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Shady Knight Lord of the Elements
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| Subject: Angel Sub-species Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:41 am | |
| At the wiki there's no sub-species written yet for angels. So maybe we should make some sub-species for them, they seriously need it. | |
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Silent_eric Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Angel Sub-species Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:51 am | |
| You took the words right from my proverbial mouth. Already, I have an idea for an angel, slightly inspired by Zoekin's angel, Krista.
Snow Angel
Angel's with porcelien white features, and almost blindingly white wings. A snow angel's hair tends to be white, or at least a pale blonde. Their attitude always seems a bit cold and distant. They take their job very seriously, no matter what they may have to do. They tend not to be too imaginative, and they follow their orders to the letter. This has led to a nickname, Golem Angels. Snow angels tend to ignore most things that don't have to do with their job, and aren't likely to help people in need unless they have to. Of course, the angels avoid doing anything evil, even if it's the easiest way to achieve their goal. The only way to get a snow angel to show any real emotion other than stoicism is to make fun of it's name, race, job, or any other personal slight. Snow angels have been known to stop on a dime to 'punish' anyone stupid enough to make slight of them. Despite this only flaw, snow angels are among the very best of the working class angels, though they don't have the imagination to rise too high in rank. And when mortals get the bright idea to try to summon and tame an angel, they usually try to summon a snow angel. In fact, one particularly rich mage in Negav is said to have a snow angel he summoned as a maid. | |
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Shady Knight Lord of the Elements
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| Subject: Re: Angel Sub-species Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:11 am | |
| The whole problem is that, Krista is supposed to be the anti-thesis to an Angel. If you make a whole sub-specie of them that are cold, you shatter what Krista is all about. And they look more like drones; they need to be more sentient.
But that's just me, others may find it good. *whistle* | |
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Silent_eric Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Angel Sub-species Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:21 am | |
| Yeah, but their only loosely based on her. Lookie. They avoid doing evil things, even if it's the easiest way to complete their task. They wouldn't, say, drop a young naga from high in the air.
And I suppose your right about their droneness. But any time you generalize an entire species, or sub species, there are bound to be exceptions and dozens of degrees of the generalization. So while the average snow angel is quiet and subdued, there are some with a more... fiery personality. And many snow angels have a warm heart under their icy exterior.
See where I'm going with this? ^^; | |
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Shady Knight Lord of the Elements
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| Subject: Re: Angel Sub-species Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:08 pm | |
| Actually, I'm pretty dense, and I have a hard time following someone's explanation. ^^;
Another thing is that the whole "Ice or Snow creature is emotionally cold" is kinda cliché. If they are more of a warrior type, no need to give them "Snow" in their name. There is "Solaros", "Archangel" and "Cherub" mentioned in the wiki, but no entry for them. Maybe focusing on them might be a bigger priority. | |
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Silent_eric Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Angel Sub-species Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:34 pm | |
| Well that's perfect because, if you ask me, my explanations are hard to follow.
I'm aware that linking elements to emotions is a quick and simple way to describe a character, and as such is a cliché. That's why I had some elements of 'cold, unfeeling character' in the description, but I also had a (in my humble opinion at least) unique change up on the design by making them almost like robots or golems.
And really, they aren't so much a warrior. If they are told to do so, they fight with mindless efficiency, but if they are told by their superior to man a phone, they will do that without complaint.
I would think that an archangel and cherub can be used either as a species, or as a rank (Which if I remember right, I think Zoekin did). I tend to think of them more as a rank myself. | |
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Karbo Evil admin
Posts : 3812 Join date : 2007-12-08
| Subject: Re: Angel Sub-species Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:20 pm | |
| Nice idea with the snow angels The name sounds a bit generic but their character and behavior are interesting ^_^ | |
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Silent_eric Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Angel Sub-species Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:31 am | |
| Well the name 'Snow Angel' is kind of a reference to the angels children make in the snow. It was part of an original gag idea I had, but it looks like they kinda evolved past that now. I started writing about them, and they ended up as completely different than what I had in mind. So yeah, a new name is probably needed. Anyone can feel free to make a new name. | |
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Daimo Veteran knight
Posts : 295 Join date : 2008-03-09 Age : 36 Location : Lamina
| Subject: Re: Angel Sub-species Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:49 am | |
| *Takes a crack at it*
Angelic An Angelic is an Angel who has decided to reincarnate itself into another type of race. The race it chooses will have the name Angelic next to it, so if the Angel decides to reincarnate as a Human then it will be an Angelic Human or if the Angel decides to reincarnate as a Naga then it will be an Angelic Naga. A person who is Angelic starts his or her life normal. They show no signs of being a reincarnated angel or have any memories of being an Angel. This normalcy goes on until they reach puberty. Along with the normal changes that happen during puberty, the Angelic person will also sprout one single majestic angelic wing from their right or left shoulder blade. The size of the wing depends on their race and the wing will be able to support them in flight no matter what their race is, but they won’t be as good as an Harpie or Sphinx when it comes to flight. Their irises also change a little, if you look closely at it you’ll find that the irises glow a faint white. The Angelic person will find that they can use Holy Magic, usually in the form of healing at first, but if they train their powers their Holy Magic will become stronger and allow them to do different things.
After the change, the Angelic person doesn’t suddenly become all Angel-like in terms of personality. Some alteration occurs, but nothing really significant, it usually depends on the Angelic if he or she wants to change or stay the way they were. This means an Angelic Naga is still as voracious as any other Naga or an Angelic Human can still be cruel and such. When an Angelic dies they are judged like everybody else and depending how they acted during their mortal life they will either return to heaven as an angel or be sent to hell as a demon
Unfortunately, An Angelic person is extremely rare because most Angels don’t reincarnate themselves. | |
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Silent_eric Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Angel Sub-species Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:02 am | |
| That's an interesting concept! So what your saying at the end there, is only by reincarnating themselves as a mortal can they even later be reborn as another type of angel, or as a demon. So an angelic who dies isn't treated as a mortal in the afterlife, but will become another angel, or a demon if they were nasty in life.
This also raises the question of whether there are demonics as well. | |
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Shady Knight Lord of the Elements
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| Subject: Re: Angel Sub-species Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:13 am | |
| I always see angels as the same as demons, because both are superior to humans in nearly every concievable way, they have animal like features. Angels: bird wings Demons: various
Both live much longer than mortals, and both are born innocent; not innately good or evil.
Angel is like the Heaven version of the Succubus for me and vice versa. | |
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Daimo Veteran knight
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| Subject: Re: Angel Sub-species Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:17 am | |
| Heh heh, Demonics sound interesting. I'd assume instead of an angel wing, they'd sprout a single bat-like demonic wing and have glowing red irises instead of white ones. - Quote :
- Both live much longer than mortals, and both are born innocent; not innately good or evil.
That is why an Angelic doesn't become uber good after puberty. | |
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Karbo Evil admin
Posts : 3812 Join date : 2007-12-08
| Subject: Re: Angel Sub-species Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:39 pm | |
| Ohh this is a great idea ! There is definitely many things to do with that | |
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Daimo Veteran knight
Posts : 295 Join date : 2008-03-09 Age : 36 Location : Lamina
| Subject: Re: Angel Sub-species Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:22 pm | |
| - Quote :
- Ohh this is a great idea !
There is definitely many things to do with that Razz Cool, I guess I can make up the Demonic race later. | |
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Daimo Veteran knight
Posts : 295 Join date : 2008-03-09 Age : 36 Location : Lamina
| Subject: Re: Angel Sub-species Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:38 pm | |
| I remember I said I was going to do this. This is what I think a Demonic would be like. Pretty much the same as an Angelic, but if anyone thinks they should be different then I will be happy to listen to what they have to say.
Demonics Just like how an Angel can reincarnate into another type race and live the life of a mortal, some powerful demons that reside in hell can do the same thing. When the Demon reincarnates into another race, the race gains the term Demonic next to it, a Demonic Neko or Demonic Harpy for example. Just like a person who is an Angelic, the Demonic person doesn’t know they are a reincarnated Demon and lives their life normally until puberty. When puberty hits, the Demonic person sprouts one single demonic bat-like wing from their right or left shoulder blade. The size of the wing depends on their race and the wind will be able to support them in flight no matter what race there are, but they won’t be as good as a an Avian race when it comes to flight, and if the Demonic is part of an avian race, then the wing won’t effect or improve their ability in flight. Another change is that their irises gain a faint crimson red glow.
A Demonic person will be able to use dark magic in the form of curses after the change, but their power will become better and stronger if they train it. Contrary to popular belief, a Demonic person will not automatically become evil-like after the change. Their personality will become slightly darker, but it all depends if they want to become evil or if they were already evil to begin with.
When an Demonic dies they are judged like everybody else and depending how they acted during their mortal life they will go to heaven as an angel or be sent to hell again as a demon
Unfortunately, A Demonic person is extremely rare because most Demons don’t or aren’t powerful enough reincarnate themselves. | |
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gwadahunter2222 Master cartographer
Posts : 1842 Join date : 2007-12-08 Age : 41
| Subject: Re: Angel Sub-species Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:42 pm | |
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- Unfortunately, A Demonic person is extremely rare because most Demons don’t or aren’t powerful enough reincarnate themselves.
Contrary to Angels the demons have a physical body | |
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Shady Knight Lord of the Elements
Posts : 4580 Join date : 2008-01-20 Age : 34
| Subject: Re: Angel Sub-species Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:17 pm | |
| - gwadahunter2222 wrote:
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- Unfortunately, A Demonic person is extremely rare because most Demons don’t or aren’t powerful enough reincarnate themselves.
Contrary to Angels the demons have a physical body Angels ARE demons. Both are mostly human shaped, their capabilities surpasses mortals in everything except growth, and none of them are purely good or evil. I'm sick and tired of classing angels a different specie when they are nothing more than the Heaven version of Succubi. | |
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gwadahunter2222 Master cartographer
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| Subject: Re: Angel Sub-species Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:55 pm | |
| - Sean Okotami wrote:
- Angels ARE demons. Both are mostly human shaped, their capabilities surpasses mortals in everything except growth, and none of them are purely good or evil. I'm sick and tired of classing angels a different specie when they are nothing more than the Heaven version of Succubi.
Not really,Angels are servants they are just following the laws , they don't have real form they are pure energy. The humanoid with wing form you see it's the form they have when they have to deals with the humans. When an angel disobey they gives it a body in order it suffers in hell. Demons contrary to angels have their own free will, that's why the angels don't like them because contrary to angel their life is chaotic and they don't follown any law. Another details, the mortals are superior to the angels and the demons for one thing, because they can choose to be affected or not by them. | |
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Shady Knight Lord of the Elements
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| Subject: Re: Angel Sub-species Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:00 pm | |
| - gwadahunter2222 wrote:
- Sean Okotami wrote:
- Angels ARE demons. Both are mostly human shaped, their capabilities surpasses mortals in everything except growth, and none of them are purely good or evil. I'm sick and tired of classing angels a different specie when they are nothing more than the Heaven version of Succubi.
Not really,Angels are servants they are just following the laws , they don't have real form they are pure energy. The humanoid with wing form you see it's the form they have when they have to deals with the humans. When an angel disobey they gives it a body in order it suffers in hell. Demons contrary to angels have their own free will, that's why the angels don't like them because contrary to angel their life is chaotic and they don't follown any law.
Another details, the mortals are superior to the angels and the demons for one thing, because they can choose to be affected or not by them. If they are pure energy, how come they can pick up a human and digest it? And if angels have no free will, how come they eat innocent humans from time to time? Aren't they supposed to be sentient? And where does it says that they are pure energy? Oh, and if they always take the form of a winged humanoid like in christianism, that means that it is the only real religion, and other religions are evil, no? | |
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gwadahunter2222 Master cartographer
Posts : 1842 Join date : 2007-12-08 Age : 41
| Subject: Re: Angel Sub-species Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:34 pm | |
| - Sean Okotami wrote:
- If they are pure energy, how come they can pick up a human and digest it? And if angels have no free will, how come they eat innocent humans from time to time? Aren't they supposed to be sentient? And where does it says that they are pure energy? Oh, and if they always take the form of a winged humanoid like in christianism, that means that it is the only real religion, and other religions are evil, no?
In the stories of the religion the different demons were in reality the gods of the people who has been conquered. The form they have it's the form the humans give them nothing more. Read the bible and search the origin of the angels in wikipedia too. When the angels go to interact with the mortals they take a body when they come in Felarya due to the unstable nature of the world their form can be altered. That's why it's rumored some become giants when they arrive in Felarya. How a fallen angel appear it's when an angel refuse to obey. Don't forget an Angel will always say "In name of..." And a demon will "I..." | |
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Shady Knight Lord of the Elements
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| Subject: Re: Angel Sub-species Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:42 pm | |
| Let me remind you that angels in religion and angels in Felarya are utterly different, and we are talking about the latter. For me, angels in Felarya are simply the Heaven counterpart of Succubi in Felarya. Those in religion are nothing more than comic relief for the angels in Felarya for me. | |
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gwadahunter2222 Master cartographer
Posts : 1842 Join date : 2007-12-08 Age : 41
| Subject: Re: Angel Sub-species Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:49 pm | |
| - Sean Okotami wrote:
- Let me remind you that angels in religion and angels in Felarya are utterly different, and we are talking about the latter. For me, angels in Felarya are simply the Heaven counterpart of Succubi in Felarya. Those in religion are nothing more than comic relief for the angels in Felarya for me.
Angel in Felarya follow the same base except they are affected by the universe of Felarya Angel always acts in the name of the law they serve And succubus are one race of demons but there other demon or your character Sean will be a succubus | |
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Shady Knight Lord of the Elements
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| Subject: Re: Angel Sub-species Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:56 pm | |
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gwadahunter2222 Master cartographer
Posts : 1842 Join date : 2007-12-08 Age : 41
| Subject: Re: Angel Sub-species Sat Mar 22, 2008 3:11 pm | |
| - Sean Okotami wrote:
- Proof, or it's not true.
here:http://www.felarya.com/wiki/index.php?title=Lore I quote this rumor: I spoke to an angel in Negav once. Well according to her, all angels are roughly the same size in heaven but for some reasons, once they enter Felarya, some end as giant, some human-sized. There is no telling what causes this difference and it's not based on power. Likewise, all angels get their original size back when exiting Felarya. I know it's a rumore there is a part of true And here too: http://www.felarya.com/wiki/index.php?title=Angels And read this article too : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel For the demons here : http://www.felarya.com/wiki/index.php?title=Succubi I quote "Thus, frost succubi and other demons in Acheron tend to regroup in huge cities" So there is other types of demons and they are not necessary succubus | |
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Shady Knight Lord of the Elements
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| Subject: Re: Angel Sub-species Sat Mar 22, 2008 3:25 pm | |
| There's still one more thing, a Succubus is a demon. But what's an Angel? Is it a Wizard? What is it? | |
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