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PostSubject: Where's the Development?   Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:06 pm

There's hardly any development anymore. Hardly anyone comments or creates ideas these days. I do appreciate the lack of arguments and fighting, its a big improvement. However, I urge people to try and be creative, take some inspiration from whatever you see IRL, and see if there's a way to make a neat idea, or when you have time, think about where felarya can improve instead of spending all day in the chatbox roleplaying.

Sorry if this sounds rude.

PS. I'm not saying its bad to have fun in the chatbox, that's what its THERE for, I'm just saying that we could use a little more effort to develop the world.
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PostSubject: Re: Where's the Development?   Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:23 pm

Well, I think with that part about roleplaying in italics, it does sound rather rude, yes. ^^; But I hear what you're saying. I myself would be happy with more comments on my, and everyone else's work. It's one of the reasons I started the Community Spells and Community Artifacts threads. And while it would also be lovely to see more people coming up with ideas, I think, on the other hand, you can't really, I guess, inspire people to be good at something they're not? Or like, come up with ideas they don't have. It's kind of a dilemma. >.<
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PostSubject: Re: Where's the Development?   Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:49 pm

Yeah it takes work, but you Nyaha have been finding places that don't have very many entries, locations that are rather sparse when it comes to entries (like the Tundra). We should find more similar places that lack creatures and plants and other things like that (maybe make a "known tribes" index for regions?) and flesh them out.

Take the tundra for example, what kinds of things would be suited for a frozen wasteland? what might help make it unique?

As for the italics part, yeah I thought that might be the case, but I see like ten people on there regularly, which is awesome, but I don't see them commenting on the forum at all. Unless its in the "what do you think about the avatar/signature" thread. If we took that down there'd be NO forum activity.

All I'm suggesting is that we work together more as a community to keep developing Felarya in some way.
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PostSubject: Re: Where's the Development?   Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:06 pm

It doesn't help there are people on the forum like Shady who will respond to most topics like something has climbed into his arse and died, certainly has killed my enthusiasm for bringing up subjects for conversation by 40%
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PostSubject: Re: Where's the Development?   Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:32 pm

I think we're just in a lull, it's happened before and it wasn't a big deal. With any luck the idea production will ramp up again soon enough.
Although personally, I think this whole thing needs to go up a level, i.e. better organization, a snazzier website, maybe an OVA. The kind of stuff that naturally happens to "projects" that reach a large enough scale, e.g. Black Rock Shooter, Kotoura-san, and Battle Angel Alita.
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PostSubject: Re: Where's the Development?   Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:17 pm

an animated video would be nice. how many people who like felarya could draw, animate, or shade? I've often wondered what would happen if we could pull a team together and produce some kind of animated video, however short. some of us could even have a go at voice acting if we wanted, but that takes SKILL, and TIME.

Shady's just blunt, try not to let it get to you too much. If you think he's bad though, then you have no idea how it was back in the day when we had W3K, Flare (I don't remember her being too bad), L'Ryn, Zion was a bit harsh too, there were tons of trolls, or people who would flame.

Though when it comes to copyright, the unfortunate thing is, if we produce an animation, even if we claim a Creative Commons, it doesn't mean shit if someone else takes our idea and PAYS for a copyright, because to REALLY own something you need to pay for the copyright itself. I wouldn't want some studio finding our content, copying all of it, paying for a copyright, and then writing us off.
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PostSubject: Re: Where's the Development?   Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:02 am

Hasn't Karbo got a form of copyright for Felarya itself though? He has created mangas which is actual property of value as money is exchanged for them, and there is great evidence that this property already exists (and has an audience who would back that up) which could dampen any executive plans to steal the intellectual property. If your going to steal something, you proberly woulden't want to touch something something that the creator is already making money from (no matter how small it may be) as it could easily go down as clear theft.
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PostSubject: Re: Where's the Development?   Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:36 am

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It doesn't help there are people on the forum like Shady who will respond to most topics like something has climbed into his arse and died, certainly has killed my enthusiasm for bringing up subjects for conversation by 40%

Pointing fingers isn't helping anyone, DarkOne. I have to suggest you don't.

For what it's worth, Para, before thinking vidjas, you should realize we haven't gotten a lot done lately- if we can't get a little discussion underway, franchises should be out of the question. I told that to kodyd and I tells ya too.

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PostSubject: Re: Where's the Development?   Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:52 am

Maybe not videos, but I've taken an interest in a game engine called M.U.G.E.N. lately. If I ever get a laptop and enough motivation, I might try my hand at creating custom characters for the game, namely my own OCs. I could probably try Felarya canon characters in it, too, unless someone else wants to try it before me. Which might be a better idea.

Just brainstorming here.
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PostSubject: Re: Where's the Development?   Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:34 pm

Lol maybe make a unique felarya video game that centers more around the world itself and not be so focused with vore, and upload the video somewhere? Other than Kiki, one of my friends is very good at making video games. (ExpiredPopsicle doesn't count)

Though anyway, if we're going to get anywhere we need to get people motivated to have more discussions. Even if they post an idea that sucks, no one should insult it, this isn't ye olden days. Besides, having terrible ideas is all the more reason to post, isn't it? This is a FORUM, where we critique and help each other develop, in addition to the world. Not being good at ideas is all the more reason to post. We'll help you iron it out.

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PostSubject: Re: Where's the Development?   Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:48 pm

I've mentioned before that, if at the time I graduate I'm still majoring in Game Design and still have the motivation (fingers crossed!), I'd like to try my hand at a Felarya MMO / sandbox RPG thingy.

And Nyaha, I'm anxious to see what characters you create!
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PostSubject: Re: Where's the Development?   Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:27 am

As some people might remember, I am an animation student, I have the means to create an animation or help make an animation if I really wanted to, but as pointed out it would take alot of time. And it would distract me from using such skills in gettig a career.

And quite frankly, when very few people here as much as looks at the art thread anymore, I question if anyone here would really be interested in such a thing
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PostSubject: Re: Where's the Development?   Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:42 am

You gotta do what's good for you, DO.

Felarya is supposed to be a hobby. Unless you're 100% certain you can afford, time and effort and money-wise, to dedicate yourself to doing that, I'd say don't. We ain't got anything you want that we can give ya for it.

In short, DO, do it if you feel like it... but the way you put it, well, I can't say I'd recommend you to.

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PostSubject: Re: Where's the Development?   Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:29 pm

There are two other people who I know would probably be willing to make felarya animations: Saftkeur, and TheWiking2000 both on DA. The latter already has a few felarya models, himself.

I'd be willing to help model, but I'm no good at textures.

Anyway, when I said development, I wasn't talking about animations and other stuff like games, what kiki does. I meant like ideas and effort people put into making ideas, good or bad, and commenting and critiquing on those ideas.
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PostSubject: Re: Where's the Development?   Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:03 pm

I actually use the role playing to come up with ideas and flesh them out. It's the main way I make characters and places. sweatdrop However, my creative juices have kind of run dry for the moment. I have some small ideas for magic items and a rather interesting idea for a random temple that would prove to be very interesting. I also want to look into Psionics a bit more and define what it can/can't do, how it's used, ect.

However, I haven't been able to find the energy to do anything on those ideas due to my classes. I'm taking English Composition 2, Geology, Speech, and an American History class. The Speech and English classes alone give me a ton of homework, and when I finish it I really don't feel like writing down a description for something. @.@
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PostSubject: Re: Where's the Development?   Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:27 pm

Well I'm working on a character who's going to be using all kinds of magical artifacts and weapons. I can post some of the ideas I have and even come up with a new group that specializes in the use of artifact magic if that's the kind of stuff you guys are looking for.
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PostSubject: Re: Where's the Development?   Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:03 am

Yeah I believe Nyaha has a thread for artifacts and trinkets, magical or otherwise. That's a start! Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Where's the Development?   Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:24 pm

Yeah, both links are in my sig. :3 Check 'em out, post some feedback or ideas, maybe. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Where's the Development?   Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:16 am

It's getting hard for me to defend the felarya community these days. I want to argue that the Felarya community is interested in creating a vast world filled with danger and interesting characters and not souley fap material.

But I simply can't do that when most of the community is more interested in taking part in chatboard roleplays based around ridiculously overpowered characters that are mostly concerned with having fantasy sex with each other.

It's not so much that people here are spending most their time roleplaying, it's just that the content isn't really what I associate Felarya with.

It means that if I want to defend Felarya, I have to pretend the community doesn't exist and just point at Karbo's work, or risk coming off as a liar
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PostSubject: Re: Where's the Development?   Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:50 am

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It's getting hard for me to defend the felarya community these days. I want to argue that the Felarya community is interested in creating a vast world filled with danger and interesting characters and not souley fap material.

But I simply can't do that when most of the community is more interested in taking part in chatboard roleplays based around ridiculously overpowered characters that are mostly concerned with having fantasy sex with each other.

It's not so much that people here are spending most their time roleplaying, it's just that the content isn't really what I associate Felarya with.

It means that if I want to defend Felarya, I have to pretend the community doesn't exist and just point at Karbo's work, or risk coming off as a liar

I've been noticing this as well >.< The sad thing is that this has been rampant throughout Felarya's history as far as I remember. The problem is... its worse now than it was back then.
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PostSubject: Re: Where's the Development?   Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:33 am

Back in the day we really didn't have on-chatboard fap role plays. We were discussing ideas.

Kudos to DarkOne for saying what I didn't really have the balls to. In fact, if I might be so blunt, its to the point now that I utterly loathe those who are spending all their day in the chat box fap-RPing, and complaining that they cant come up with a single good idea, and therefore are not going to bother posting.

There's so many things wrong with that statement, such as giving up before they started, or specifically because they haven't even tried to even post or come up with anything.

There's also the fact that this is a forum, its here for people to help critique each other and make ideas better. We have more active users now than ever, and all anyone does is fap in the chatbox!

Get off the chatbox, and start helping to build the universe you love. Or do you love it? You're just here for the fap-RPing? Maybe I'm going to far here, but I need to express what I'm thinking here, because until people have the guts to post any ideas, especially the bad ones, we're never going to get anywhere. I realize its hard without Cliff, AJ, Jaette-Troll, Sean_Okotami, or the other oldies here to always did the brainstorming for us, but we need to step it up and try harder to build this community. Don't be afraid of posting terrible ideas, we're supposed to be a community that supports each other.

---Now that that rant is over---

Now get out there and post your ideas. Don't have any? Make some up.

Here are some tips:

What area do you like? What area of Felarya could use some more life?
Are there any social or political issues you see in any society, Negav, Fairy, Dridder, etc.

Start from that. Then go a bit deeper. What areas in particular are lacking? Plants for the Desert or Tundra? (Yes they have plants in the desert Razz)
What plants do you like? Are they missing fruit, or some plant with a resource that can be exploited. Figure out how you can make that plant dangerous, whether it eats people, or poisons them, or petrifies them or anything.

Then brainstorm other ideas and inspiration, analyze what you have so far to figure out what you may need, and write it up even if it's short. We'll help you with the rest.

Maybe we're missing a region? The southern area of Felarya's Map is devoid of regions, and JT's Yelana Spires, and my Shatterock Caldera don't mean you cant post an idea either. Making a region is tough though, because you need to figure out what kind of regions can smoothly transition to.

For example, the Akaptor Desert - you don't want a Rain Forest on the other side, or a Tundra, or some other landscape that doesn't make any sense. Something Arid, maybe tropical could be next to the Akaptor Desert.

What kinds of resources are found in the jungle? What kinds or resources could felarya use? (We have no common metals like iron and copper as I recall, we need some of those deposits actually.)

Follow the same pattern as before to write up an idea, and all this I posted I just analyzed and wrote up. People are making this way more difficult than it needs to be. Please don't make me have to be like this again, I don't want to make those of you in the chatbox seem worthless, but you NEED to get your-selves up and help the rest of us on the Forum try to build Felarya.


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PostSubject: Re: Where's the Development?   Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:35 am

You were always better at saying things than I was, Bael.
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PostSubject: Re: Where's the Development?   Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:49 pm

This is a stimulating, challenging thread! While I would argue that Felarya is what you make of it, and that those people who indulge in chatbox RPs have just as much right to be there as the envelope-pushers in the rest of the forum, it certainly resonates with me personally. For too long I've just remained complacent about the diversity of Felarya, content to let those more gifted and creative cook up a myriad of new ideas. I now see that it's the wrong attitude to take - I need to be the qualities I want to see from others. After all, given I'm not into vore, the uniquity of this universe is what got me interested in Felarya in the first place, so I should do my best to repay and replenish that. Smile

If I may ask, are there people out there who would be willing to act as a sort of preliminary sounding board, just to make sure I don't make a complete fool of myself in public?
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PostSubject: Re: Where's the Development?   Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:39 pm

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It's getting hard for me to defend the felarya community these days. I want to argue that the Felarya community is interested in creating a vast world filled with danger and interesting characters and not souley fap material.

But I simply can't do that when most of the community is more interested in taking part in chatboard roleplays based around ridiculously overpowered characters that are mostly concerned with having fantasy sex with each other.

Once more, it seems to boil down to there being different parts in the community. To me, "the community" is mostly composed of those who contribute world-building ideas (here or on dA), and those who contribute quality pictures and stories (generally on dA).

For various reasons, many of the best writers and artists contribute on dA and spend little or no time on the forum. That, in itself, is not necessarily a problem; what they contribute is of great value.

I too happen to get slightly irritated by over-powered one-dimensional fetish characters, but I mostly just stay away from them and focus on the quality content instead. Besides, if people want to rp, that's up to them. So is the manner in which they do it. (Within the rules! No pornography.) It is neither desirable nor feasible to hound or pester them into changing.

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It means that if I want to defend Felarya, I have to pretend the community doesn't exist and just point at Karbo's work, or risk coming off as a liar

That's an exaggeration. There are plenty of good quality contributors who help to develop Felarya through their work, notably their stories.


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This is a stimulating, challenging thread! While I would argue that Felarya is what you make of it, and that those people who indulge in chatbox RPs have just as much right to be there as the envelope-pushers in the rest of the forum, it certainly resonates with me personally. For too long I've just remained complacent about the diversity of Felarya, content to let those more gifted and creative cook up a myriad of new ideas. I now see that it's the wrong attitude to take - I need to be the qualities I want to see from others. After all, given I'm not into vore, the uniquity of this universe is what got me interested in Felarya in the first place, so I should do my best to repay and replenish that. Smile

Well put. Smile

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If I may ask, are there people out there who would be willing to act as a sort of preliminary sounding board, just to make sure I don't make a complete fool of myself in public?

I'm not sure I'm best qualified, and I'm sure whatever you come up with will be good, but sure: I'll take a look at your ideas.

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PostSubject: Re: Where's the Development?   Tue Mar 26, 2013 3:10 pm

I'd love to give your ideas a look, too, Kindle, especially if you'll do the same for me every so often! Very Happy I may not have the greatest skill in criticism around here, though I do have my moments, and I am creative. If you're missing something, I'm sure my brain will pick up something you can fill it in with. I'm also excellent with grammar (though you seem to be even better with words than I am >.> *jealous stare*) so I can help there as well. ^_^

Don't let the facetious attitude and emoticons fool you, I'm very serious about this.

Also, one note: if you have a problem with the fap RPing, please help move it off of the chatbox and onto pads or Chatzy; the forumotion Terms of Service state sexual content is prohibited, and we don't want to lose our forum now. ^^; But y'know, don't be a mood-killing ****blocker about it because then nobody will listen. ^^;
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