Changes and New Stuff

Now that we got that settled, let's move on to something else. Mainly introducing more subzones to already known locations.

Well, I think the problem is your trying to change someone else’s character. You don’t own Crisis, Karbo does. To suddenly make her into a completely different person is very unfair and disrespectful. Crisis is full of life and interesting concepts. She does do MORE then just eat people, her other activities just have yet to be expanded by other authors. I think you should focus more on expanding on her preexisting personality rather then making her go though a life changing series of events that makes her into some entirely different, I think that would be a little disrespectful to Karbo. How would you like it if I wrote a story about one of your characters and made them go though a life changing experience that made them think they where a potted plant? I think you wouldn’t like that very much at all.

zalzas wrote:

Well, I think the problem is your trying to change someone else’s character. You don’t own Crisis, Karbo does. To suddenly make her into a completely different person is very unfair and disrespectful. Crisis is full of life and interesting concepts. She does do MORE then just eat people, her other activities just have yet to be expanded by other authors. I think you should focus more on expanding on her preexisting personality rather then making her go though a life changing series of events that makes her into some entirely different, I think that would be a little disrespectful to Karbo. How would you like it if I wrote a story about one of your characters and made them go though a life changing experience that made them think they where a potted plant? I think you wouldn’t like that very much at all.

*slaps* I said this debate was settled! I didn't meant alter her, I meant develop her!

I dunno, the thought of turning characters into potted plants is tempting.

I think the problem is the lack of stories in a story I explain in many story are written by just telling the story of one OC in general the main character and the other characters turn around this character. In general the world move at the same time the main character, there is few stories which shows the other characters has an existence beyond the main characters.

The others characters had an existence before to meet the main characters and they will have after except if they die.

When I read the wiki many characters lack of story contrary to other, we know the role they play when they meet other characters but we have no or few ideas about their past and their current situation.

There's also the fact the community is pretty disorganized.

For community organization, I have to say that most of my connection to the community is through the wiki, as I don't have the time to read very many other Felaryan stories. ( Sorry! I really want to, I just don't have the time with school.) I figure that the wiki gets updated by people who have a better grasp of the fictionsphere than me, so I can stay pretty close to cannon to the community if I stay cannon to the wiki.

Of course, the one time I did have a major Felaryan named player in the fic, her depiction wasn't quite flawless.

Nonetheless, the show goes on, I'm about a quarter of the way into Chapter 10, with plenty of neko goodness and some development into Dridder culture and specifically the nature of the Dridae as well. There's also a bit of the prey's eye view of Crisis in the village of Pellindale.

In all, I would definitely be interested to read more stories that are survival-of-prey centered. (well, when I can, anyway) I much prefer writing it myself to encourage by example.

No, what I meant is that the forum should have been the focal point for the entire community and it's nothing of the sort.

I'd say most of the people out there don't even know about this forum or don't care enought about Felarya to participate here. O.o as for me i accidentally stepped over it by visiting the wiki.


Then there is the language-problem for most people. The mayority here seems to come from the USA, as far as the "Who is online" thingy tells, which means that non-english speaking people like me for excample (I'm german) are quite rare. The Language-difference also hinders me to fully participate in the felaryan world. I really had problems if I had to write a whole shortstory or even a novel in english and so do others probably too.

You shouldn't worry about the language barrier, there are a lot of English speakers here for the sake of universal communication, but you shouldn't be shy to put up stories in your native language. There are lots of people who can read German, and if you ask for the help, it's not too hard to find someone to help translate into English.

Myself, I learned a little German in high school and some Russian from my coworkers and classmates, but my understanding in each is only very basic for each language.

Edit: Also, I do agree that the community isn't as well organized as one would hope, but the wiki is really a much more focused and organized source for useful information than the board because it's more well controlled. I would love to have all of my ideas on the Wiki, but I understand that Karbo has creative control over his world, so any major stuff I wait until it's in there before I really push it in the story. (Well, okay, there's a few times I bend that rule... )

Amaroq wrote:

I'd say most of the people out there don't even know about this forum or don't care enought about Felarya to participate here. O.o as for me i accidentally stepped over it by visiting the wiki.


Then there is the language-problem for most people. The mayority here seems to come from the USA, as far as the "Who is online" thingy tells, which means that non-english speaking people like me for excample (I'm german) are quite rare. The Language-difference also hinders me to fully participate in the felaryan world. I really had problems if I had to write a whole shortstory or even a novel in english and so do others probably too.

Also, Karbo himself isn't English, so I wouldn't worry about the language barrier.

Naja, ich denke nicht, dass es so praktisch ist, wenn ich Dinge auf deutsch schreibe und dann können die nur vier oder fünf Leute wirklich verstehen.

Well, I don't think it's that practical if I write things in german and maybe four or five people may actually understand them.


I'll try to write more in english language and eventually become better with it... At least you can already understand what I'm trying to say, that's an important step for me. ^^

Well and after a while I'll try to write for Felarya too. I already have an Idea in my mind.

TO GOOGLE TRANSLATOR!

*nananananananana GOOGLE!*

holy sh*t, I wouldn't use that google translator even if my life depended on it. At least the german-english translations vary from just sad to almost funny. ^^

try this one instead. A very helpful friend of mine when it comes to write something in english / german

http://www.dict.cc/

Well I use google because...because I'm lazy.
Anyway, It came out as pretty much the same thing...mostly.

I can't remember. I think the last time I used google translator was to translate an obscure Spanish lemmings joke.

NO! The language barrier has nothing to do with it! The best example is why so few people comment on most other ideas? Why does it take so long here to get a single post whatever the board? Why are there so many threads that gets no replies? That's what makes the community disorganised. We should be supporting everyone's ideas, not favoring only one idea.

When I read that I imagined you saying it SO fast.

But yeah, It's true. We should check out everyone's ideas, not just our own, or one person's, etc.

S-Guy wrote:

When I read that I imagined you saying it SO fast.

But yeah, It's true. We should check out everyone's ideas, not just our own, or one person's, etc.

Then, why is nobody doing it? I got no comment yet for this: https://felarya.forumotion.com/new-ideas-f2/zuu-t633.htm

I've been on other forums, and there, people replies to your thread. Here, you only get one or two that will reply. Nobody is helping each other here and you call that a community? That's the most pathetic excuse for a community I've ever seen.

Well, this IS a very small community, and the last time I posted an idea I only got one reply.

Sean Okotami wrote:

S-Guy wrote:

When I read that I imagined you saying it SO fast.

But yeah, It's true. We should check out everyone's ideas, not just our own, or one person's, etc.

Then, why is nobody doing it? I got no comment yet for this: https://felarya.forumotion.com/new-ideas-f2/zuu-t633.htm

I've been on other forums, and there, people replies to your thread. Here, you only get one or two that will reply. Nobody is helping each other here and you call that a community? That's the most pathetic excuse for a community I've ever seen.

You are beginning to be annoying here
First, like S-guy pointed, it's still a small community.
Then you would surely have more people comment your stuff if you were nicer and behaved less agressively in general.

I just can't get the aggressive me out of my system when I get in an argument. Fact of the matter is that too few replies to ideas in general. Being a small community is no excuse not to give someone feedback. Now, I just can't type anything without sounding aggressive. Who wouldn't be peeved when you get slim to no feedback in whatever you do?

You could use smileys... XD

Anyway, yes, being in a small community IS an excuse. Now, if a lot of people are busy for some undetermined amount of time, maybe NOT on the computer, they can't exactly respond to everything while they're at it. Unless they're psychic. Or they have a laptop. Or something else.

On the flip side, why would anyone bother to offer constructive criticism to someone who's hostile and dismissive? Several people in this thread alone have made excellent points in regards to that ridiculous argument about the entirety of Felarya revolving around Crisis' character development or lack of it.

I believe your response was something along the lines of "Whatever", when you weren't being openly insulting. I'm not going to flame you or anything; but before you start lashing out at this "pathetic excuse for a community" over something you posted this morning, you seriously might consider cutting back on the attitude.

We all wish people would be outgoing with their reactions to our ideas, but this forum just doesn't get as much traffic as we might be used to from say, Eka's or Gaia. People do comment, but it takes time, and getting impatient or demanding often scares people off from posting.

I very much agree with the original idea of this thread, that being we need to begin focusing on deepening and refining the existing ideas, with a focus on what has already made it to the wiki in order to reach the maximum audience. The major sentient species in particular need more depth, not just with sub-races, but with cities, social quirks, common community types, etc. Perhaps even a series of race-specific brainstorming and discussion threads for each major race. Eg: Naga, Dridder, Fairy, Neko, Human, Elf, Harpy, Centaur, Mermaid.

I have a feeling that these 9 categories could amass enough detail to merit entire sub-forums for their discussion, with threads like History, Interspecies relations, Mating habits, Social Structure, Subspecies, etc.

Currently, the organization of the boards is a weak point in relation to the propagation of new ideas.

In fact, I think I'll make that an official suggestion.

I will add this thing. In my opinion when you create an OC, I think it will be interesting to give him/her three things:

1)a Past: where she/he comes from, her/his origin etc...

2)a Present: how you develop her/him in your story

3)a Future: give her/him a situation where other writers can borrow her/him without risking to change it too much. By example she has her own territory where she has a normal life for a predator or she/he lives in a town or travel through the world.

I see many people create many interesting characters but when their own story is finished. The character has difficulty to live after.

I hope this will help.