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PostSubject: Fairy Char Wiki   Fairy Char Wiki Icon_minitimeMon Nov 16, 2009 5:40 pm

Okay going through the Wiki and under size the fairies say "varies" and while I an understand that I think a more useful thing for fairies would be to brake it down a little

For example, my fairy would be like

Min Size: (say 3"')
Max Size: (Say 70')
Usual Size: (say 6')

Usual size being about what size the fairy can frequently be found at. Whether or not they can change size fairies would probably still have a normalized sized they like to to usaly be at.
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PostSubject: Re: Fairy Char Wiki   Fairy Char Wiki Icon_minitimeMon Nov 16, 2009 5:52 pm

thats a good point.

mara stays at around 6' tall because bael stands at around 6'2" as an elf. maybe a little taller.
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PostSubject: Max size?   Fairy Char Wiki Icon_minitimeMon Nov 16, 2009 6:01 pm

Don't quote me, but wasn't maximum size for a Fairy 100 feet?
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PostSubject: Re: Fairy Char Wiki   Fairy Char Wiki Icon_minitimeMon Nov 16, 2009 6:08 pm

well it would depend on the power of a fairy's magic strength.

if you had a really strong fairy, you could probably size shift out too 120ft. it the fairy could handle that kind of power.

*shivers at the thought of a dimensionally unstable fairy, with out of control magic*

same goes for shrinking i would think. the dimension magic would be tougher to envelop a 60ft naga for example, so it would take much longer for a fairy to shrink something with a larger size. or so i would imagine.
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PostSubject: Re: Fairy Char Wiki   Fairy Char Wiki Icon_minitimeMon Nov 16, 2009 6:15 pm

Archmage_Bael wrote:
same goes for shrinking i would think. the dimension magic would be tougher to envelop a 60ft naga for example, so it would take much longer for a fairy to shrink something with a larger size. or so i would imagine.

I believe the given limits for shrinking are that things twelve to fifteen feet high are about the limit to shrink at all, while things larger than that would be unaffected.
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PostSubject: Re: Fairy Char Wiki   Fairy Char Wiki Icon_minitimeMon Nov 16, 2009 7:01 pm

they can shrink themselves cant they? fairies can get HUGE.
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PostSubject: Re: Fairy Char Wiki   Fairy Char Wiki Icon_minitimeMon Nov 16, 2009 7:18 pm

Archmage_Bael wrote:
they can shrink themselves cant they? fairies can get HUGE.

I was referring to a target to shrink, which as I recall goes by different rules than themselves. While they can easily alter their own size, changing the size of something else is much more difficult unless within an easy size range. Human-sized seems to be perfect for this.
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PostSubject: Re: Fairy Char Wiki   Fairy Char Wiki Icon_minitimeMon Nov 16, 2009 8:04 pm

well like I also said, if you had a powerful fairy, they could shrink larger things.
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PostSubject: Re: Fairy Char Wiki   Fairy Char Wiki Icon_minitimeTue Nov 17, 2009 12:58 am

Okay the average fairy has a hard time with things bigger than 12 , now much as with any skill or talent this can vary ALLOT, more so with fairies. Even in magical skill its going to vary some. Thats why Soinee tops out at 70', sure she has some strong magic in other places, but her talent for growing goes about that high, conversely she is better at shrinking things than most other fairies. An no she can't go around shrinking giant nagas maby a risa though. My point in this post is that it varies allot in fairies and it can be specific to an individual so having 3 different size categories for a fairy in the wiki would be a good idea.
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PostSubject: Re: Fairy Char Wiki   Fairy Char Wiki Icon_minitimeTue Nov 17, 2009 1:03 am

true.

couldnt a larger fairy have the ability to shrink a larger creature? or is it just capped out no matter what?
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PostSubject: Re: Fairy Char Wiki   Fairy Char Wiki Icon_minitimeTue Nov 17, 2009 1:06 am

Well they are probably related ability's, but not completely tied to one another.
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PostSubject: Re: Fairy Char Wiki   Fairy Char Wiki Icon_minitimeTue Nov 17, 2009 1:12 am

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true.

couldnt a larger fairy have the ability to shrink a larger creature? or is it just capped out no matter what?

No, the power of their magic is not proportional to their physical size. They have the same magic whether they're an inch tall or a hundred feet.
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PostSubject: Re: Fairy Char Wiki   Fairy Char Wiki Icon_minitimeTue Nov 17, 2009 1:14 am

No he meant that a fairy that was capable of growing bigger than normal have greater than normal shrinking power as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Fairy Char Wiki   Fairy Char Wiki Icon_minitimeTue Nov 17, 2009 1:21 am

asaenvolk wrote:
No he meant that a fairy that was capable of growing bigger than normal have greater than normal shrinking power as well.

Okeh.

I don't know if super-growing has any bearing on shrinking magic. They seem to be based on different things, as fairies don't possess god-like powers letting them grow others just as themselves.
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PostSubject: Re: Fairy Char Wiki   Fairy Char Wiki Icon_minitimeTue Nov 17, 2009 1:22 am

heh true.
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PostSubject: Re: Fairy Char Wiki   Fairy Char Wiki Icon_minitimeTue Nov 17, 2009 2:03 am

asaenvolk wrote:
Okay going through the Wiki and under size the fairies say "varies" and while I an understand that I think a more useful thing for fairies would be to brake it down a little

For example, my fairy would be like

Min Size: (say 3"')
Max Size: (Say 70')
Usual Size: (say 6')

Usual size being about what size the fairy can frequently be found at. Whether or not they can change size fairies would probably still have a normalized sized they like to to usaly be at.

That's a good idea I think and it makes sense Smile
Though indeed the self growth/shrink ability is not related to their abilities to shrink other things.
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PostSubject: Re: Fairy Char Wiki   Fairy Char Wiki Icon_minitimeTue Nov 17, 2009 2:24 am

ah, so just cus a fairy's 100 ft tall doesn't mean it can shrink something 50 ft tall?
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PostSubject: Re: Fairy Char Wiki   Fairy Char Wiki Icon_minitimeTue Nov 17, 2009 2:49 am

no, it's really spearated.
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PostSubject: Re: Fairy Char Wiki   Fairy Char Wiki Icon_minitimeTue Nov 17, 2009 3:13 pm

thanks for that clarification then ^^
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PostSubject: Re: Fairy Char Wiki   Fairy Char Wiki Icon_minitimeFri Nov 20, 2009 9:53 am

-THOUGH-

Well, let's try not to be hard-and-fast, let's keep those things as general guidelines. I was working on a fairy who worked hard for each of her 300 feet (or beyond when she tries really hard because she used to be a growth nut like that), I'd rather she weren't regarded as out of place. If it's not too much to ask. Pun not intended... I really can think of some things I'd do with a 300 foot tall fairy. Oh, sorry, things I'd do TO a 300 foot fairy. Or rather, things I'd have someone else do to a 300 foot fairy that would make her try to push even that limit (the kraken will rape you because it's CRAZY!).

Also, karbo's Subeta shrank an abyssal tonorion who was partnering with one that was WAY OVER 1.000 foot long in the first manga, unless it just looked larger because of the surprise! I doubt she did so reflexively, too... maybe it has something to do with her glove and she just pretended to be surprised? Or the device that Crisis was carrying? I'm impatient...

Not to mention Randomdude's Kiki shrank a fully grown naga, and showed no signs of it being difficult. The naga was willing and there was true love involved, but Kiki isn't renowned, at least in the wiki, for having super-shrinking-powers. So let's keep the 'around 12 feet' as just 'public domain' level fairy shrinking powers, with exceptions not abounding.
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PostSubject: Re: Fairy Char Wiki   Fairy Char Wiki Icon_minitimeFri Nov 20, 2009 10:01 am

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Also, karbo's Subeta shrank an abyssal tonorion who was partnering with one that was WAY OVER 1.000 foot long in the first manga, unless it just looked larger because of the surprise! I doubt she did so reflexively, too... maybe it has something to do with her glove and she just pretended to be surprised? Or the device that Crisis was carrying? I'm impatient...

No, Subeta shrank a regular tonorion. It was bigger than the first one, but it wasn't even a fraction the size of the abyssal tonorion.


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Not to mention Randomdude's Kiki shrank a fully grown naga, and showed no signs of it being difficult. The naga was willing and there was true love involved, but Kiki isn't renowned, at least in the wiki, for having super-shrinking-powers. So let's keep the 'around 12 feet' as just 'public domain' level fairy shrinking powers, with exceptions not abounding.

Kiki is also a crimson maiden, the most powerful brand of fairy currently documented.
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PostSubject: Re: Fairy Char Wiki   Fairy Char Wiki Icon_minitimeFri Nov 20, 2009 1:26 pm

heh, so a crimson fairy could shrink larger beasts then?

It would make sense somewhat, as magic is largely effected by the strength of the individual casting the spell.
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PostSubject: Re: Fairy Char Wiki   Fairy Char Wiki Icon_minitimeFri Nov 20, 2009 1:56 pm

Odd I thought it was just because it was before the 12' size suggestion was put up and thats why she was able to do it, honestly I just wouldn't focus on it too much and move on.
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PostSubject: Re: Fairy Char Wiki   Fairy Char Wiki Icon_minitimeFri Nov 20, 2009 2:22 pm

agreed.
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PostSubject: Re: Fairy Char Wiki   Fairy Char Wiki Icon_minitimeMon Nov 23, 2009 11:42 am

Seconded. A fairy can shrink anything if doing so would be sexier, cooler, funnier or cuter (writer's choice) than the alternative.
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