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PostSubject: Re: The Society   The Society - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Jul 24, 2008 7:48 pm

And, well, I'll start off by saying this: Do you even read the wiki? Lots of this has been explained already:

An assault launched by some advanced race that wanted to nuke Felarya from space wouldn't work either. Felarya actually has no "space." The world is contained within a "self-plane," meaning that if you fired a rocket from Felarya's ground into space, the rocket would exit Felarya at a certain point and enter a regular, but random dimension, of the universe, one with which Felarya is currently connected. In short, you can't target Felarya from space because it is just not there. The only way to do it would be to fire randomly into space and hope the shot would pass through a dimension currently connected to it and hit it from there. And assuming the universe is infinite, the chance of this would be one in... infinity.

Quoted STRAIGHT out of the wiki. You obviously haven't read that though, so go ahead. -_-
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PostSubject: Re: The Society   The Society - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Jul 24, 2008 7:51 pm

Delicious Kevin wrote:
The point is, Felarya could always use some back up.
This I agree with, what I was countering was the notion that it's effectively defenseless.

S-Guy, that gate was the most exact one on Felarya, a one of a kind, and made by a long gone civilization. Most of them aren't as accurate as that gate.
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PostSubject: Re: The Society   The Society - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Jul 24, 2008 7:52 pm

Malahite wrote:
Delicious Kevin wrote:
The point is, Felarya could always use some back up.
This I agree with, what I was countering was the notion that it's effectively defenseless.

S-Guy, that gate was the most exact one on Felarya, a one of a kind, and made by a long gone civilization. Most of them aren't as accurate as that gate.

You apparently didn't read all of that post, or at least understand it. The only reason I mentioned the gate was to point out the reason that the race had for declaring war on Felarya.
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PostSubject: Re: The Society   The Society - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Jul 24, 2008 8:05 pm

My first active duty assignment was Ali Al Salem AFB in Kuwait, 54th Signal Battalion, ARCENT-Kuwait. It's great that you're passionate about your hobbies, but some of us have been doing this for years. It's possible that maybe we know a thing or two as well.

I really don't want to get in a flame war or pissing contest, but your idea has some serious flaws with it, and you requested feedback. So far, I haven't seen anyone posting "rude shit", like you requested. Can you please just calm down, and consider the possibility that your idea could use some fine-tuning?

There's a lot that goes into an invasion, and the most crucial elements (as with any other large-scale military action) are of a logistical nature. Numbers and technological superiority don't have nearly as much to do with it- if you can't keep your troops well-fed and well-supplied, you've lost the battle. You can feel free to argue the point, but I have thousands of years of history on my side.

Russia had allies, yes. But they didn't need allies to fight off the Germans when they tried to invade Siberia. That invasion was never going to succeed, for several reasons. The Germans were unfamiliar with the terrain, and completely unprepared for Siberian winter... by the time the Russians sent in fresh troops, the German invasion force was already on its last legs.

You're making the assumption that "Felarya's military" is a handful of tribal shamans and a few giant warriors. I'm sure most would-be invaders make that same mistake, and they don't learn how wrong they are until they've already committed to an invasion that never really stood a chance to begin with.
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PostSubject: Re: The Society   The Society - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Jul 24, 2008 8:10 pm

I think I'm just going to sit on the sidelines and watch, I feel like this is going to be a flame war. Mad
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PostSubject: Re: The Society   The Society - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Jul 24, 2008 8:36 pm

TheQuantumMechanic wrote:

You're making the assumption that "Felarya's military" is a handful of tribal shamans and a few giant warriors. I'm sure most would-be invaders make that same mistake, and they don't learn how wrong they are until they've already committed to an invasion that never really stood a chance to begin with.
Beware my friend a tribal shaman is very dangerous he is not powerful than the mage but an entire army who has been exterminated by a natural catastrophy and many general die in a mysterious condition, letting the doctor clueless. In general it's like they hit.

And another you can not nuke Felarya due to the fact it doesn't possess plane. So when you will drop your bomb it will explode somewhere but not in Felarya.
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PostSubject: Re: The Society   The Society - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Jul 24, 2008 8:37 pm

Actually, one CAN nuke Felarya. Planes can still drop it manually, soldiers can still plant them, etc.
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PostSubject: Re: The Society   The Society - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Jul 24, 2008 8:47 pm

Right. There's still plenty of viable delivery systems for nukes, you're just not going to be doing any orbital bombardment.

... Heck, Malahite. Now you have me picturing some poor schmuck running out of a portal with an M-388. Smile Good ole Davy Crockett. lol!

Edit: I'm also highly in agreement with the following:

gwadahunter2222 wrote:
Beware my friend a tribal shaman is very dangerous he is not powerful than the mage but an entire army who has been exterminated by a natural catastrophy and many general die in a mysterious condition, letting the doctor clueless. In general it's like they hit.

One of the biggest problems modern military vehicles of any type face is the environment. Against an opponent who can control the environment, your technological edge is going to be meaningless. Tanks can't operate safely in forests or broken terrain, and neither fixed- or rotary-wing aircraft can operate safely in stormy conditions. Pretty much all it would take to stop a modern military force with conventional weapons is a bunch of powerful druids, shamans, etc. Anyone capable of manipulating the environment is going to be able to neutralize the majority of an invasion force's weaponry.
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