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PostSubject: Suggestion here   Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:00 am

I noticed that there are few teenage characters, especially characters aged from 13 to 17, maybe we could try some? Since everything can happen teens, such as romance and naiveness, just a thought, I'm sure teens can make good preds and preys.
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion here   Sat Jul 09, 2011 4:25 am

Um that's going into trouble and dangerous waters with all the nudity and stuff ^^;

Having an underaged pred starts all sort of red signals to me. It's doable of course, but with a lot of caution. Personally, I prefer to not showcase them at all in my work ( save for a few exceptions )
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion here   Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:49 am

In addition to the points Karbo has made, another reason there are few teens is because of the whole immortality thing. Most preds are anywhere from fifty to hundreds of years old. The same goes for many humans and nekos, depending on where they live and their lifestyle. So more often than not, a pred is going to appear to be an adult, because they can be much much older. Make sense?

Also, even the adult preds in Felarya tend to act very childlike. Especially fairies.

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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion here   Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:28 pm

also, keep in mind that preds grow at a diferrent rate the humans. crisis is 60, but looks like an 18 year old. just cuz their actual age is not in the teens, does not mean their maturity is not in the teens. as she gets older, she's going to look more like a woman in her 20s at time goes on.
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion here   Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:17 pm

TryMeIke wrote:
also, keep in mind that preds grow at a diferrent rate the humans. crisis is 60, but looks like an 18 year old. just cuz their actual age is not in the teens, does not mean their maturity is not in the teens. as she gets older, she's going to look more like a woman in her 20s at time goes on.

Also keep in mind that people here don't physically age past their mid-20s or so.
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion here   Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:20 pm

exactly. you can't tell the difference from someone who is 100 years old from someone who is 28, or 20. or whatever. putting their age as teens is just not needed.
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion here   Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:29 pm

Though not necessarily what was intended, another problem is when people create teen characters that somehow have vast amounts of knowledge and skills. This is ridiculous since they simply haven't had the time to gain that knowledge and training.
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion here   Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:38 pm

Despite all this naysaying. Teen characters can be done. Why not? You can make a child character too. You can be an elderly character if you wanted. They just would have had to be out of Felarya at some point.

So make teen characters, just be smart about it. But then again, you should be smart about every character you make.

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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion here   Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:49 pm

Actually you'd be surprised. kids who were raised from very young in martial arts or in knowledge can and will be very intelligent, as long as they have the wisdom to apply it. Books are the primary (and valuable) resource for learning, as well as other methods.
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion here   Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:45 pm

Well, yeah, I know this immortal thing, but since we have characters aged less than 10, why not "somewhere in between"? Just a thought, and they sure can be eaten, right?
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion here   Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:46 pm

Estern kiddo wrote:
Well, yeah, I know this immortal thing, but since we have characters aged less than 10, why not "somewhere in between"? Just a thought, and they sure can be eaten, right?

yes. but be prepared to have people be VERY ANGRY WITH you about kids getting killed horribly. most people prefer to avoid that aspect of felarya.
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion here   Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:42 pm

I AM a teenager, see, and my twin sister is also a vore fan.
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion here   Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:51 pm

Your own age means nothing, anyone can write a vore fetish oriented story that involves an underage character, if you wish to do so that is your choice. However as you have probably gathered from the collective opinions voiced here using underage characters for such material is considered taboo; so don't expect to start any trends.
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion here   Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:05 pm

i personally have no problem with kids or teenagers being eaten in stories. ya, its sad, but who cares, they do not even exist!
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion here   Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:19 pm

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i personally have no problem with kids or teenagers being eaten in stories. ya, its sad, but who cares, they do not even exist!

It isn't so much that seeing a child die in a story is more "sad" than the death of an older person.

It is the idea of putting a child in a vore scene...something that will be viewed as fetish material by a decent chunk of the readers, and regarded as the same by people on the outside looking in. It just crosses into some very dark territory. Territory that quite a few members of the community are uncomfortable with.

If it has to happen, do it off-screen. No overly-detailed scenes of the actual eating. That is at least slightly more tolerable.
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion here   Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:26 pm

Also, i don't think it's that serious, maybe because this is a fantasy world, or maybe because I'm a Chinese and there are children dying horribly every day.
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion here   Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:34 pm

Estern kiddo wrote:
Also, i don't think it's that serious, maybe because this is a fantasy world, or maybe because I'm a Chinese and there are children dying horribly every day.

Once again. It isn't about a young character dying.

Its about a child being put into a fetish-related scene. It crosses into some very...uncomfortable territory.

Also, its likely to give people "Crisis and Scarecrow" flashbacks, and some of us are still just getting over that book.
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion here   Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:41 pm

Estern kiddo wrote:
Also, i don't think it's that serious, maybe because this is a fantasy world, or maybe because I'm a Chinese and there are children dying horribly every day.

To be blunt; to most people in this community putting someone underage into a fetish scene and have them play a direct role is bordering on pedophillia.
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion here   Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:41 pm

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Estern kiddo wrote:
Also, i don't think it's that serious, maybe because this is a fantasy world, or maybe because I'm a Chinese and there are children dying horribly every day.

To be blunt; to most people in this community putting someone underage into a fetish scene and have them play a direct role is bordering on pedophillia.

this. SO VERY MUCH. THIS.
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion here   Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:47 pm

Forget it then, if it turned out to be a bad idea, thank you for paying attention anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion here   Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:28 pm

well I think its just being not open minded at all. I mean...many of you guys are complaining about the "lack of reality" of felarya. now that we are discussing about involving childs, you guys are saying no? I dont get it.

I'd say: It's not a yes or a no. It's the author's choice and he can do whatever he wants with his stories.
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion here   Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:37 pm

Krisexy it's not the lack of reality in this case it's the putting underage characters in fetish related material.
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion here   Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:45 pm

If you want to use a child for a Felarya story, proceed with caution. It's mostly the type of story you are going to write that will dictate whether this will disturbing or charming.
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion here   Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:48 pm

its not like I'm a defender of this cause but...

who here was saying that felarya wasnt a vore centred world anymore?

decide.
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion here   Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:07 pm

Krisexy26 wrote:
its not like I'm a defender of this cause but...

who here was saying that felarya wasnt a vore centred world anymore?

decide.

It isn't about whether Felarya is a vore-world or not.

Its about the fact that putting a minor in a fetish situation is wrong.

If the child eating is done off-screen, or if it is played up in a non-fetish way, it can potentially be tolerated. But a true vore-story, like El Portero or Prinnydood writes, where it is described in detail, and meant to appeal to those who are reading a story for the fetish...no, you can't have kids involved in that. That comes very close to child-porn, depending on how the story is written, and who it is meant to appeal to.
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