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PostSubject: Discord channel for Felarya   Fri May 20, 2016 9:17 pm

How about we making a Discord channel for Felarya?

I think it would a good hangout place for Felarya fans, with voice chat support, multi sub-channels, and fancy stuffs like avatars. More importantly, it doesn't kick you out if you afk.

Plus, Discord also has a web app, so you access it everywhere without the need of the software installed, though the installed version would have better functions.

Aside from discussing about Felarya or other silly chit-chat, we can also have corners for artists, writers, or places for people to post their ideas.
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PostSubject: Re: Discord channel for Felarya   Tue May 24, 2016 9:16 pm

Yeah, so. Public apps. I know I say this over and over again, but I'll do it again. From Discord's T&S:

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Any data, text, graphics, photographs and their selection and arrangement, and any other materials uploaded to the Service by you is “Your Data.” You represent and warrant that Your Data is original to you and that you exclusively own the rights to such content, including the right to grant all of the rights and licenses in these Terms without the Company incurring any third party obligations or liability arising out of its exercise of such rights and licenses. All of Your Data is your sole responsibility and the Company is not responsible for any material that you upload, post, or otherwise make available. By uploading, distributing, transmitting or otherwise using Your Data with the Services, you grant to us a nonexclusive, transferable, royalty-free, sublicensable, and worldwide license to use Your Data, subject to the Company’s Privacy Policy.

No artist or writer is going to willingly give that up. "Nonexclusive, transferable, royalty-free, sublicensable, worldwide license"? Like... lol.

Oh, but don't worry, because like most things on the internet:

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Rules of Conduct and Usage
The Service provides communication channels such as forums, communities, or chat areas ("Communication Channels") designed to enable you to communicate with other Service users. The Company has no obligation to monitor these communication channels but it may do so in connection with providing the Service. The Company may also terminate or suspend your access to any Communication Channels at any time, without notice, for any reason. You acknowledge that any user content (including without limitation chats, postings, or materials posted by users) on the Communication Channels is neither endorsed nor controlled by us. The Company will not under any circumstances be liable for any activity within Communication Channels. The Company is not responsible for information that you choose to share on the Communication Channels, or for the actions of other users.As a condition of your use of the Service, and without limiting your other obligations under these Terms, you agree to comply with the restrictions and rules of use set forth in these Terms as well as any additional restrictions or rules (such as application-specific rules) set forth in the Service. As an example, you agree not to use the Service in order to:

   post, upload, transmit or otherwise disseminate information that is obscene, indecent, vulgar, pornographic, sexual or otherwise objectionable;

At least they're not empty? They do come right out and say it plainly. Sexual or otherwise objectionable. Not sure why they needed to specify pornographic with that restriction in place, but eh.
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PostSubject: Re: Discord channel for Felarya   Fri May 27, 2016 9:29 pm

Ah, okay then. At least, I think it's better than our auto-kicking chat box, but oh well.
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PostSubject: Re: Discord channel for Felarya   Sat May 28, 2016 4:12 am

Don't get me wrong, I'm in agreement with you. Just about anything would be better, but nearly everything forbids the content that Felarya is known for. Moreover, people will continue to use it because it's there and however bad it still works, it does still work ( in some fashion ). I could go on for days about the horrible design and security of this site.

I'd suggest Chatango but even it has a pretty restrictive T&S ( not to mention the interface is ancient and it's really no better than any other polling ajax solution):

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No Sexually Suggestive or Expicit Content. You may not post content that is sexually suggestive or sexually explicit, such as pornography, photographic or illustrated depictions of sex acts or sexually suggestive poses, or content that contains a link to an adult website. Examples of content prohibited under this provision are:
User profiles or in-converstaion images that depict (photographic or illustrated) sex acts or sexually suggestive poses.
User profiles containing erotic, sexually suggestive text or sexual terms.
User profiles offering or soliciting sex, web camming, or sexually explicit pictures.
Content that depicts (photographic or illustrated), describes, or encourages bestiality.
Images of sex toys.

Chatango reserves the right to investigate and take appropriate action against anyone who, in Chatango's sole discretion, violates this provision, including without limitation, reporting users posting or linking to child pornography to NCMEC.ORG, other authorities, removing the offending content from Chatango and blocking corresponding accounts.

No Explicitly Violent Content. You may not post content that depict gratuitous violence (realistic images of people or animals being killed or maimed, shot, stabbed, tortured or injured) in user profiles or in Chatango groups.

It's really just a fact of life. The only way you can really get around it is by using a nonlogging instant-protocol chat solution ( stuff that uses ajax is usually database driven, which means whoever owns the database can read your 'private' conversations ) or by hosting on services that don't care. That generally limits you to stuff hosted in the European Union, since they're more progressive on such topics ( they usually just limit child porn or really violent stuff ). It'd be nice if people weren't such sticks in the mud about this, and honestly a lot of people still use such services even though they have said content. The problem is, one angry person is all it takes to eliminate your community ( which I have also seen happen - for the curious, Blogspot, now a Google service IIRC killed quite a few groups; sexual themed blogs and the like could be removed without you being able to stop them if anyone reported them, even if you had an adult filter on ). The real problem with Discord ( they are a very nice solution ) is that T&S Exclusive License. I mean, REALLY? That's damn near heinous that the T&S requires you to sign over the rights for anything you display on Discord. Imagine an artist doing a livestream or something posting images to Discord, and having those images repurposed and used in ads for Discord with no payment or even acknowledgement to you. Anyone that has any notoriety as an artist knows exactly what this is like, they all have at least one story about it happening.


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PostSubject: Re: Discord channel for Felarya   Sun Jul 30, 2017 12:30 pm

There's a group of people from Eka's portal who have a pretty big discord channel, and nothing has happened to them so far.
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PostSubject: Re: Discord channel for Felarya   Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:15 pm

As far as discord goes they added to a NSFW feature to the application which requires you to say you're 18 in order to view any of the content. As well as long as it isn't kiddie pron, basically anything goes in those channels. I am part of pretty large discord server myself with Meltlandi. We had an incident where ages and stuff were brought up and out good friend the lawyer took the time to go through it. Essentially by Discords standard as long as it is set by the guidelines, if it is flagged NSFW and isn't illegal they take a hands back approach. As for roleplay age limit, in america at least it is a really grey area of the law. As long as their is no intent to meet in real life, and you are 13 years of age as is Discords required minimum there are no real regulations. On our server, we as a moral standard set the age to 18 and require people to in a specific channel write out how old they are. Once you have posted you gain a rank called Age Verified and you can no longer post or edit in that channel. It really is a nifty service, though the chat box here is perfectly functional and even if you AFK you can simply log back in and scroll up.
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