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Anime-Junkie Loremaster
Posts : 2690 Join date : 2007-12-16 Age : 31 Location : The Country of Kangaroos and Criminal Scum
| Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:00 am | |
| - timing2 wrote:
- FalconJudge wrote:
- The Guardians are the limit.
Ah, but who guards the Guardians? Karbo does In seriousness, I'm going with Falcon; the Guardians guard each other. | |
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itsmeyouidiot Marauder of the deep jungle
Posts : 385 Join date : 2009-07-27 Age : 31 Location : The Pit
| Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:19 am | |
| - timing2 wrote:
- FalconJudge wrote:
- The Guardians are the limit.
Ah, but who guards the Guardians? Doctor Manhattan? | |
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Anime-Junkie Loremaster
Posts : 2690 Join date : 2007-12-16 Age : 31 Location : The Country of Kangaroos and Criminal Scum
| Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:32 am | |
| - itsmeyouidiot wrote:
- timing2 wrote:
- FalconJudge wrote:
- The Guardians are the limit.
Ah, but who guards the Guardians? Doctor Manhattan? Guardians > Dr Manhattan | |
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itsmeyouidiot Marauder of the deep jungle
Posts : 385 Join date : 2009-07-27 Age : 31 Location : The Pit
| Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:44 am | |
| Someon doesn't know how to take a joke... | |
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Malahite Cog in the Machine
Posts : 2433 Join date : 2007-12-11 Location : Old World
| Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:27 am | |
| - timing2 wrote:
- And I agree wholeheartedly about even giants not being safe in Felarya. There's always a bigger (or hungrier) fish in the pond.
You'd be surprised. The number of Predator deaths seems almost microscopic compared to what one would expect. It's not unheard of for a small human party to draw the attention of a dozen-strong Kensha Beast pack, but it's rare to see more than a half-dozen even look at a Predator funny. Which is odd, because at 20' long (or high, as some insist) they'd need to be eating some really big things unless everything in Felarya benefits from the reduced calorie diets. That's a slight problem with Felarya: Predators are safe, outside stories specifically tailored to show that they aren't. | |
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FalconJudge Hero
Posts : 1040 Join date : 2008-11-07 Age : 33 Location : Work
| Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:32 am | |
| You know how everyone's scared of Tonorians? Yeah, there's a reason for that. They can kill faeries. | |
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Malahite Cog in the Machine
Posts : 2433 Join date : 2007-12-11 Location : Old World
| Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:09 am | |
| - FalconJudge wrote:
- You know how everyone's scared of Tonorians? Yeah, there's a reason for that. They can kill faeries.
Which live in only one place of Felarya. And also note what makes them scary: They can kill Fairies. Because normally, something being capable of killing a Fairy is nigh-unheard of. | |
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FalconJudge Hero
Posts : 1040 Join date : 2008-11-07 Age : 33 Location : Work
| Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:14 am | |
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Raveolution Temple scourge
Posts : 635 Join date : 2008-03-29 Location : Zentraedi Macronization Chamber
| Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:19 pm | |
| - Malahite wrote:
- timing2 wrote:
- And I agree wholeheartedly about even giants not being safe in Felarya. There's always a bigger (or hungrier) fish in the pond.
You'd be surprised. The number of Predator deaths seems almost microscopic compared to what one would expect. It's not unheard of for a small human party to draw the attention of a dozen-strong Kensha Beast pack, but it's rare to see more than a half-dozen even look at a Predator funny. Which is odd, because at 20' long (or high, as some insist) they'd need to be eating some really big things unless everything in Felarya benefits from the reduced calorie diets.
That's a slight problem with Felarya: Predators are safe, outside stories specifically tailored to show that they aren't. Easy explanation: these giant monsters all eat normal sized elves, humans and Nekos, tons of them. And elves, human and nekos never take revenge at seeing their sons and daughters getting eaten and no humans or nekos bring heavy firepower or psi to retaliate. A naga can devour an entire village of nekos but if someone retaliates and blows up a ton of nagas the Guardians get involved. Hence, there is plenty of food for the big monsters, and they don't fear their prey, who are all severely handicapped.Except, of course, when one counts the outside stories... | |
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rcs619 Felarya cartographer
Posts : 1589 Join date : 2008-04-07 Age : 36
| Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:35 pm | |
| - Raveolution wrote:
- Malahite wrote:
- timing2 wrote:
- And I agree wholeheartedly about even giants not being safe in Felarya. There's always a bigger (or hungrier) fish in the pond.
You'd be surprised. The number of Predator deaths seems almost microscopic compared to what one would expect. It's not unheard of for a small human party to draw the attention of a dozen-strong Kensha Beast pack, but it's rare to see more than a half-dozen even look at a Predator funny. Which is odd, because at 20' long (or high, as some insist) they'd need to be eating some really big things unless everything in Felarya benefits from the reduced calorie diets.
That's a slight problem with Felarya: Predators are safe, outside stories specifically tailored to show that they aren't. Easy explanation: these giant monsters all eat normal sized elves, humans and Nekos, tons of them. And elves, human and nekos never take revenge at seeing their sons and daughters getting eaten and no humans or nekos bring heavy firepower or psi to retaliate. A naga can devour an entire village of nekos but if someone retaliates and blows up a ton of nagas the Guardians get involved. Hence, there is plenty of food for the big monsters, and they don't fear their prey, who are all severely handicapped.
Except, of course, when one counts the outside stories... Umm...the guardians don't care about preds getting killed, no more than they care about humans getting eaten. They only intervene in world-shattering situations. The only time they acted against humans was agianst Ur-Sagol, and they were aggressively expansive and pricks to all people, probably other humans as well. Not everyone is fixated on revenge. It would likely revert to how people really behave in a survival situation, they would move on and just try to survive. Not run off on a suicide mission. No one is "handicapped" Preds get knocked off by other wildlife, like Kenshas and Marsh Vipers. People usually don't show it because preds are cute and have boobs, or something. | |
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vegasmazza3 Newbie adventurer
Posts : 69 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 33 Location : California, USA
| Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:23 pm | |
| - rcs619 wrote:
- No one is "handicapped" Preds get knocked off by other wildlife, like Kenshas and Marsh Vipers. People usually don't show it because preds are cute and have boobs, or something.
Lol... yah that is pretty true, but Karbo did recently draw fairies getting eaten by flowers or something... but I also think that the number of "pred" deaths is definitely a lot less than the number of "prey" deaths. Humans and nekos need to band togehter and retaliate!!! WAR!!! Would the guardians respond to something like WWII... because that wasn't the end of the world... but it was pretty earth shattering. I guess there's just a tense peace between the humans and nekos living there and the "preds" kind of like how the U.S. and Russia didn't kill each other... they just glared at each other... lol | |
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Malahite Cog in the Machine
Posts : 2433 Join date : 2007-12-11 Location : Old World
| Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:03 am | |
| - vegasmazza3 wrote:
- Lol... yah that is pretty true, but Karbo did recently draw fairies getting eaten by flowers or something... but I also think that the number of "pred" deaths is definitely a lot less than the number of "prey" deaths.
I find less problem with the number of Predator deaths (they still are amongst [if not] apex predators) then that, usually, they're portrayed to be these things that - if ill from a Parasite, exhausted of magic because of who knows what, and caught completely by surprise - might be at risk from a full-sized (12) pack of Kensha Beasts. - Quote :
- WAR!!!
Krieg! Krieg! Krieg! - Quote :
- Would the guardians respond to something like WWII...
Mass-mobilization millions strong with naval, land, and air presence using extreme amounts of ordinance and armour. I'd assume so. While it probably wouldn't be a "world shattering" scenario (mainly because of all the natural barriers), it'd still cause some major havoc and probably upset the eco-system too much for the Guardians to care for. Plus, seeing as the Fairy Kingdom is nestled almost dead-center between the three major population centers of humans [Delurans, Miratans, Negav] and the major population center of Nekos [Nekomura], the fact that they'd be in the path would give even further incentive to prevent it from going off: While I doubt a conventional arms military could assault the Fairy Kingdom effectively [if at all], could you imagine the end result if they did assault the Fairy Kingdom, and won? | |
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FalconJudge Hero
Posts : 1040 Join date : 2008-11-07 Age : 33 Location : Work
| Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:41 am | |
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Stabs Moderator
Posts : 1875 Join date : 2009-10-15 Age : 34 Location : The Coil, Miragia
| Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:55 am | |
| Wha'? The Fairy Kingdom isn't dead center. It's east of the map, the Miratans are east of the map, the Delurans are east of the fairy kingdom, Nekomura and Negav are southeast of the Fairy Kingdom! Everything human is to the east for them.
Besides, WWII gave us some good things, too. Like keeping everyone from thinking about starting war again because they knew nukes were in the arsenal now, thus reducing sufficient tension to start a war into just the Cold War, and when that ended, everyone became friends. I'd say if the Fairy Kingdom lost, well, they'd be allies to whoever won against them forevermore. Weird things happen in war...
...oh, dear, when you think about it, that'd be really bad shit... add a healthy supply of horny soldiers, let them get to know each other under vigilance so that they can't kill each other, and the Fairy Kingdom will reproduce painfully... for the rest of the world. Though it's not as bad as it would be if it were a HARPY kingdom, they don't feel squicked about the idea one bit. | |
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Grave Marauder of the deep jungle
Posts : 387 Join date : 2009-11-01
| Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:49 am | |
| At least war would make a lot of the succubi in hell happy.......
Anyway, I think the reason for low male population in predators is Boob Syndrome.
Vivian is proof of the power held within boobs, and if male predators release female prey more often then that means they end up eating other males, thus driving the female population up and male down. And since there are more females than males now, males end up sucking at getting food at all because they end up not wanting to eat a good pair of boobs. So they starve a little and become more susceptible to other prey and get eaten further driving the male population downward. And females have an easier time hunting because males don't run from a giant pair of boobs. Boobs explain it all.
(The above is obviously a joke.) | |
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Malahite Cog in the Machine
Posts : 2433 Join date : 2007-12-11 Location : Old World
| Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:13 pm | |
| - Stabs wrote:
- Wha'? The Fairy Kingdom isn't dead center.
My apologies, I was thinking the Fairy Pond. | |
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timing2 Moderator
Posts : 226 Join date : 2009-06-28 Location : Running from a predator
| Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:44 pm | |
| - Stabs wrote:
- Wha'? The Fairy Kingdom isn't dead center. It's east of the map, the Miratans are east of the map, the Delurans are east of the fairy kingdom, Nekomura and Negav are southeast of the Fairy Kingdom! Everything human is to the east for them.
"Go East, Young Fairy" | |
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Raveolution Temple scourge
Posts : 635 Join date : 2008-03-29 Location : Zentraedi Macronization Chamber
| Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:30 pm | |
| - Malahite wrote:
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- Would the guardians respond to something like WWII...
Mass-mobilization millions strong with naval, land, and air presence using extreme amounts of ordinance and armour. I'd assume so. While it probably wouldn't be a "world shattering" scenario (mainly because of all the natural barriers), it'd still cause some major havoc and probably upset the eco-system too much for the Guardians to care for. Plus, seeing as the Fairy Kingdom is nestled almost dead-center between the three major population centers of humans [Delurans, Miratans, Negav] and the major population center of Nekos [Nekomura], the fact that they'd be in the path would give even further incentive to prevent it from going off: While I doubt a conventional arms military could assault the Fairy Kingdom effectively [if at all], could you imagine the end result if they did assault the Fairy Kingdom, and won? The fairies would scatter if they started losing, and once the united human & neko front was victorious they would become disunited and start fighting amongst themselves. The Guardians, as I interpret them, wouldn't step into it with raw firepower - Mercreti would walk in and manipulate the humans and Nekos into going at each other (see: what happened in Negav City). The fairies would just wait it out and then come and take it all right back. I say this because if all the humans and nekos joined forces to go to war then the other Guardian option is to wipe them all out, because at that point backing down is not an option - the humans and nekos are probably at war because they're tired of getting eaten. At some point this level of frustration will be reached. You can't just eat sentients like this forever and they never decide to push back. This has never happened in human history - humans never let themselves be another species' bitch, and I'd bet the nekos and (human sized) elves don't either. As for nukes... unless another world brings them in, I just doubt they'll ever be let off in Felarya. By the way... how does a human have sex with an 80 foot harpy....? | |
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sonik0578 Seasoned adventurer
Posts : 124 Join date : 2009-10-06 Age : 37 Location : glasgow, scotland
| Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:46 pm | |
| Raveolution brings up a VERY good point as i to have been bugged by harpy breading but just shrugged it off. i dont see any bother with the small human sized harpys but the bigger ones i do so i can think of only 2 plausible answers. 1: they have size changing magic like faries 2: they have human sized reproductive organ's lay ostrich sized eggs
thats just off the top of my head mind you and i wouldn't want to let the harpy be on top if it was the second one
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Raveolution Temple scourge
Posts : 635 Join date : 2008-03-29 Location : Zentraedi Macronization Chamber
| Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:48 pm | |
| - sonik0578 wrote:
- thats just off the top of my head mind you and i wouldn't want to let the harpy be on top if it was the second one
LOL!!! I'm busting a gut here. I'm sure there's something about sex with harpies that I'm missing though. But on the surface... yeah, the cowgirl position is looking pretty unsafe! | |
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Malahite Cog in the Machine
Posts : 2433 Join date : 2007-12-11 Location : Old World
| Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:04 pm | |
| Oh, I've brought up hybrids countless times. I've learned it's best not to ask, as - unlike how fast a Predator can move, or just what magic spells exist - such instances almost always boil down to someone getting their fetish fuel fix, or because they wrote themselves into a corner where they need to get the traits of two worlds to get their idea to work. Odds of everything being able to breed together are already slim without including factors such as size and weight. | |
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xlrp valiant swordman
Posts : 222 Join date : 2007-12-08 Age : 40 Location : The City
| Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:09 pm | |
| - Malahite wrote:
- Oh, I've brought up hybrids countless times. I've learned it's best not to ask, as - unlike how fast a Predator can move, or just what magic spells exist - such instances almost always boil down to someone getting their fetish fuel fix, or because they wrote themselves into a corner where they need to get the traits of two worlds to get their idea to work. Odds of everything being able to breed together are already slim without including factors such as size and weight.
I would say the best place think about hybrid creatures. Would be in the creatures of Hell. If your going to create abominations you might as well go all the way and have it in the proper place. | |
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JohnDoe valiant swordman
Posts : 231 Join date : 2009-05-06
| Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:13 pm | |
| [quote="Raveolution"][quote="Malahite"] - Quote :
By the way... how does a human have sex with an 80 foot harpy....? Very carefully I'd suspect. | |
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Grave Marauder of the deep jungle
Posts : 387 Join date : 2009-11-01
| Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:48 pm | |
| - Raveolution wrote:
By the way... how does a human have sex with an 80 foot harpy....? I chuckled at this. All I can say is it's probably one of the Mother Russia things. You don't have sex with an 80 foot harpy.... | |
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Raveolution Temple scourge
Posts : 635 Join date : 2008-03-29 Location : Zentraedi Macronization Chamber
| Subject: Re: Problems with Felarya Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:10 pm | |
| - Grave wrote:
- Raveolution wrote:
By the way... how does a human have sex with an 80 foot harpy....? I chuckled at this. All I can say is it's probably one of the Mother Russia things.
You don't have sex with an 80 foot harpy.... Hahahah! 80 foot harpy have sex with YOU! | |
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