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PostSubject: That giant neko   That giant neko Icon_minitimeSat Apr 09, 2011 3:12 pm

Ok so like you may know, there will be a giant neko in the coming vore comic.

I personnaly don't really see what the big fuss is about. For one she could be one of a kind, or the result of a dimensional anomaly when she came to Felarya, or she could be from a giant tribe in an uncharted territory, or have eaten a weird mushroom or whatever ^^
plus I'm not a big fan of absolute rules in general.


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PostSubject: Re: That giant neko   That giant neko Icon_minitimeSat Apr 09, 2011 3:14 pm

Or she could be unique since most giant elves, aside for Scarlet elves and part of another one that I forgot the name of, they don't really claim to belong to any clan or tribe or whatever.
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PostSubject: Re: That giant neko   That giant neko Icon_minitimeSat Apr 09, 2011 3:16 pm

I don't mind if she's unique, and I don't think Cliff does either. We just were stating that a race of them wouldn't be a good idea. I actually like the idea of a single giant one, because it stresses the crazy and unpredictable nature of dimensional anomalies.
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PostSubject: Re: That giant neko   That giant neko Icon_minitimeSat Apr 09, 2011 3:17 pm

Some ideas, for fun, for why she's giant:


1. She found a strange magical artifact that made her giant.

2. She was altered, like Jora, upon coming to Felarya.

3. Involved in a ritual similar to those used by the Tajyms.

4. Her kind come from outside of the Felarya. Their population has increased enough that some have migrated in to form new territories.

5. A wizard did it.

6. Is a half-blood whose mother entered Felarya and became a giantess.

7. Is the avatar of some Goddess.

8. The result of evil scientific experiments performed by insane scientific mages.


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PostSubject: Re: That giant neko   That giant neko Icon_minitimeSat Apr 09, 2011 3:18 pm

Reposting this from the Q&A:
I've got to say, I really don't find anything wrong with the idea of Giant Nekos...
I also don't see why there can't be any size-shifting magics other then what the Fairies use.

Really, just because we haven't seen ether before doesn't mean that they couldn't exist.
Giant Nekos could hail from a distance part of Felarya, possibly one without a super-sized variant of predator we're uses to.
(I haven't read the Vore Comic, but I'd find it funny if this Neko were to come across a Giant Naga and scream "Oh my gods, A GIANT NAGA!!!")

As for Size-changing Magic, it's possibly that it's just not practiced, probably because it ether:
A) Makes you smaller and thus more likely to get eaten.
Or...
B) Makes you larger, getting you confused for some giant predator and thus more likely to be killed.

...And now I want to do a Neera scorceress charachter who specilizes in Size-altering magic...
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PostSubject: Re: That giant neko   That giant neko Icon_minitimeSat Apr 09, 2011 3:18 pm

well, i dont think giant nekos will be that unique after the publication of the manga. people will just come with their own giant nekos.

also when i see karbo saying things like "wheres the big deal" and "As for that neko question, I really don't see what the big fuss is about. I personnaly don't like absolute rules, and even then there is several ways you could have that giant neko. That's not the end of the world."

it just means i got my answer. giant nekos can exist in felarya.
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PostSubject: Re: That giant neko   That giant neko Icon_minitimeSat Apr 09, 2011 3:20 pm

I just think the same as the others. I have no complaints towards the giant neko, but it would be better if she really was just one of a kind, or the result of some oddity. As the others said, suddenly have an entire race of giant nekos for no real reason feels unnecessary
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PostSubject: Re: That giant neko   That giant neko Icon_minitimeSat Apr 09, 2011 3:22 pm

No, Kris, you didn't get YOUR answer. You got AN answer. Don't be so provocative, and people won't assume you're arguing. Frankly, it's an answer that Cliff, JT, and myself all don't mind.
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PostSubject: Re: That giant neko   That giant neko Icon_minitimeSat Apr 09, 2011 3:22 pm

Krisexy26 wrote:
well, i dont think giant nekos will be that unique after the publication of the manga. people will just come with their own giant nekos.

also when i see karbo saying things like "wheres the big deal" and "As for that neko question, I really don't see what the big fuss is about. I personnaly don't like absolute rules, and even then there is several ways you could have that giant neko. That's not the end of the world."

it just means i got my answer. giant nekos can exist in felarya.

I don't think anyone was arguing against the occaisional, isolated case of a giant neko.

The main issue is the idea of a whole race of giant nekos. That is what a lot of us don't agree with.

I'd be just fine if they were filed under the same rules as Felaryan giants/giantesses, where they are all either offworlders and/or the result of some kind of wierd dimensional anomaly.
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PostSubject: Re: That giant neko   That giant neko Icon_minitimeSat Apr 09, 2011 3:23 pm

Really, the part of the Minor Race is that, unlike Dryads and Sphinxes (Sphinxes are underused!), are not very prominent and are uncommon among giants, which have already been stated as uncommon. I would say that a giant neko simply fall in the same category of Giantesses as a term to describe rare instances where a humanoid individual is giant.
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PostSubject: Re: That giant neko   That giant neko Icon_minitimeSat Apr 09, 2011 3:24 pm

Ok well I don't plan to add a new races of giant nekos so I guess we all agree on the point in the end.
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PostSubject: Re: That giant neko   That giant neko Icon_minitimeSat Apr 09, 2011 3:28 pm

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Ok well I don't plan to add a new races of giant nekos so I guess we all agree on the point in the end.

Worse comes to worse, they could be so uncommon and rarely encountered that no one is certain if they are accidents, or just an extremely rare native species. There could be a bit of vagueness there, with rumors floating around amongst both predators and humans.

Lots of ways to go with it, really.

The same could go with giants/giantesses. Unless you actually meet one to ask the question, no one has any way of knowing whether that giant/giantess is native or not. There's probably plenty of rumors around Negav of villages of giants out in the forest, and other such things.
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PostSubject: Re: That giant neko   That giant neko Icon_minitimeSat Apr 09, 2011 3:30 pm

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Karbo wrote:
Ok well I don't plan to add a new races of giant nekos so I guess we all agree on the point in the end.

Worse comes to worse, they could be so uncommon and rarely encountered that no one is certain if they are accidents, or just an extremely rare native species. There could be a bit of vagueness there, with rumors floating around amongst both predators and humans.

Lots of ways to go with it, really.

The same could go with giants/giantesses. Unless you actually meet one to ask the question, no one has any way of knowing whether that giant/giantess is native or not. There's probably plenty of rumors around Negav of villages of giants out in the forest, and other such things.
Ok, I like this idea.
Nice and vague with plenty of wiggle room!
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PostSubject: Re: That giant neko   That giant neko Icon_minitimeSat Apr 09, 2011 3:32 pm

though, i think giant nekos can get canon since many other characters are off-worlders and are canon.
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PostSubject: Re: That giant neko   That giant neko Icon_minitimeSat Apr 09, 2011 3:34 pm

rcs619 wrote:
The same could go with giants/giantesses. Unless you actually meet one to ask the question, no one has any way of knowing whether that giant/giantess is native or not. There's probably plenty of rumors around Negav of villages of giants out in the forest, and other such things.

Maybe they could even be treated as an absurd myth since there couldn't possibly be giant versions of everything.

If just to poke fun at this whole situation, really xp
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PostSubject: Re: That giant neko   That giant neko Icon_minitimeSat Apr 09, 2011 3:35 pm

Krisexy26 wrote:
though, i think giant nekos can get canon since many other characters are off-worlders and are canon.
That is fine. I just don't like the idea that they've been a race this entire time and no one knew.
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PostSubject: Re: That giant neko   That giant neko Icon_minitimeSat Apr 09, 2011 3:36 pm

well, a lot of new ideas are being added in the forum that no one knew of. races are among them.
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PostSubject: Re: That giant neko   That giant neko Icon_minitimeSat Apr 09, 2011 3:39 pm

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Krisexy26 wrote:
though, i think giant nekos can get canon since many other characters are off-worlders and are canon.
That is fine. I just don't like the idea that they've been a race this entire time and no one knew.


They could have been hiding under the couch cushions this entire time. That's why no one was able to find them up till now.
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PostSubject: Re: That giant neko   That giant neko Icon_minitimeSat Apr 09, 2011 3:40 pm

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Ok, I like this idea.
Nice and vague with plenty of wiggle room!

Yep, it allows for individual giant neko characters without having to shoehorn an entirely new giant race suddenly into the canon.

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Maybe they could even be treated as an absurd myth since there couldn't possibly be giant versions of everything.

If just to poke fun at this whole situation, really xp

lol, yep. Definately an option.

Felarya is a mysterious and vast place. There's going to be all sorts of rumors floating around. Whether or not most of them are true though is another matter entirely.

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They could have been hiding under the couch cushions this entire time. That's why no one was able to find them up till now

Cats ARE a sneaky bunch. Very sneaky indeed.
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PostSubject: Re: That giant neko   That giant neko Icon_minitimeSat Apr 09, 2011 3:41 pm

I guess I'll post my thought since things seem to have calmed down.

I play Pokemon. Every 4 years, they add 100-150 more. In the games, it's not like "Hey, we just discovered a bunch of new Pokemon just now." They're added in a way so that the latest installment assumes that they were always there. That said, there suddenly being giant nekos doesn't phase me in the least.
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PostSubject: Re: That giant neko   That giant neko Icon_minitimeSat Apr 09, 2011 3:43 pm

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I guess I'll post my thought since things seem to have calmed down.

I play Pokemon. Every 4 years, they add 100-150 more. In the games, it's not like "Hey, we just discovered a bunch of new Pokemon just now." They're added in a way so that the latest installment assumes that they were always there. That said, there suddenly being giant nekos doesn't phase me in the least.

That's what's done with most giant races (and most regular races, for that matter) that get added.

The issue isn't so much adding another race, its that the thought of a race of giant nekos just seems out of place.
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PostSubject: Re: That giant neko   That giant neko Icon_minitimeSat Apr 09, 2011 3:46 pm

out of place but still possible since were debatting about it!
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PostSubject: Re: That giant neko   That giant neko Icon_minitimeSat Apr 09, 2011 4:07 pm

Yeah, I don't mind a giant neko character.... it is the concept of there being a whole race of giant nekos that sort of worried me and came off as silly. If she's an anomaly like all the giantess characters I don't mind that.

I think this is just a little part of an older discussion over what races should be what sizes that we should maybe resolve.

Generally my perception on it is something like this.

JT's Chart of Sizes!

-Humanoid races are found at only one size, dependent on the race. Humanoid counts as human looking species with variance in features.
-Big - Jotun, Titans
-Medium - Humans, Nekos, inus, etc.
-Tiny - Neera, Tombthumbs,
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-Exception - Elves. Elves at some point purposefully led a split in their species to allow for giant elves to act as protectors. Thus they are one race that exists at Medium and Big sizes
-Exception - Offworlders - all the giantesses, for example, or this giant neko. There are no Felaryan-bred giantesses, but a few do arrive from offworld. Also counts anomalies, which a world filled with magic can create.
-Exception - Fairies. They change size.

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-Tauric Races are often found in many sizes. A Tauric species usually counts as the half-humanoid half animal species we see. The exact range depends on the species. (For example, dridders and mermaids come in all sizes, from giant to tiny. But a tiny-sized centaur would be a bit silly). So, if making a species, range of size should be clarified.

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-Elementals - A whole other ballpark.
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PostSubject: Re: That giant neko   That giant neko Icon_minitimeSat Apr 09, 2011 9:12 pm

AWESUME! Exclamation a Giant Neko this will be so cool to see a giant Neko in Felarya cheers cheers (seeing as how theres giant Naga and all those other creatures that come in two sizes)I can't wait to see this Giant Neko cheers Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: That giant neko   That giant neko Icon_minitimeSun Apr 10, 2011 9:38 am

Well....er the characters will get bios eventually right?

Honestly it's up to you (Karbo) how she is so big. I'll be happy with any explanation.
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