element: Ki energy - Height: - 100 foot Diet: Fruit, vegetables, animals Hair: Gold & spiked - Scales: Gold/Orange Eyes: Bright Gold
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|  | | gwadahunter2222 Hero


Posts: 1381 Join date: 2007-12-08 Age: 26
 | Subject: Re: Genki Naga Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:40 am | |
| | vegeta002 wrote: | I based my Naga characters profile off my Saiyans (from several sites), then the race off of him.
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It was obvious but I would say this thing a saiyans can be summed by one thing=I got the power.
The saiyans is very efficient only against creature based on power but if you oppose them a situation where the power is useless or they don't have to fight to win, they don't know what to do except if you use god-modding.
That's why they kill all the Dragon Ball's universe, because it was not based only on power and fight. The fact the universe focuse on them the story always repeated itself a strong guy more powerful than the previous and the Saiyans have to defeat him, there will have a new transformation or skill and if the opponent is too powerfull they combined all their energy or the energy of the world to defeat him.
Your genki naga will work in same way, if he is not enough powerful he channel the energy in all the living form or the world to increase their power and give them an infinite energy.
| vegeta002 wrote: | | Saiyans were overpowered because the got stonger constantly and transformed, this species has higher physical abilities than most nagas, but they have limits (I also said they are the strongest race in their world, where humans, fairies & these Naga's are dominant, but nothing about Felarya) and are more vulnerable to magic than normal Naga's. |
Their weakness to magic is classical and useful only if your characters meet only magical's user and event that when they can get constantly increase their without to be transformed by draining life force from their surrounding, you can surpass this weakness easily.
The only thing which can limit a genki naga is the fact his using his own energy only because his restricted by his own physical limits. When you train you won't increase your Ki level but just manipulate it better the only way to increase it it's to drain it from another living being.
The naga are restricted in magic due to their element affinities in clear they depend on their element, but how the genki naga use their power they surpass any type of naga because the ki or the life force is an universal force, they can drain from everything even the element.
To use the life force as alternative as magic is a good idea but how they use it they may look a bit too much powerful because it's the same way as the summoning Bahamut Zero in Feinal Fantaisy VII works, In clear with his six wings channel the energy of the universe in a powerfull blast in the same way.
You should think in batter way how they use their power, how they use it they can do everything.
Edit: change the gender ratio because 80% males and 20% are females, their sexual tendency are very suspicious  _________________ I can call the snows, and wind, and lightning. The trees may bend to me when I ask. The rivers may flow where I ask them to. But I am granted these things because I ask , with respect in my heart, and I am willing to offer something in return. I request only the barest needs for myself and my people.
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|  | | vegeta002 Hero


Posts: 1033 Join date: 2008-08-01 Age: 20 Location: Wandering around Felarya
 | Subject: Re: Genki Naga Wed Aug 06, 2008 4:43 am | |
| | Quote: | The saiyans is very efficient only against creature based on power but if you oppose them a situation where the power is useless or they don't have to fight to win, they don't know what to do except if you use god-modding.
That's why they kill all the Dragon Ball's universe, because it was not based only on power and fight. The fact the universe focuse on them the story always repeated itself a strong guy more powerful than the previous and the Saiyans have to defeat him, there will have a new transformation or skill and if the opponent is too powerfull they combined all their energy or the energy of the world to defeat him.
Your genki naga will work in same way, if he is not enough powerful he channel the energy in all the living form or the world to increase their power and give them an infinite energy. |
Only Goku could channel others power and then only because he was pure good. That is very rare. They could give power to others, but it could not be taken by them. Ki should be efficient against most people, Ki users are better prepared to protect against it than non-ki users. The only ones that will be really affected will be ones who only protect against magic (like the big bugs) because they will have to rely on physical defence instead of what they are used to.
| Quote: | | Their weakness to magic is classical and useful only if your characters meet only magical's user and event that when they can get constantly increase their without to be transformed by draining life force from their surrounding, you can surpass this weakness easily. |
They can be effected by any magic easier than normal Naga's, how does Ki help overcome that? How does Ki help when you've been shrunk or immobilized? It will only help so much.
| Quote: | The only thing which can limit a genki naga is the fact his using his own energy only because his restricted by his own physical limits. When you train you won't increase your Ki level but just manipulate it better the only way to increase it it's to drain it from another living being.
The naga are restricted in magic due to their element affinities in clear they depend on their element, but how the genki naga use their power they surpass any type of naga because the ki or the life force is an universal force, they can drain from everything even the element.
To use the life force as alternative as magic is a good idea but how they use it they may look a bit too much powerful because it's the same way as the summoning Bahamut Zero in Feinal Fantaisy VII works, In clear with his six wings channel the energy of the universe in a powerfull blast in the same way.
You should think in batter way how they use their power, how they use it they can do everything. |
Maybe if I change the profile so that most generic ones can only use Ki to enhance speed, strength, etc to a certain extent (Say, a 40% increase ?) and only the really talented/trained ones can can actually use it as energy blasts? My Naga character, Ha'dara, is an Explorer and can use energy attacks at a somewhat basic level.
| Quote: | change the gender ratio because 80% males and 20% are females, their sexual tendency are very suspicious  |
And the regular mostly female Naga's are any different? Anyway, it is now 60/40. That won't be as bad, yet isn't female dominated like the normal ones. _________________ Name: Ha'dara - Species: Genki Naga Age: 190 - Gender: Male Element: Ki energy - Height: - 100 foot Diet: Fruit, vegetables, animals Hair: Gold & spiked - Scales: Gold/Orange Eyes: Bright Gold
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|  | | gwadahunter2222 Hero


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 | Subject: Re: Genki Naga Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:41 am | |
| | vegeta002 wrote: | Only Goku could channel others power and then only because he was pure good. That is very rare. They could give power to others, but it could not be taken by them. Ki should be efficient against most people, Ki users are better prepared to protect against it than non-ki users. |
Not really Krilin succeeded to manipulate it and used it against Vegeta, Son Gohan deviated when Krilin missed Vegeta. Cell did it too. Boo stopped it and return it against Goku.
The fact is a pure good can doing, it's not really a limit itself, all Akira Toryama's main character are very naive and pure so it's something he always emphizes,but if he wanted everyone would use the Genki Dama but he prefered Goku used it as he's last card.
To correct you only Goku learned to channels others powers, everyone could do that in the Dragon Ball universe beacause it's a skill which can be learned. In other universe this abilitiy has been more developped, anycreature can channel his ki to an element or another living being to increase his power without to be necessary a pure good.
To be simple any living form has Ki inside it, in clear a ki-user is effective against any kind of living being. I will quote another manga Samourai deeper Kyo, the character of Akari, she has the possibilies to manipulate the ki of other except her own ki, she use this ability to heal someone but she chan use this ability in battle. She can drain the life force and kill his opponent and regenerate herself.
| vegeta002 wrote: | The only ones that will be really affected will be ones who only protect against magic (like the big bugs) because they will have to rely on physical defence instead of what they are used to. |
Sorry for you but the ki can be used to increase you physical or magical defense, In dragon Ball Z it was mostly use in a physical and powerfull way by the Sayans but other characters like the namek use it in another way.
| vegeta002 wrote: | They can be effected by any magic easier than normal Naga's, how does Ki help overcome that? How does Ki help when you've been shrunk or immobilized? It will only help so much. |
They are many possibilities when you manipulate ki and break a magic spell affecting you is one of them.
The weakness to magic is the natural flaw to any guy who has no affinities with magic.
| vegeta002 wrote: | Maybe if I change the profile so that most generic ones can only use Ki to enhance speed, strength, etc to a certain extent (Say, a 40% increase ?) and only the really talented/trained ones can can actually use it as energy blasts? |
The problem is not the blast it's very common but the fact they can increase their physical abilities is not a problem but they are not restricted to that. The manipulation of Ki offer many possibilities but the only restriction is the physical and natural limits, and the fact they can increase by draining other energy to increase their power can make them too much powerful. The genki dama is the most powerful attack in DBZ and it can even destroy a planet. So it was stated only Goku can do that to avoid some overabuse of this skill in the manga.
You should read other mangas, like Yuyu Hakusho,Hunter x Hunter, Bleach, Black Cat or I will quote it even if I loathe this manga Naruto. You will understand what I mean. In Dragon Ball the manipulation of ki was used in an uber powerful way.
| vegeta002 wrote: | And the regular mostly female Naga's are any different? |
I mean increase the number of female because when the female are rare in general the males tends to fight between each other to reproduce themselves except if they find interest in males
To conclude: The ability of the Genki naga is interesting but very common, they use an another power than magic but to increase their physical abilities and their power, it can be do in a magical way, except here he can't not be dispel. Next to an average naga they are more physically developped except if you exaggerate and make them very powerful. It's what I fear is you make them to much similar to the saiyans in their developpment 
And another point to have a strong level in ki doesn't mean they can not be defeated by a creature with a low level of ki and which are not a magical user, as it said "Size doesn't matter." _________________ I can call the snows, and wind, and lightning. The trees may bend to me when I ask. The rivers may flow where I ask them to. But I am granted these things because I ask , with respect in my heart, and I am willing to offer something in return. I request only the barest needs for myself and my people.
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|  | | vegeta002 Hero


Posts: 1033 Join date: 2008-08-01 Age: 20 Location: Wandering around Felarya
 | Subject: Re: Genki Naga Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:34 am | |
| | Quote: | Not really Krilin succeeded to manipulate it and used it against Vegeta, Son Gohan deviated when Krilin missed Vegeta. Cell did it too. Boo stopped it and return it against Goku. |
Krillin didn't channel power, Goku gave him the power he managed to keep after Vegeta's attack. Gohan was able to rebound an existing attack. I don't think Cell ever proved his boast about being able to use the Spirit Bomb. Kid Buu resisted an attack that was already thrown, Spirit bomb is a standard attack when thrown and can be stopped if your strong enough.
| Quote: | Sorry for you but the ki can be used to increase you physical or magical defense, In dragon Ball Z it was mostly use in a physical and powerfull way by the Sayans but other characters like the namek use it in another way.
The weakness to magic is the natural flaw to any guy who has no affinities with magic. |
I cannot think of any comeback for this one.
| Quote: | The problem is not the blast it's very common but the fact they can increase their physical abilities is not a problem but they are not restricted to that. The manipulation of Ki offer many possibilities but the only restriction is the physical and natural limits, and the fact they can increase by draining other energy to increase their power can make them too much powerful. The genki dama is the most powerful attack in DBZ and it can even destroy a planet. So it was stated only Goku can do that to avoid some overabuse of this skill in the manga. |
Just because they can manipulate their energy, doesn't strictly mean they can take other peoples. I never said they could, only that there was a rumor that is constantly denied.
| Quote: | You should read other mangas, like Yuyu Hakusho,Hunter x Hunter, Bleach, Black Cat or I will quote it even if I loathe this manga Naruto. You will understand what I mean. In Dragon Ball the manipulation of ki was used in an uber powerful way.
To conclude: The ability of the Genki naga is interesting but very common, they use an another power than magic but to increase their physical abilities and their power, it can be do in a magical way, except here he can't not be dispel. Next to an average naga they are more physically developped except if you exaggerate and make them very powerful. It's what I fear is you make them to much similar to the saiyans in their developpment 
And another point to have a strong level in ki doesn't mean they can not be defeated by a creature with a low level of ki and which are not a magical user, as it said "Size doesn't matter." |
I am trying to tone down their power so they aren't super powerful, they were not as 'broken' as you make them seem in the first place. I said they could channel their life-force instead of magic, I never said anything about being super-strong or draining energy from others, just different from the other Naga's. _________________ Name: Ha'dara - Species: Genki Naga Age: 190 - Gender: Male Element: Ki energy - Height: - 100 foot Diet: Fruit, vegetables, animals Hair: Gold & spiked - Scales: Gold/Orange Eyes: Bright Gold
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|  | | gwadahunter2222 Hero


Posts: 1381 Join date: 2007-12-08 Age: 26
 | Subject: Re: Genki Naga Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:50 am | |
| | vegeta002 wrote: | I don't think Cell ever proved his boast about being able to use the Spirit Bomb. |
In the manga Cell said he can do it  If you play in the Budokai's games when Cell says "Okay planet, give me that stupid energy" he is doing a genki dama, except it's green. It's possible to the fact there was a spy robot who takes all the data about everyone, mostly Goku during his battle against Vegeta. The fact you need to be pure good, had been said in the movie involving C-13 and had in the anime's version but never stated in the manga there is no restriction in the using of this ability 
| vegeta002 wrote: | I am trying to tone down their power so they aren't super powerful, they were not as 'broken' as you make them seem in the first place. I said they could channel their life-force instead of magic, I never said anything about being super-strong or draining energy from others, just different from the other Naga's. |
The problem is not a question of power but how they use their ability in how they use it's very raw, in my opinion it can be shape in a way in relation of the genki naga's way of life.
The life-force is a raw power like magic, it can be used in different ways, if you don't shape it in a personnal way it will be used in a raw and powerful way.
Edit:I will do a thread which explain the manipultion of ki or life-force. _________________ I can call the snows, and wind, and lightning. The trees may bend to me when I ask. The rivers may flow where I ask them to. But I am granted these things because I ask , with respect in my heart, and I am willing to offer something in return. I request only the barest needs for myself and my people.
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Posts: 1033 Join date: 2008-08-01 Age: 20 Location: Wandering around Felarya
 | Subject: Re: Genki Naga Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:30 pm | |
| | gwadahunter2222 wrote: | In the manga Cell said he can do it  If you play in the Budokai's games when Cell says "Okay planet, give me that stupid energy" he is doing a genki dama, except it's green. It's possible to the fact there was a spy robot who takes all the data about everyone, mostly Goku during his battle against Vegeta. The fact you need to be pure good, had been said in the movie involving C-13 and had in the anime's version but never stated in the manga there is no restriction in the using of this ability  |
Cell said he caould use it, but didn't prove it. The game is not canon because canon is something that happened in the Manga. The idea that Cell really could use it is just as canon as anything from the movies, the the restriction fromthe Androin #13 movie makes a bit more sense than Cell using the attack.
| Quote: | | Essentially, to use the Genki Dama, one must have a pure heart so they can manipulate and gather energy, otherwise the move can backfire and possibly hurt or kill the user. In the Dragonball Z feature Super Android 13, Kuririn reveals that Goku cannot gather the energy while in his Super Saiyan state. This is because the state of Super Saiyan is inherently malicious and taints the heart and soul. |
This came from a wiki devoted to Dragonball and stated that only the pure can use it safely, while bad people can but may only damage themselves (which would explain why Cell boasted but never attempted it), though I'm not certain if it can be considered canon or not.
Everything a Ki user can do is irrelivant unless they know they do it. I already mentioned something about little violence and use for the power, so its not likely that they would even know Ki users can do that (and how would someone manipulate energy in a way they don't even know is possible?). _________________ Name: Ha'dara - Species: Genki Naga Age: 190 - Gender: Male Element: Ki energy - Height: - 100 foot Diet: Fruit, vegetables, animals Hair: Gold & spiked - Scales: Gold/Orange Eyes: Bright Gold
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|  | | gwadahunter2222 Hero


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 | Subject: Re: Genki Naga Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:04 am | |
| | vegeta002 wrote: | | This came from a wiki devoted to Dragonball and stated that only the pure can use it safely, while bad people can but may only damage themselves (which would explain why Cell boasted but never attempted it), though I'm not certain if it can be considered canon or not. |
Beware the statements can change from a wiki to another, so we can discuss about it and it will be endless.
| vegeta002 wrote: | Everything a Ki user can do is irrelivant unless they know they do it. I already mentioned something about little violence and use for the power, so its not likely that they would even know Ki users can do that (and how would someone manipulate energy in a way they don't even know is possible?). |
It's a canon verity in Dragon Ball universe to have a pure heart to use the genki dama doesn't apply in other universes. It's not an absolute verity
Ki-users exist in other universes than DBZ, the genki dama can be a rare ability only a pure heart can use but this fact is irrelivant in other universe. So you can meet someone from another universe who are pure evil and manipulate the genki dama.
Some creature can naturally channel the energy in the same way the genki dama do without necessary to have a pure heart.
You try to make it as an absolute canon or it's not be true. _________________ I can call the snows, and wind, and lightning. The trees may bend to me when I ask. The rivers may flow where I ask them to. But I am granted these things because I ask , with respect in my heart, and I am willing to offer something in return. I request only the barest needs for myself and my people.
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Posts: 1033 Join date: 2008-08-01 Age: 20 Location: Wandering around Felarya
 | Subject: Re: Genki Naga Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:12 am | |
| | Quote: | It's a canon verity in Dragon Ball universe to have a pure heart to use the genki dama doesn't apply in other universes. It's not an absolute verity
Ki-users exist in other universes than DBZ, the genki dama can be a rare ability only a pure heart can use but this fact is irrelivant in other universe. So you can meet someone from another universe who are pure evil and manipulate the genki dama.
Some creature can naturally channel the energy in the same way the genki dama do without necessary to have a pure heart.
You try to make it as an absolute canon or it's not be true. |
That part was talking about a power being useless and/or irrelivent if you don't know it exists, I'm not trying to make anything canon. I have seen several shows that use Ki in different ways and know that it varies.
Even if Ki can do all the things you mention, you will still need to know about that ability before you can use it. _________________ Name: Ha'dara - Species: Genki Naga Age: 190 - Gender: Male Element: Ki energy - Height: - 100 foot Diet: Fruit, vegetables, animals Hair: Gold & spiked - Scales: Gold/Orange Eyes: Bright Gold
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 | Subject: Re: Genki Naga Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:36 am | |
| [quote="vegeta002"] | Quote: | That part was talking about a power being useless and/or irrelivent if you don't know it exists, I'm not trying to make anything canon. I have seen several shows that use Ki in different ways and know that it varies.
Even if Ki can do all the things you mention, you will still need to know about that ability before you can use it. |
This power exist but in different way and can be used in different way so the way your naga uses it, it's very common and generic to other creatures in Felarya can understand it, you shouldn't think other creature won't know this ability because in your homeworld it was rare but in other world like in Felarya it's another question.
To someone like Crisis who doesn't practice martial art or magic it's normal but it's not necessary true for all the predators.
In a world when you meet, fairies demon ore man strange and dangerous creature, do you think this ability is unknow. It's very common. _________________ I can call the snows, and wind, and lightning. The trees may bend to me when I ask. The rivers may flow where I ask them to. But I am granted these things because I ask , with respect in my heart, and I am willing to offer something in return. I request only the barest needs for myself and my people.
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 | Subject: Re: Genki Naga Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:42 am | |
| [quote="gwadahunter2222"] | vegeta002 wrote: | | Quote: | That part was talking about a power being useless and/or irrelivent if you don't know it exists, I'm not trying to make anything canon. I have seen several shows that use Ki in different ways and know that it varies.
Even if Ki can do all the things you mention, you will still need to know about that ability before you can use it. |
This power exist but in different way and can be used in different way so the way your naga uses it, it's very common and generic to other creatures in Felarya can understand it, you shouldn't think other creature won't know this ability because in your homeworld it was rare but in other world like in Felarya it's another question.
To someone like Crisis who doesn't practice martial art or magic it's normal but it's not necessary true for all the predators.
In a world when you meet, fairies demon ore man strange and dangerous creature, do you think this ability is unknow. It's very common. |
I never said it was unknown there, I never actually compared it to things in Felarya. Though, it was a good point.
Anyway do you think the race itself is ready? _________________ Name: Ha'dara - Species: Genki Naga Age: 190 - Gender: Male Element: Ki energy - Height: - 100 foot Diet: Fruit, vegetables, animals Hair: Gold & spiked - Scales: Gold/Orange Eyes: Bright Gold
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 | Subject: Re: Genki Naga Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:09 am | |
| | vegeta002 wrote: | Anyway do you think the race itself is ready? |
They lack of subtlety in their abilities, they are very common but very powerful, they are very prdictable, they can defeat a Kensha and die from its poison. It would give two possibilities 1)they try to survive as they can in an unpredictable world as Felarya. 2)You make them uber powerful and do many DBZ like situation. _________________ I can call the snows, and wind, and lightning. The trees may bend to me when I ask. The rivers may flow where I ask them to. But I am granted these things because I ask , with respect in my heart, and I am willing to offer something in return. I request only the barest needs for myself and my people.
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 | Subject: Re: Genki Naga Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:39 am | |
| Subtlety? Some people are far from subtle and you don't need to be subtle when you like in a peaceful world (which they do). | Quote: | | 1)they try to survive as they can in an unpredictable world as Felarya. 2)You make them uber powerful and do many DBZ like situation. |
For #1, I have one of them (my character) in Felarya while the rest don't even know about it. As for #2, I am not trying to make them uber powerful, I gave them 2 basic Ki abilities with no confirmed others. I tried to tone them down as much as I can from the Saiyans they were based on, the only other way I can think of to tone them down anymore is to remove their power completely.
I am just trying to make Naga's that are different to the normal ones, besides Ha'dara is in an unstarted RP (called 'First Day') and a short story on DeviantArt, so there is one in Felarya.
Actually, I can think of another way, remove the Ki and give them magic. That would defeat the whole purpose of making them, though. _________________ Name: Ha'dara - Species: Genki Naga Age: 190 - Gender: Male Element: Ki energy - Height: - 100 foot Diet: Fruit, vegetables, animals Hair: Gold & spiked - Scales: Gold/Orange Eyes: Bright Gold
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 | Subject: Re: Genki Naga Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:27 am | |
| | vegeta002 wrote: | Subtlety? Some people are far from subtle and you don't need to be subtle when you like in a peaceful world (which they do).
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It's the Subtlety of Felarya, it can look at the first sight a peaceful world but it's not always the case. I don't mean it's war like world but just it can be dangerous if you don't take care. 
So if you see someone very peaceful in Felarya in reality it's them the more dangerous, because it can easily kill you.
To the ability you can keep as it was or remove the ability to channel with other energy like the genki dama or flesh it more depending on your character.
Because the concept of the genki dama can be summed as normal energy ball but with more power, it's more a matter of power.
Let's take an example of some skill in DBZ: The makenko sampo from piccolo, he channels his energy in a piercing ray, it's more developped as a simple blast which focuse on power this skill is very efficient against strong defense.
Kiensan from Krilin, the energy is shape in a circular saw to cut the enemy, he was near to kill Nappa or Freezer with that.
Goku's teleportation, he learn from an alien race to control his energy to teleport himself next to someone he has previously sensed his energy.
Dragon ball was very good until freezer many people use manipulate their ki to a specific use, it was very good but when the story started to focused on the saiyans and becomes a matter of power. The anime lost its charm and many interesting character with a strong potential was neglected and abandonned.
When we look the ability of your naga they use their power in a powerful and destructive blast or increase their strenght I don't think a peaceful race will manipulate the ki in that way. I think they will try to shape their power to a specific use.
By example your naga use their power in the same way of the Kiensan or the Makenko sempo, I would not think they would look so much powerful because they use their power in specific and deadly ability. They can use the genki system to make it more efficient.
Peaceful people don't like to draw the attention, they don't use their power in a destructive way risking to destroy their own house. They develop their ability in a deadly and efficient way and be sure they won't have problem.
Do you see what I mean  _________________ I can call the snows, and wind, and lightning. The trees may bend to me when I ask. The rivers may flow where I ask them to. But I am granted these things because I ask , with respect in my heart, and I am willing to offer something in return. I request only the barest needs for myself and my people.
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