What is the best tactical and strategic offense against...

Assault rifles hurt. Not kill, but as I said in the Equipment thread, each bullet would be like someone sticking a the tip of a pin in you and the tip exploding.
It's not going to kill, but it will hurt a lot, especially considering assault rifles are automatic weapons.

For something like a 50cal, it's a bigger ppin that goes deeper.
A 50cal machinegun could kill a predator given enough time and ammunition. But it's highly unlikely that the predator would stick around long enough to take enough bullets. Note that here it's the blood loss, not the actual bullets that would be the killer.

RPGs and more advanced missile weapons are going to kill or seriously main predators.

Luke, for more info: see this thread: Equipment: how easy is too easy? Especially the 2nd page.

luke112 wrote:

ok i think this has gonna far enough lets change the matter
so here what i think is the best tactical offesive against something like a giant naga, 50 cal DU round will that work if the shot hits the head or will it bounce off? actualy what kind of bullets will pierce a Giant nagas skin?

Yeah, what AJ said.

Just as a quick referrence though.

- 7.62mm assault rifle rounds are non-lethal, but can be very painful in numbers. Like someone pricking you over and over with a tack or needle. Or getitng repeatedly stung by an insect. Their main use against preds is to drive home the point "Hey, don't mess with us. Go away." Most predators will take the hint, and go find easier prey.

- .50cal rounds will pierce flesh and muscle, draw blood and cause some intense pain. Probably still wouldn't penetrate bone though, especially the skull, which has some of the thickest bones on the body.

- Anti-tank/Anti-aircraft rounds, such as the 20mm round fired by the vulcan cannons on various aircrafts and helicopters, would be extremely lethal. The main issue is actually getting the weapon around, since it is usually meant to be mounted on a vehicle.

- Rockets are generally considered to be able to cause nasty wounds, with lots of potential to be lethal depending on where the pred is hit. Even something as simple as the RPG-7 is quite capable of killing a pred, or wounding them severely.

Predator skin is tough, since it is scaled up, but it is nowhere near invulnerable. Groups like the Isolon Fist, which uses powerful battlemages alongside conventionally armed soldiers, are trained...and quite capable, of driving off or killing a predator.

Magic that could hurt a predator is a whole other topic though. I would imagine it is MUCH easier to give a soldier a rocket-launcher than it is to train up a battlemage though.

I want a battlemage that shoots a super fireball out of a bazooka.

ah thank you so much for the feedback.

Sean Okotami wrote:

I want a battlemage that shoots a super fireball out of a bazooka.

Voidefingers with a 'nade launcher. Think about it.

Anime-Junkie wrote:

Sean Okotami wrote:

I want a battlemage that shoots a super fireball out of a bazooka.

Voidefingers with a 'nade launcher. Think about it.

AJ you scareing me

well honestly skin is skin, so any real bullet can at least puncture the skin, but muscle tissue and bone structure is much larger and thicker then a human's, so conventional weapons are only gonna be like AJ said, as painful as a pin prick. You need a bit heavier artillery, Anti armor rounds would do the job nicely, but really anything with a nice strong piercing power should do the trick. The key is to be able to break through the thick tissue layers

Nekko, you misread.
It's not a pin prick. It's not a small sting. It's like having a pin stuck in you and the tip of the pin exploding. That's going to hurt.

Anime-Junkie wrote:

Nekko, you misread.
It's not a pin prick. It's not a small sting. It's like having a pin stuck in you and the tip of the pin exploding. That's going to hurt.

Whatever happened to my post about the ultra powerful grenade in stomach? The one with all the math and stuff in it? I'm trying to remember, but as I recall, under the old size scale, it was just possible for an AK47 rifle shot to penetrate to the heart from inside the stomach, and the resulting temporary wound channel was a long cylinder with a small diameter, something like 2 mm diameter? Not pleasant, but not at all fatal. Not sure what it would be under the new size scale.

Oldman40k2003 wrote:

Anime-Junkie wrote:

Nekko, you misread.
It's not a pin prick. It's not a small sting. It's like having a pin stuck in you and the tip of the pin exploding. That's going to hurt.

Whatever happened to my post about the ultra powerful grenade in stomach? The one with all the math and stuff in it? I'm trying to remember, but as I recall, under the old size scale, it was just possible for an AK47 rifle shot to penetrate to the heart from inside the stomach, and the resulting temporary wound channel was a long cylinder with a small diameter, something like 2 mm diameter? Not pleasant, but not at all fatal. Not sure what it would be under the new size scale.

I found it!

https://felarya.forumotion.com/t1852p60-would-tinies-humans-or-nekos-become-too-much-of-a-hassle It's a ways down the page. You'll know it when you see it XD

Archmage_Bael wrote:

Oldman40k2003 wrote:

Anime-Junkie wrote:

Nekko, you misread.
It's not a pin prick. It's not a small sting. It's like having a pin stuck in you and the tip of the pin exploding. That's going to hurt.

Whatever happened to my post about the ultra powerful grenade in stomach? The one with all the math and stuff in it? I'm trying to remember, but as I recall, under the old size scale, it was just possible for an AK47 rifle shot to penetrate to the heart from inside the stomach, and the resulting temporary wound channel was a long cylinder with a small diameter, something like 2 mm diameter? Not pleasant, but not at all fatal. Not sure what it would be under the new size scale.

I found it!

https://felarya.forumotion.com/t1852p60-would-tinies-humans-or-nekos-become-too-much-of-a-hassle It's a ways down the page. You'll know it when you see it XD

Aww, I looked right past that thread when I was looking for it myself!

so from what you guys have said it is possable to kill or atleast heavuly wound a predator with anti armor rounds, so that would mean High visoity explosive bolts would be effective, and against drayads... explosive incendary wround would work too i guess *shrug*

luke112 wrote:

so from what you guys have said it is possable to kill or atleast heavuly wound a predator with anti armor rounds, so that would mean High visoity explosive bolts would be effective, and against drayads... explosive incendary wround would work too i guess *shrug*

The better question is, why would you even need to worry about attacking a Dryad? They're stuck in place. Not to mention, your face would be broadcast all across the Dryad network, and you'd wind up having a bunch of other Dryads, and their non-dryad, quite mobile friends on the lookout for you.

hey i just saying need to ready for anything

A Dryad will find you first. Their spy-flowers are everywhere. If you run into a dryad face to face, you wont be able to run because of the vines either, so its best to talk your way out. Strategy doesn't always mean bullets and fire and stuff "that just makes 'em angry".

Archmage_Bael wrote:

A Dryad will find you first. Their spy-flowers are everywhere. If you run into a dryad face to face, you wont be able to run because of the vines either, so its best to talk your way out. Strategy doesn't always mean bullets and fire and stuff "that just makes 'em angry".

Honestly, the big issue is finding them in the first place. If a Dryad doesn't want to be seen, you won't see it. She'll just look like any other tree until she feels like doing otherwise.

Archmage_Bael wrote:

A Dryad will find you first. Their spy-flowers are everywhere. If you run into a dryad face to face, you wont be able to run because of the vines either, so its best to talk your way out. Strategy doesn't always mean bullets and fire and stuff "that just makes 'em angry".

honstly Bagle if someone is as paraniod as i am they will a plan for anything and everything, like my plan on how to surivive the hippy apopaclasupe ( no seriously i have a plan for that ) * now cue erry sound effect * think of wild wasteland perk in New vagas sound effect.*

rcs619 wrote:

Archmage_Bael wrote:

A Dryad will find you first. Their spy-flowers are everywhere. If you run into a dryad face to face, you wont be able to run because of the vines either, so its best to talk your way out. Strategy doesn't always mean bullets and fire and stuff "that just makes 'em angry".

Honestly, the big issue is finding them in the first place. If a Dryad doesn't want to be seen, you won't see it. She'll just look like any other tree until she feels like doing otherwise.

Just saying. You're more likely to be seen by the dryad first long before you lay eyes on her. If you do. At that point your survival rate went down to about 2%

Read the "Survival" series by stabs. The first one covers how to detect dryads.

anyhow if any race for some unkown reason had the tech and the numbers to declare war on faries... how would that play out?

luke112 wrote:

anyhow if any race for some unkown reason had the tech and the numbers to declare war on faries... how would that play out?

Fairies, by and large, aren't an organized race. They're a bunch of packs loosely united under a Queen that is still largely a myth to most of them. You can't really declare a proper war on them.

Honestly, Fairies are the last species I'd want to declare war on in the middle of a forest. Their size-shifting abilites would make the some of the best guerrilla fighters in Felarya. All they'd need to do is keep tiny, buzz around at the edges of whatever group was heading their way, and keep shrinking and making off with people. You'd have people constantly disappearing day and night.

If you tried to invade the Fairy Kingdom, well you'd have the above problem combined with the fact that they only ways across the massive canyon that cuts it off from the rest of the jungle are a series of bridges. Chokepoints are never good for an army. If worse comes to worse, the fairies could just take out the bridges. They can fly, it isn't like they need them anyway.

That's assuming its just regular fairies too. The hybrids fairies like Storm Sprites, Dusk Nymphs and Frost Sprites are much, much stronger than their regular cousins, with all kinds of special abilites and magic.

what would work aganist the Martians?, Air power? Tanks?, EMP weapons?

luke112 wrote:

what would work aganist the Martians?, Air power? Tanks?, EMP weapons?

I have no idea what you are trying to get at. As there is no mention of Martians in the Wiki I have no idea what type of technology you intend on them having, what fighting style they use, or even their general behaivior trends. This seems to be a rather random and ill-thought question.

If I were to answer I would have to say that as no life has been discovered on Mars as of yet that the question is mute.

He meant the Miratans.

Sean Okotami wrote:

Everything: Death Star, even to itself.

Halo aray, you mean.

Wipes out all life in a 100,00 light year radii.