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PostSubject: Can Felarya cure cancer?   Fri May 08, 2015 6:57 am

....yeah. That's about as subtle as this is gonna get. We all know that there's some magical property in the dirt that heals peoples' injuries (to a point), gives them more energy, makes them feel a bit younger, things like that... but what if someone with a terminal illness, say, something in their blood, was whisked away to Felarya? What would happen to them?

Would their condition improve? Assuming they don't just expire like they were going to, would Felarya, over a certain period of time (say a few weeks to a few months) heal them completely, making them healthy again? Or would the sickness always be there on some level, but Felarya's effects would make it barely a concern anymore?

Or, is it more likely that the victim would be kept alive by Felarya's magic, but their condition would never improve? Even if the sickness didn't progress any more, would their body remain ravaged forever? Would they always be as sick as they were when they entered the world, trapped in this living hell?

Just some food for thought... depending on your guys' input, I MIGHT whip up a story centered around this concept. We'll see.
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PostSubject: Re: Can Felarya cure cancer?   Fri May 08, 2015 9:38 am

That's... something I'd been thinking about, too.

We know parasites and poisons don't mind the dirt. But since we've added so much BS about the supercharged immune system, we gotta admit, that under the current explanation of the healing effect, it would be unlikely, unless the dirt's ability to enhance the immune system also included making it capable of identifying cancerous cells.

http://www.cancer.org/treatment/treatmentsandsideeffects/treatmenttypes/immunotherapy/immunotherapy-immune-system

So if you think the dirt boosts your immune system, there's a shot it also helps fight cancer. Given the risk of cancer increases with age (simply because the older you are, the more times the cells in your body have divided, risking cancer every time), and we've never heard of predators getting cancer, it wouldn't be unfounded to assume that the Felaryan dirt does fight cancer.

Then again we could also assume predators do get cancer and never notice, because they don't have a healthcare system, and only notice anything is wrong when they die because they don't have enough energy to fight off a kensha beast.



If on the other hand you think the Felarya health benefits are magical and just a blanket term, then since cancer's a "disease", it could be prevented, fought, and even beat by the dirt. It could also be that if you fight it too late, cancer still wins.

But being trapped in this living hell, still ravaged? No, not likely, unless you consider the dirt would stabilize the progress of the disease. Which would be rather odd, it only happens with old age and missing bits far as I know. That's not little- old age can be a world of pain, even without cancer.



Alternatively, you could say cancer is not different enough from healthy cells for the dirt to do anything about it. In that case, you'd have a very healthy person with a very healthy cancer that would kill them like a predator does to its prey. And that's the circle of life.



If it works, I'd expect something on the level of a complete remission, rather than a partial remission, but again, this is uncharted territory, Nick.

http://www.webmd.com/cancer/remission-what-does-it-mean

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If someone were to arrive in Felarya and found the dirt doesn't do it all, though, I'd wager they could always look for local healers. There may be more advanced medical doctors (or priests of Pelor Razz ) in Felarya, with different resources to deal with what ails you, and if not, magic can do weird stuff. Could be worth a shot, in spite of the numerous snake oil salesmen, acupunturists, homeopaths, swindlers and quacks you'd obviously find.

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PostSubject: Re: Can Felarya cure cancer?   Fri May 08, 2015 9:51 am

I would guess it depends on what kind of cancer it is, cancers caused by environmental factors may very well be healed but I am not so sure about inherited cancer cases...can Felarya's magic correct flawed genes?...sounds far stretched to me.

But given that inherited cancers are much rarer than environmental caused ones, I would think most cancers could be healed given the right amount of time. (I would bet drinking Felaryan mineral water would increase the odds.)


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PostSubject: Re: Can Felarya cure cancer?   Fri May 08, 2015 9:54 am

You probably already know what my opinion is, but I think this whole magical soil and water needs to be overhauled, because it accrued way too much baggage over the years and needs some fat trimmed. I'm of the mentality that it shouldn't grant one perfect immunity to illness and disease, but rather just makes them more resilient against them. I think immunity to disease closes a lot of avenues for potentially interesting plots. Parasites as an alternative just doesn't cut it for me. True, they function just about the same as a disease in this context, but I always thought of parasitic infections as a more rare and "advanced" form of diseases since you need to find a way to extract or kill it, which probably is going to involve more elaborate method than a bed and chicken noodle soup for a week. I think Karbo even mused changing it so it doesn't make you immune to diseases on the ground that illnesses and infections are always evolving or something.

The debate between whether or not the soil can cure cancer is one that probably will never get a definitive answer since there are equally good arguments on both sides. Me, I'm more of the mentality that the soil can't cure it, but healers potentially could, but it would be a very difficult treatment, especially if it's at an advanced stage.
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PostSubject: Re: Can Felarya cure cancer?   Fri May 08, 2015 10:26 am

How are you...Able to cure an exhaggerated mutation that yourbody produces by imbalancing chemicals. It's not something caused by attack. It's your body rejecting certain cells and growing them out of proportion because that's what it thinks it's supposed to do while it's harmful. Darkone saying it's inherited. Can't really stop those as your body is fighting against itself. However onex externally caused by UV rays or similar. Sure.

Also this doesn't sound like a story, Just saying.

(EDIT:Ideas for stories would be...In the ideas section right?)
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PostSubject: Re: Can Felarya cure cancer?   Fri May 08, 2015 11:27 am

Bluehorizon wrote:

Also this doesn't sound like a story, Just saying.

(EDIT:Ideas for stories would be...In the ideas section right?)

Oh, whoops. Sorry. I didn't think this was just for writing stories themselves. Good to know there is a place made specifically for sharing ideas and brainstorming.
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PostSubject: Re: Can Felarya cure cancer?   Sun May 17, 2015 8:39 am

Maybe it's too late for this, but we don't mind, man, really. It's for stories and discussing stories too, as it has happened before.

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PostSubject: Re: Can Felarya cure cancer?   Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:41 am

Been a while and I missed this, but if you're still looking for information it is something we've discussed in the past. Most of these are rather old and the people who spoke to them in the past no longer abouts, however it should help you get a starting point on previous thoughts.

http://felarya.forumotion.com/t2750p345-general-q-and-a

http://felarya.forumotion.com/t3551-negav-development-healthcare

http://felarya.forumotion.com/t2118-what-counts-as-a-disease
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