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PostSubject: Satelite Bases?   Sun Aug 17, 2014 4:34 pm

So I've been thinking about Isolon Fist and the fact we only know they have one military base in particular on all of Felarya. <.< That sounds illogical even to non-military person like me. Why don't we at least allude to the existance of non-specified bases around Felarya in the wilderness. I know some may cite the fact the Vishmital tried this and failed, but to be fair they built way, way, way away from where they should have and also made it pretty big and stick out. I'm talking about small "stop overs" or little heavily camouflaged bunkers with weapon's caches and little nooks to hide in. Maybe you could have one or two with weapons banks or storage for Jet Bikes and other things but mostly focus hinting at the existence of these places as places where Isolon Fist personnel can get to duck inside quickly sometimes with civilians in toe. Or when they become abandoned they can serve the same purpose as a temples: Places with loads of loot to attract bandits and other opportunists.
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PostSubject: Re: Isolon Satelite Bases   Sun Aug 17, 2014 6:06 pm

The wiki menctions 'shelters' placed around the Chomikai commons, the surronding forest outside Negav still within the Isolon Eye.

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Across the commons are a certain number of small underground facilities built as shelters where to fall back in case of danger. They typically have narrow entrances and a robust structure with small embrasures where to survey the outside. Some of them are little more than barely developed caves, while other look like bunkers equipped with a water purification system, a food storage room, beds and weapons. These safehouses can only be accessed by those who have a key, namely members of the Isolon fist or adventurers with a special accreditation.
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PostSubject: Re: Isolon Satelite Bases   Mon Aug 18, 2014 1:51 pm

Expansion in felarya is really difficult. The vishmital had one base out near the akaptor desert, but that got overrun/abandoned I believe. Its on the map, there's just no information about other than what we see.
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PostSubject: Re: Isolon Satelite Bases   Mon Aug 18, 2014 2:47 pm

Why is this in the Harpies and Sphinxes forum? This has nothing to do with Harpies and Sphinxes.
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PostSubject: Re: Isolon Satelite Bases   Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:22 pm

Moved to ideas and discussions forum Razz also, expansion maybe difficult but there's not good clarification why as of yet. But setting up outpost sounds like , especially to the ones in the jedi's description can be a fairly easy task as long as it's not noticable or dragged away fro mthe land by a dimensional incursion. To be fair though. Islon fist don't really operate outside negav much, what you might be looking for jedi is mercenaries or other groups that maybe contracted by them from time to time. How ever This goes with the issue of "unsung villages and towns" that are not there only because someone hasn't made them up in a story. You can be a precursor to that and expand on it like i'm trying to (hence why i'm working on why the vishmitals can logically set up a large FOB in the middle of a plain and then abandon it.) But yeah, i invite you to either try to make a up a method or at least something akin to a report of how and why military oriented organizations could have little pockets and who knows, maybe even some controlling entire villages and towns for a reason. This continent that we all look at is 4x bigger than europe according to karbo. So use your imagination of how many outfits or organization that are heard or unheard of could be doing around the landscape.

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PostSubject: Re: Isolon Satelite Bases   Tue Aug 19, 2014 7:09 pm

Dark One wrote:
The wiki menctions 'shelters' placed around the Chomikai commons, the surronding forest outside Negav still within the Isolon Eye.

Huh I forgot about those. Though if I'm not mistaken they're in the Eye's range right? So won't be using them unless there's a second "Dary of Destruction" like there was before the Eye's founding.

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Islon fist don't really operate outside negav much
Why not? I mean I can some practicality in not sending your most valuable units to who knows where for no reason but I can think of several reasons you'd need to send Fist personel out away from Negav. Escorting Envoys, Arcaeologists/Researchers or diplomatic personnel, recovery of precious cargo (as we saw in the manga) and personel (as I'm sure you as a Marine will agree for sure) not to mention the whole morrale thing. I'm sure there's a unit of the Isolon Fist that's specefically sent out to go bring back civilians and other displaced peoples. Not to mention, I imagine , ones who have to have semi-permenent locations, like those who are boisltering the Ascarlin Mine.

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But yeah, i invite you to either try to make a up a method or at least something akin to a report of how and why military oriented organizations could have little pockets and who knows, maybe even some controlling entire villages and towns for a reason.

O.O That's a brilliant idea! Something like that can benefit both sides. Small villages who need fire power and the villages can supply raw recruits and supplies and such. I never would have thought of that by myself, thanks! I may add some allusions in Clare's Quest sometime about that. Even if it's just Tam talking about it.
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PostSubject: Re: Isolon Satelite Bases   Tue Aug 19, 2014 7:41 pm

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Misty wrote:
Islon fist don't really operate outside negav much
Why not? I mean I can some practicality in not sending your most valuable units to who knows where for no reason but I can think of several reasons you'd need to send Fist personel out away from Negav. Escorting Envoys, Arcaeologists/Researchers or diplomatic personnel, recovery of precious cargo (as we saw in the manga) and personel (as I'm sure you as a Marine will agree for sure) not to mention the whole morrale thing. I'm sure there's a unit of the Isolon Fist that's specefically sent out to go bring back civilians and other displaced peoples. Not to mention, I imagine , ones who have to have semi-permenent locations, like those who are boisltering the Ascarlin Mine.

like i said "much" what you said were legitimate reasons for them going out there and doing that. As a person that knows military logistics. I for sure think the Islon fist would be more geared and strategically oriented in protecting the vaules that the magiocrats hold outside of negav then actual rescue operation or town defenses and such (saying said towns don't have any significance like vaulable resources to them).However, as the magiocrats are rather...Selfish, Id see them doing more of the protecting, and investigating with people or associates that are more favourable to the magiocrats then just out of sheer whim and chivalry mixed with righteous causes. (doesn't mean there's no units in that army that don't do that.)  That's whole idea behind the NMRB and Adventure corps and why the Magiocrats would have so much distaste over those associations. It makes Freelancers look like the good guys because they're willing to do more albeit for money or some sort of currency, then when the magiocrats would send their personal army to go in and do the same for their logical reasoning. In that regard, it makes a economical and a little of political rivalry with some High-end and self sufficient mercs (who knows maybe those well paid by the vishmitals) or adventure enclaves, that are comparable with the islon fist and it was somewhat intended by my design to be that way. As it would fit more of the innerpolotics of negav trying to out wit each other on this kind of level. Though by all means, go ahead and make a story,fluff,or biography of such of an outstanding Islonfist unit wanting to multi-manage small outpost every or heck even a subterran base outside but near negav. Just keep in mind those Military aspects that i mentioned that need to be fleshed out anyways so here's a good start that your curious thoughts suggested. The good thing about felarya is that in a way. Most military organizations are like pioneers and colonist of old. They might be new, they might be experienced. They might be good, or they might be outright Dastardly, but they're exploring and setting their feet on a soil filled with the romance of adventure and are ready to make a mark of themselves with it. Treat them like you would a character you want to heavily developed and have some fun telling their legendary stories as a unit, a person, or struggling civilization that's willing to take on the hardships of felarya and make something out of it.

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PostSubject: Re: Isolon Satelite Bases   Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:14 am

Actually, the Isolon Fist DO engage in operations outside of Negav if you read this here paragraph:

Da Wiki wrote:
The security of the ascarlin mines is one of their main roles, though. The shipments of rare minerals and ascarlin can be worth an unfathomable amount of money, and follow a set route between Negav and the mines. This has made them a prime target for some of the more brazen, and well-armed bandit groups. Patrolling the region around Negav in the eye's range ( or what is the admitted range for an average predator ) is also part of their duty, in order to hold a visible presence and make the numerous bandits and thugs roaming the zone queasy, and keep it relatively safe for commoners. They sometimes engage and drive away predators who stray too close to the city as well. With their excellent training, they are well capable of beating even a giant naga. While dangerous, those later missions present the advantage of striking the imagination of Negavians and bolster the morale of the city. Of course the opposite is also true in case of failure, and they almost never conduct such operations outside of the Eye's range where the risks quickly offset any potential gains.

So yeah, they do engage in escorting cargo, by which they mean shipments of ores and gems from the mines.  Furthermore, it's not really been set in stone yet, but I think Karbo hinted that the Isolon Fist is sometimes sent in other places, usually to snag some resources for Negav.  You probably wouldn't know either of these because, as I just love to beat that dead horse, the wiki is very poorly organized, and any valuable information that should be there isn't.


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PostSubject: Re: Isolon Satelite Bases   Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:29 am

Like i said shady. "much" that's an important word as it doesn't mean it absences their presence entirely. I would assume a city military like that would be doing those things as you just aforementioned and that I have stated before in my previous paragraph. (because that makes logical sense for a city state military to do right?) I was referring to other things they wouldn't be doing that isn't directly involved with them or their magistrates as worth value.

Example being: "So we'll set up a rapid initiative unit around nekomura because we were told by our superiors that it represents an economic asset for negav. Where as village X and town Y which are 10 miles apart from each other and nekomura don't hold the highest strategic priority. Wherefore if they come under attack or need a V.I.P for escort, we'll have to take that into consideration and the approved of by command before we send our men because that mission might not necessarily be the best option for our time,lives, and resources." The debriefing room of the officers has a wild tea party of general approval afterwards.

(That's how I depict most Islonfist Officers would react and that's what I was implying to jedi. I did how ever say that not all of them would act like this and it is in his freedom to depict a unit how he wants it too, since he's writing about them.)

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So yeah, they do engage in escorting cargo, by which they mean shipments of ores and gems from the mines. Furthermore, it's not really been set in stone yet, but I think Karbo hinted that the IslonFist is sometimes sent in other places, usually to snag some resources from Negav. You probably wouldn't know either of these because, as I just love to beat that dead horse, the wiki is very poorly organized, and any valuable information that should be there isn't.

I figured much. Once i'm done with the my other projects on here, I'm really going to organize and clean up what factions have a capable military or paramilitary. (at least the known, to be known, or should be known ones) and make them more reader comprehensive and organized since that's my forte along with Sci-fi. It can be better written out.

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PostSubject: Re: Isolon Satelite Bases   Wed Sep 09, 2015 10:31 pm

How about the Miratans?
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PostSubject: Re: Isolon Satelite Bases   Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:25 am

Lockheed X-17 wrote:
How about the Miratans?

Well we could develop them out except for one thing:

Da Wiki wrote:
Miratans belong to Randomdude. This idea have been submitted before the November 15th, 2009 and their author didn't approve the disclaimer. Thus you must ask their permission before any use.

We ain't allowed to make official modifications to any article that bears a signiture like this, even if the person never responds. ^^; Outdated system that's sorta holding back some things but ultimately is a fair deal to the author. Sorry, Lockheed. Though thanks for remidning me of this. I could use one of these satelite bases that's been forgoten for some fun stuff in my RPs and stories. Also I need to compile dats "Stabs" style and try and rework it with new knowledge I and others have gathered. study
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