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PostSubject: Re: Name your superhero/anime character and judge their chances!   Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:19 am

that's true too Laughing Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Name your superhero/anime character and judge their chances!   Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:34 pm

The question is, is the intelligent thing to do a wise thing? There is a difference between knowing how to do something and knowing when to do something.
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PostSubject: Re: Name your superhero/anime character and judge their chances!   Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:45 pm

A-Eadie wrote:
The question is, is the intelligent thing to do a wise thing? There is a difference between knowing how to do something and knowing when to do something.
Attempting to befriend a Predator should always be the last of your plans: The Predator's that make Human Friends are considered a rarity in the grands scheme for a reason, after all.

As such, when one cannot simply magically / technologically curbstomp a Predator, disabling it to a point that it cannot capture you is fine enough.
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PostSubject: Re: Name your superhero/anime character and judge their chances!   Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:50 pm

Malahite wrote:
A-Eadie wrote:
The question is, is the intelligent thing to do a wise thing? There is a difference between knowing how to do something and knowing when to do something.
Attempting to befriend a Predator should always be the last of your plans: The Predator's that make Human Friends are considered a rarity in the grands scheme for a reason, after all.

As such, when one cannot simply magically / technologically curbstomp a Predator, disabling it to a point that it cannot capture you is fine enough.
Befriending a predator might be a viable first option for a strong telepath. There isn't any mention at all of a defense against psychic abilities in Felarya, that I read.
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PostSubject: Re: Name your superhero/anime character and judge their chances!   Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:52 pm

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Befriending a predator might be a viable first option for a strong telepath. There isn't any mention at all of a defense against psychic abilities in Felarya, that I read.
Then the best bet is just mind-screwing the Predator, getting what information you need, and either:

A) Killing the predator.
B) Reduce it to a vegetative state.
C) 'Spare' it.
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PostSubject: Re: Name your superhero/anime character and judge their chances!   Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:53 am

Malahite wrote:
Raveolution wrote:

Befriending a predator might be a viable first option for a strong telepath. There isn't any mention at all of a defense against psychic abilities in Felarya, that I read.
Then the best bet is just mind-screwing the Predator, getting what information you need, and either:

A) Killing the predator.
B) Reduce it to a vegetative state.
C) 'Spare' it.
And if you're a real bastage, cha cha cha... turn that predator against its own kind. If you're a really tres super uber psionic master of the mind, then bend its will, AND channel your psi through its mind to attack others.

Do that to a Dryad and pwnaz0r the whole network before they even see your attack coming!
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PostSubject: Re: Name your superhero/anime character and judge their chances!   Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:03 am

I would think that the network, being psychic in nature would indicate that dryads themselves have some psychic ability, and therefore defense. Of course, once you crack one, the network would get you the rest of them. If you start to get really serious about it though, it might draw the attention of the guardians.
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PostSubject: Re: Name your superhero/anime character and judge their chances!   Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:44 pm

A-Eadie wrote:
I would think that the network, being psychic in nature would indicate that dryads themselves have some psychic ability, and therefore defense. Of course, once you crack one, the network would get you the rest of them. If you start to get really serious about it though, it might draw the attention of the guardians.
Subtlety and secrecy is everything. A network of really good psychics could rig up the giant Preds of Felarya to fall all at once in an orgy of intra-species warfare. If they write their plans down, though, the gig is up.
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PostSubject: Re: Name your superhero/anime character and judge their chances!   Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:54 pm

Of course, getting all the predators to rampage on each other might just cause the guardians to scrap everything and start over. See: Noah re: Flood.
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PostSubject: Re: Name your superhero/anime character and judge their chances!   Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:01 pm

You forget that the guardian Nemyra is practically omnicient- she knows all and sees all. You can pretty much assume that the "thought police" would intervene before any attack came into fruition.
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PostSubject: Re: Name your superhero/anime character and judge their chances!   Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:10 pm

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You forget that the guardian Nemyra is practically omnicient- she knows all and sees all. You can pretty much assume that the "thought police" would intervene before any attack came into fruition.

Which is why Ur-Sagol grew so bi- wait a minute.
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PostSubject: Re: Name your superhero/anime character and judge their chances!   Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:21 pm

/Fish/ wrote:
You forget that the guardian Nemyra is practically omnicient- she knows all and sees all. You can pretty much assume that the "thought police" would intervene before any attack came into fruition.
Nemyra is exactly why I said never ever write major plans like that down. Psychics can mask each other's thoughts with mental encryption (the harpies do this in a really stone aged fashion) and background noise. The object would be to make it so Nemyra sees the plan but mistakes it for nothing of consequence. *ahem* Good luck with that. Also, having the whole team sitting within touching distance of a portal leading away from Felarya is a prerequisite. Even if you are successful, as A-Eadie said, the Guardians could hit the reset button. Call me anything but don't call me unprepared, lol.

As for the actual idea of re-programming great Preds, I point to Al Bester of Babylon 5 as an example of how this can be pulled off in a very subtle manner, although he only managed to put a deep program in one person's mind at a time.
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PostSubject: Re: Name your superhero/anime character and judge their chances!   Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:24 am

imperial guard assassin /w infiltration

what do you think the chances are people
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PostSubject: Re: Name your superhero/anime character and judge their chances!   Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:06 am

Another way to do a really good job of reprogramming/replacement was just revealed with Marvel's Secret Invasion comic. Just in case you haven't read it yourself, I'll put what happened in a spoiler:

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PostSubject: Re: Name your superhero/anime character and judge their chances!   Sat Jun 07, 2008 7:30 am

dreadis wrote:
imperial guard assassin /w infiltration

what do you think the chances are people

If you mean the Vindicare... very high for its survival.

Regular assassins alone in 40K are quite capable of dodging even lasbolts and autogun fire (In limited amounts), capable of speed-blitzing Astartes (A good feat, considering Astartes themself are capable of crossing a room before a man could pull a trigger twice [Storm of Iron] and have a 45km an hour walking speed [Dawn of War novelization]), and most certainly above human normal durability and strength (An assassin gets mauled by a Space Wolf [In Wolf Blade] gone feral and manages to live, albiet barely and only because someone eventually dragged the crazy bastard off him). A last example of skill may be the killing of someone 10km away with a Headshot from their sniper, and the same one later shooting the pilot out of an Imperial Fighter in the middle of an attack run against said assassin [Was in a 40K comic that I cannot bother to find the name of].

For gear, the type of assassin you're speaking of has a good focus on stealth and ranged combat: Better for it in Felarya. The sniper's basic rounds, as stated above, have a very good range and some form of armour piercing as is. Specialist rounds have not been seen in (use to my knowledge), though include: Shield breaker rounds (Guess what they do to shielding?), Hellfire (Which, considering what other Hellfire rounds do, is likely some sort of highly volatile substance that can quickly cover human targets in fire both outside and inside), Kraken (Armor piercing rounds, tend to be of harder substances), Inferno (Similar to Hellfire on a smaller scale), and Turbo Penetrator (Intended for anti-armour such as sniping crew and munitions through the hull of battle tanks).

Beyond the sniper, we have: a Pistol that uses what can at best be described as "High velocity and very high calibre slugs", several forms of fragmentary and anti-armor grenades (Which, in the IoM, range from coin-sized fragmentary grenades capable of blowing apart the base of statues [Chapter Wars], all the way up to Melta-Bombs which work on a similar principle of Melta Guns by turning a small area almost atomic fire-hot [Storm of Iron]), a stealth suit which is capable of allowing the assassin to blend into his environment about the same as a Predator (From the movie, and the novel in question was Scourge the Heretic), a visor that improves vision and adds several alternate vision modes (With Night Vision for sure and likely things such as 'Terrorsight' as well, a special form that lets one view individual objects and persons through cave walls, see the internal organs of those non-obscured by terrain, etc [Angels of Darkness]), and often some sort of incendiary device to dispose of corpses if Sentries become a problem.

The Assassin's biggest concern would be his ammunition. If they could get to some human military base this will likely be a null concern [I could see the Miratans being assholes and giving the sniper a roost to fire from, a box of ammunition, and a piece of paper designating every target creature with a multi-kilometer radius to shoot down on sight].
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PostSubject: Re: Name your superhero/anime character and judge their chances!   Sat Jun 07, 2008 7:57 am

Spiderman. In Dridder's Forest. Arachnid vs arachnid. He has the senses of a spider and great strength. Webbing, too. Who will prevail?! This would make for a great crossover... Damn it, now I want to write about this.

I give Spidey a relatively high chance in any part of Felarya. The trees would work better for web-swinging than skyscrapers, and no doubt he could tie up a pred long enough to escape. He'd also have great quips at his disposal. Quips justify anything.

Crisis: "Hey, what's that human doing dressed funny like tha-"
Spidey: "Take webs, preds! Can't eat me now!"
Crisis: But I still want to...
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PostSubject: Re: Name your superhero/anime character and judge their chances!   Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:06 am

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Spiderman. In Dridder's Forest. Arachnid vs arachnid. He has the senses of a spider and great strength.
Most definitely, being able to toss cars is always a plus. He also has dodged gunfire before, if I'm not mistaken.

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Webbing, too.
Yes, but he has the advantage of shooting the web instead of having to spin it.

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Who will prevail?!
Likely spiderman, though that's more due to his precog than anything else.
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PostSubject: Re: Name your superhero/anime character and judge their chances!   Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:33 am

Didn't Spiderman go toe to toe against the Hulk? That guy could possibly throw a giant Naga. I wouldn't want to be a Drider taking a full strength punch to the side of the head from him. He'd ring that Drider's bell so loud that Anko would hear it all the way over by the temple!

Wouldn't put him up against a Dryad, though.
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PostSubject: Re: Name your superhero/anime character and judge their chances!   Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:02 pm

I'm afraid you've opened pandora's box by mentioning the Hulk.

Hulk: "HULK SMASH GUARDIAN!"

I think that besides Brolly, the Hulk would be the candidate to test the guardians with.
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PostSubject: Re: Name your superhero/anime character and judge their chances!   Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:02 pm

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I'm afraid you've opened pandora's box by mentioning the Hulk.

Hulk: "HULK SMASH GUARDIAN!"

I think that besides Brolly, the Hulk would be the candidate to test the guardians with.
Well, the Guardians might lose an arm wrestling contest with him, and a lot of Great Preds would get sent to hell wrapped up as a pretzel, but what about the likes of Anko? Or Aurora?

Fairies also have shrinking magic and depending on the size of the prey they can shrink, he might be shrink-able. His strength may also be proportionally diminished. It's not certain that they could eat him, but it's a solid risk, for sure.

Brolly, on the other hand, well you know how he'll lose, right? The whole first episode he'll monologue, and the second whole episode he'll power up. Meanwhile the guardians probably will gather everything including the kitchen sink to throw at him all at once as his monologue is firing up. Somewhere in that mix is probably something that'll kill him. If not, the second shot is Brolly's.......... Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Name your superhero/anime character and judge their chances!   Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:55 pm

I'm saying that if he can stay in "Hulk form" the entire time, he's practically invinceable. Practically. I don't think the Hulk can be digested by any means- could animantium even cut him? And there's no guarantee that magic will work on him either. Shrinking the Hulk just makes him angrier, therefore he gets stronger. They could easily deal with him by sending him into a dimensional portal though...

Here you can see the Hulk fighting the norse god, Thor.




I'm with the "Brolly is overrated" group.
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PostSubject: Re: Name your superhero/anime character and judge their chances!   Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:22 pm

I'm pretty sure that, given enough Rage and time, the Hulk could punch himself out of a Black Hole.
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PostSubject: Re: Name your superhero/anime character and judge their chances!   Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:56 pm

Boredom drove me to make this:

Seeing as the first on his list is a guardian, I think the rest are safe.
No doubt I'll be going to hell for this, and I bet Menyssan is waiting for me...

Yes, the Hulk will punch a smiling Anna. He's that dangerous.
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PostSubject: Re: Name your superhero/anime character and judge their chances!   Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:03 pm

Not quite as bad as the Juggernaut:
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PostSubject: Re: Name your superhero/anime character and judge their chances!   Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:24 pm

/Fish/ wrote:
Boredom drove me to make this:

Seeing as the first on his list is a guardian, I think the rest are safe.
No doubt I'll be going to hell for this, and I bet Menyssan is waiting for me...

Yes, the Hulk will punch a smiling Anna. He's that dangerous.
ROTFLMAO x10K! Best pic EVER. Allow me to add onto it.



Yeah, if The Hulk hits Anna, she's long gone out of the park. She'll land somewhere in time for the sequel and shit.

But now think about ROGUE. Imagine what happens when Nemyra sticks out her tongue and wraps it around her... Laughing


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