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Subject: No Giant or tiny characters in hell. Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:53 pm
So re-reading the tomes dealing with hell as a setting I am blown away by something I never noticed before: there's no giant preds or tinies in hell! Threes Succubi of giant and human size, dead humans, nekoes, Elves and Inus but not one giant Naga or even one tomthumb. I know this is probably either because of two reasons:
A: Karbo was distracted by succubus tits.
B: Tinies are never evil and Nagas and other giant man eaters rarely die and if they do most have no concept of heaven or hell.
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Subject: Re: No Giant or tiny characters in hell. Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:28 pm
I noticed this as well. My thoughts on it are that in both tomes (and Karbo's other pictures in Hell) are only a small insight into the daily life of Hell, so we don't see everything, keeping the air of mystery about Felarya. As for why tinies/tombthumbs aren't included I think its because that mostly all go to heaven and that the ones that are evil go to hell, but may be immediately eaten after being judged, or just die naturally via other means (crushed, entrapment, falling exc).
Explaining Nagas is a little bit more complex. Based on what Karbo has said about how the afterlife works on principals of good and evil. For example, Crisis wouldn't be "evil" for eating humans, even though the humans may perceive it as evil. To Crisis, it is just a part of daily life, even though she may feel a little bad if she ate a human with a sad story due to hunger pains or something along those lines. Now, if Crisis were to, say for example murder another giant Naga in cold blood, then that would certainly be an evil act and darken her spirit, increasing the likelihood of going to hell. I'm not exactly sure what would happen to her in Hell, but I'm guessing she would be tortured and eaten like the rest (probably by Messyan).
Giant(esses) in Felarya actually do have a concept of death and heaven and hell, though its rarely talked about. (Probably beacuse it is a dark topic in Felarya, and Karbo seems to be modernly keeping things more simplistic and light; which is something I don't like very much as Felarya is a very dark place when you really look into it). Messyan herself has roamed Felarya, and regularly meets with Crisis and Melany for games. So they obviously know what she is. Angels also come to Felarya, although its much more rare and usually to have the feeling of humans struggling in their stomachs.
On a final note, Faries certianly have a concept of death. Mysntel (the evil fairy spirit from the tomes) sealed her spirit in a powerful book as she was close to death to avoid going to hell with the succubusses. Her fear of death led to her possesing others and becoming very vengeful as she tried to get her body back.
TL;DR Karbo is certianly distracted by succubus tits.
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Subject: Re: No Giant or tiny characters in hell. Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:46 pm
giant preds and tinies could have their own heaven and hell.
........like robots.
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Subject: Re: No Giant or tiny characters in hell. Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:26 am
DarkOne wrote:
giant preds and tinies could have their own heaven and hell.
........like robots.
Bwahahahha! Two of my favorite sci-fi sitcoms ever and as good point. Felarya's heaven is multidimensional so why not its realm of hell? Also you must factor in that we don't know how Succubi are made but an early theory was they form from the souls of dead preds I believe? Been a while but I'm sure somebody posited something like that in lieu of the Incubus appears mates with Demoness and viola she eats him and gives birth to little succubi.
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Subject: Re: No Giant or tiny characters in hell. Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:29 am
jedi-explorer wrote:
Bwahahahha! Two of my favorite sci-fi sitcoms ever and as good point. Felarya's heaven is multidimensional so why not its realm of hell? Also you must factor in that we don't know how Succubi are made but an early theory was they form from the souls of dead preds I believe? Been a while but I'm sure somebody posited something like that in lieu of the Incubus appears mates with Demoness and viola she eats him and gives birth to little succubi.
Actually, I beleive karbo explained that Crisis and other giant preds would eventually die and go to heaven or hell, acoording to soul color.
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Subject: Re: No Giant or tiny characters in hell. Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:08 pm
dragon808tr wrote:
jedi-explorer wrote:
Bwahahahha! Two of my favorite sci-fi sitcoms ever and as good point. Felarya's heaven is multidimensional so why not its realm of hell? Also you must factor in that we don't know how Succubi are made but an early theory was they form from the souls of dead preds I believe? Been a while but I'm sure somebody posited something like that in lieu of the Incubus appears mates with Demoness and viola she eats him and gives birth to little succubi.
Actually, I beleive karbo explained that Crisis and other giant preds would eventually die and go to heaven or hell, acoording to soul color.
Soul Colors? I don't remember that theory. Can you link to it?
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Subject: Re: No Giant or tiny characters in hell. Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:47 pm
jedi-explorer wrote:
dragon808tr wrote:
jedi-explorer wrote:
Bwahahahha! Two of my favorite sci-fi sitcoms ever and as good point. Felarya's heaven is multidimensional so why not its realm of hell? Also you must factor in that we don't know how Succubi are made but an early theory was they form from the souls of dead preds I believe? Been a while but I'm sure somebody posited something like that in lieu of the Incubus appears mates with Demoness and viola she eats him and gives birth to little succubi.
Actually, I beleive karbo explained that Crisis and other giant preds would eventually die and go to heaven or hell, acoording to soul color.
Soul Colors? I don't remember that theory. Can you link to it?
It will take awhile to find, but in a nutshell, it was like this: Souls start off neutral, then change color (light and dark) depending on the morals of the user. For example, good deeds make the soul more pure, and evil deeds make it more corrupted or impure. At the end of life, the soul goes to Heaven or Hell, and to the corresponding part of the realm where it is most suitable for them. IE Heaven is about going where you feel best, and Hell is a corresponding punishment. On Felarya, it is a little different, as preds (such as Crisis) eating humans really isn't a bad thing, even though the humans surely disagree. However if Crisis were to do something cruel to her, like killing Vivian or Anna, then that would make her soul more dark.
I hope that kinda explained it. I'll look for the source though.
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Subject: Re: No Giant or tiny characters in hell. Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:40 pm
dragon808tr wrote:
jedi-explorer wrote:
Bwahahahha! Two of my favorite sci-fi sitcoms ever and as good point. Felarya's heaven is multidimensional so why not its realm of hell? Also you must factor in that we don't know how Succubi are made but an early theory was they form from the souls of dead preds I believe? Been a while but I'm sure somebody posited something like that in lieu of the Incubus appears mates with Demoness and viola she eats him and gives birth to little succubi.
Actually, I beleive karbo explained that Crisis and other giant preds would eventually die and go to heaven or hell, acoording to soul color.
Soul Colors? I don't remember that theory. Can you link to it?
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Subject: Re: No Giant or tiny characters in hell. Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:16 am
jedi-explorer wrote:
dragon808tr wrote:
jedi-explorer wrote:
Bwahahahha! Two of my favorite sci-fi sitcoms ever and as good point. Felarya's heaven is multidimensional so why not its realm of hell? Also you must factor in that we don't know how Succubi are made but an early theory was they form from the souls of dead preds I believe? Been a while but I'm sure somebody posited something like that in lieu of the Incubus appears mates with Demoness and viola she eats him and gives birth to little succubi.
Actually, I beleive karbo explained that Crisis and other giant preds would eventually die and go to heaven or hell, acoording to soul color.
Soul Colors? I don't remember that theory. Can you link to it?
((I think you double posted, but here is my reply again))
It will take awhile to find, but in a nutshell, it was like this: Souls start off neutral, then change color (light and dark) depending on the morals of the user. For example, good deeds make the soul more pure, and evil deeds make it more corrupted or impure. At the end of life, the soul goes to Heaven or Hell, and to the corresponding part of the realm where it is most suitable for them. IE Heaven is about going where you feel best, and Hell is a corresponding punishment. On Felarya, it is a little different, as preds (such as Crisis) eating humans really isn't a bad thing, even though the humans surely disagree. However if Crisis were to do something cruel to her, like killing Vivian or Anna, then that would make her soul more dark.
I hope that kinda explained it. I'll look for the source though.
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Subject: Re: No Giant or tiny characters in hell. Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:15 am
dragon808tr wrote:
I noticed this as well. My thoughts on it are that in both tomes (and Karbo's other pictures in Hell) are only a small insight into the daily life of Hell, so we don't see everything, keeping the air of mystery about Felarya.
Yes: This. Giants and tinies do go to the afterlife, but we simply don't often see them. (Tinies in Hell probably tend to get gobbled up by grateful human-sized demons.)
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Subject: Re: No Giant or tiny characters in hell. Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:18 pm
The chenobryos page mentions imps, they're apparently tiny demons with a twirly flight pattern. There are also Balef, which are a 6 inch tall demon race that can grow in size