Vanags

A 40' feet tall creature with the front body of an eagle, and the rear body of a lion. They exist on many worlds, where they are usually named griffins and much smaller. However, those who adapted to Felarya has evolved quite from their origial attributes, and are now refered as griffons. The front body is usually that of a bald eagle. It includes the white head, the front legs beings the eagle's talons, the chest, and the gigantic eagle wings. Felaryan griffons has a long black mane, more similar to a horse mane than a lion mane, that runs along the back, stopping near the rear legs. The rear body is that of a lion. From the abdomen to the rear lion legs. The most particular feature of Felaryan griffons is the tail. Instead of a lion tail, they have a big peacock tail. The tail is special has when opened, it drains the mana of whatever the griffon is pointing. It doesn't steal the mana, it simply forces the creature's mana to consume itself. As such, Felaryan griffon poses an enormous threats to magic users like fairies.

Griffon also weilds some limited wind magic. While incapable of vacuuming or blowing up preys, the can create strong wings by flapping their wings. Sometimes generating small whirlwinds. Griffons are essentially carnivorous, prefering to kill big preys, and tearing them down before eating them. However, they feed on fruits on occasion, as well as small preys. While non-sentient, griffons are quite intelligent, and can be tamed. Taming a griffon is very difficult, near-impossible, as they are very territorial and protective of their youngs. Feral Griffons are quite dangerous, and don't hesitate to attack whatever in their path, be it a foe or a meal. They possess formidable strength, and their talons are very sharp. While not very numerous in Felarya in general, they tend to concentrate a lot around deserts, canyons, and mountain regions. Griffon are typically social creatures, living in packs and taking care of their youngs, while being led by a pack leader, usually a female. However, they typically hunt alone. It's very rare to find a griffon anywhere else than around arid zones. The most probable reason would be looking for a source of water like a river.

An idea of Griffon is interesting but they are too classical.

gwadahunter2222 wrote:

An idea of Griffon is interesting but they are too classical.

Well, we NEED more classicals since many classical beast can be found in Felarya.

I know classical beast can be found like dragon but they need something which make them more original and unique

gwadahunter2222 wrote:

I know classical beast can be found like dragon but they need something which make them more original and unique

So what if it isn't original and unique? Not everything in Felarya is 100% original. This place needs more classic, and I'm supplying them with classic. If every single critter needs to be original, then it's no wonder it's so slow to expand.

Nothing is 100% original or unique however just follow the classical without trying to change some point make the world too much generic.
What making something original is the fact it possess something that define it.

By example we have mermaid, fairies, naga etc... But they have something original and different, in clear they have an identity or a specificity which define then.

gwadahunter2222 wrote:

Nothing is 100% original or unique however just follow the classical without trying to change some point make the world too much generic.
What making something original is the fact it possess something that define it.

By example we have mermaid, fairies, naga etc... But they have something original and different, in clear they have an identity or a specificity which define then.

Then what do you have against griffons? The nagas and mermaids are nothing original here. Size aside, they are still the generic mermaids and nagas. I changed a point of the griffon: peacock tail that forces mana consumption of whoever staring at it and limited wind magic.

Read my answer in your thread classical racism.

If you compare Anko to the little Mermaid you will see some difference, if you compare Melany, Aya, Temi, Kiki toTinklebell in Peter Pan you will see some difference.

You complain why people don't comment your idea but when I see your reaction I understand why.

gwadahunter2222 wrote:

Read my answer in your thread classical racism.

If you compare Anko to the little Mermaid you will see some difference, if you compare Melany, Aya, Temi, Kiki toTinklebell in Peter Pan you will see some difference.

You complain why people don't comment your idea but when I see your reaction I understand why.

So, what do you propose to make griffons more original then? And before you ask, I have the bad habit of becoming an ass every time I get annoyed, which is pretty easy. I'm actually a nice guy, but I hate it when I get slim to no praise or feedback in everything I do.

Hello.

While your changes did make it seem adapted for life in Felarya, your Griffon still feels a little incomplete. I'd like to know more about it. May I suggest imagining how it would react to other species and how it would navigate its habitat? Its wind magic is interesting- would it be used to hunt flying prey? Does it actively hunt magical creatures that would normally be powerful yet would find themselves defenseless if faced with a Griffon? Do they compete with harpies for food? Are they the bane of vortex tigers?

I wish to help, not to anger.

Well, they react fiercely to anything that enter their territories. They try to leave no survivors. Their wind magic is a bit for defense and a bit for hunting. Yes, they do compete with Harpies for food, often resulting in a battle royale between the two. They don't really actively hunt magical being, their ability to force the consumption of mana is to help defend against their vulnerability of magic. It's not bullet proof, as it only consume so much mana at once before doing it again. They hunt pretty much anything in range. Maybe except Dryads since they are so difficult to spot casually, but would fight if provoked. They would navigate around their habitat mostly by flying, but would walk for short distances. They are pretty aggressive, so if they encountered a naga in the forest to drink, they would fight. The Griffon would actually try to kill the naga, and bring it back to feed its brood. They are not really the bane of Vortex Tigers, they are more the bane of Mermaids. Harpies consider them freaks for having the lower body of a lion, reminiscent of sphinxes, and sphinxes calls them mongrels for the upper body of a bird of prey. I think anything that would challenge them for sky suppremacy would be their enemies, mainly harpries and sphinxes.

I think I'm really liking them now. They seem kind of badass for having a peacock tail.

They are non-sentient.

Sorry to be a prick, but I firmly oppose this idea, on the grounds that your logic for including it offends me.

We DON'T need more "classic" monsters. For the love of the gods, making up your OWN monsters is half the fun of a fantasy world in itself! Personally, I think we've got too many variations of mythical monsters as it is.

Felarya is a fantasy world. And the folks responsible for it are on the VERY short list of people I've ever met who can make a fantasy world worth crap. Why? Because they don't feel obligated to fill it with every mythical being ever concieved. That idea has been done to death, then dug up and done some more.

Felarya is an exotic and alien place. Including something recognizeable like a gryphon just makes it cheaper and less interesting.

Now, if you had submitted this because you liked the design of a quadrupedal eagle, I'd suggest giving it a new name and a non-chimeric design, and simply saying it's a predatory bird that evolved a quadrupedal stance.

But no, you did this because you think Felarya is too original. And that, to be honest, disgusts me.

GREGOLE wrote:

Sorry to be a prick, but I firmly oppose this idea, on the grounds that your logic for including it offends me.

We DON'T need more "classic" monsters. For the love of the gods, making up your OWN monsters is half the fun of a fantasy world in itself! Personally, I think we've got too many variations of mythical monsters as it is.

Felarya is a fantasy world. And the folks responsible for it are on the VERY short list of people I've ever met who can make a fantasy world worth crap. Why? Because they don't feel obligated to fill it with every mythical being ever concieved. That idea has been done to death, then dug up and done some more.

Felarya is an exotic and alien place. Including something recognizeable like a gryphon just makes it cheaper and less interesting.

Now, if you had submitted this because you liked the design of a quadrupedal eagle, I'd suggest giving it a new name and a non-chimeric design, and simply saying it's a predatory bird that evolved a quadrupedal stance.

But no, you did this because you think Felarya is too original. And that, to be honest, disgusts me.

You don't need to be an ass. I get comebacks for being aggressive, while you don't. That's unfair, I'm not original at all, so it's near impossible for me to make original creatures. You don't like it, fine! But that doesn't stop me from having them in my story. Now, I know it's getting personal, but why is it you're always opposed to whatever I do? Why can't we never be on the same wavelength no matter what I do?

GREGOLE wrote:

Sorry to be a prick, but I firmly oppose this idea, on the grounds that your logic for including it offends me.

We DON'T need more "classic" monsters. For the love of the gods, making up your OWN monsters is half the fun of a fantasy world in itself! Personally, I think we've got too many variations of mythical monsters as it is.

Felarya is a fantasy world. And the folks responsible for it are on the VERY short list of people I've ever met who can make a fantasy world worth crap. Why? Because they don't feel obligated to fill it with every mythical being ever concieved. That idea has been done to death, then dug up and done some more.

Felarya is an exotic and alien place. Including something recognizeable like a gryphon just makes it cheaper and less interesting.

Now, if you had submitted this because you liked the design of a quadrupedal eagle, I'd suggest giving it a new name and a non-chimeric design, and simply saying it's a predatory bird that evolved a quadrupedal stance.

But no, you did this because you think Felarya is too original. And that, to be honest, disgusts me.

I respect this point of view because there are some verities inside but I think a griffon is not a bad idea.

If it's just to input griffons because Felarya it's a fantasy world ok, in that case you're right.

However if someone use this idea and flesh it in a different way than the classical and the myth.

Why not, you should give this idea its chance

gwadahunter2222 wrote:

GREGOLE wrote:

Sorry to be a prick, but I firmly oppose this idea, on the grounds that your logic for including it offends me.

We DON'T need more "classic" monsters. For the love of the gods, making up your OWN monsters is half the fun of a fantasy world in itself! Personally, I think we've got too many variations of mythical monsters as it is.

Felarya is a fantasy world. And the folks responsible for it are on the VERY short list of people I've ever met who can make a fantasy world worth crap. Why? Because they don't feel obligated to fill it with every mythical being ever concieved. That idea has been done to death, then dug up and done some more.

Felarya is an exotic and alien place. Including something recognizeable like a gryphon just makes it cheaper and less interesting.

Now, if you had submitted this because you liked the design of a quadrupedal eagle, I'd suggest giving it a new name and a non-chimeric design, and simply saying it's a predatory bird that evolved a quadrupedal stance.

But no, you did this because you think Felarya is too original. And that, to be honest, disgusts me.

I respect this point of view because there are some verities inside but I think a griffon is not a bad idea.

If it's just to input griffons because Felarya it's a fantasy world ok, in that case you're right.

However if someone use this idea and flesh it in a different way than the classical and the myth.

Why not, you should give this idea its chance

Exactly! I'm trying to flesh it differently than the myth! Seriously, I don't want to bring clichés in Felarya.

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You don't need to be an ass. I get comebacks for being aggressive, while you don't. That's unfair,

Uh, YEAH, RIGHT.

Whenever I get out of line, I get told, and I always apologize for it. Hell, if I start making an ass of myself, I apologize even if I think I'm still right.

But I make a lot of facetious remarks, AND am a total smartass. And most people around here recognize that I'm being facetious and treat it as such. Hell, it's part of the reason my friends and I get along so well.

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That's unfair, I'm not original at all, so it's near impossible for me to make original creatures.

So either A. It's not your strong field and you shouldn't do it, or B. You need to practice until you are good at it.

Take your pick. But don't try to turn your affliction on Felarya just because you don't think it's fair. Because THAT is even less fair.

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Now, I know it's getting personal, but why is it you're always opposed to whatever I do? Why can't we never be on the same wavelength no matter what I do?

Because you and I think differently.
Normally, that's not a big deal.
But when you make a statement like "Felarya has too many original monsters", then I'm forced to step up and oppose you.

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I don't want to bring clichés in Felarya.

Except for the part where you blatantly stated that you do.

So what? You want me to take this thread down?

Sean Okotami wrote:

So what? You want me to take this thread down?

This thread can still serve a constructive purpose, but only if you're willing to let it. Let me know if you are, and can leave the personal stuff out of it, and I'll discuss your idea.

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So what? You want me to take this thread down?

-_- Quantum is right. Man is he right....

You take things WAY too personally.
All you did was post an idea. An idea that I didn't like, and for reasons that I didn't like. I had to say something. Why? Because I have to say something about everything I feel strongly about.

I have NEVER personally insulted you, nor indirectly insulted you through your ideas.

I do NOT hate you. Don't get me wrong, I find your constant whining about how supposedly everyone hates you extremely irritating. But if you would just let that kind of stuff go already, we could get along.

I can't let it go. That habit plagued me for years and I can't take it anymore.... I want to take this habit down...but I just can't....

Can't we just have as a mundane beastie and not a key defining fauna?

Sean Okotami wrote:

I can't let it go. That habit plagued me for years and I can't take it anymore.... I want to take this habit down...but I just can't....

No offense, but this is one of the things that makes it fairly obvious that you're young. You really do need to let it go, and you're better off than most people with the same problem, because you at least recognize that there is a problem. That means that you can do something about it.

Something that might help is every time you have the urge to quickly respond to something posted here that upsets you, go away from the computer for five minutes or so. Do something else for a while, and then come back and re-read the post. You might be surprised how different the tone seems once you've had time to think about what the person is really saying.

Edit: And please change the title of the thread back. Deleting the entire thread isn't really going to lead to any kind of progress on your idea, and you seem to be the only one who is suggesting throwing it away entirely.

Thats kinda like how I judge my art. Sure, when you're in fourth grade and you draw something it looks amazingly brilliant, but when you go back and look at it years later and you notice that the head isn't even touching the neck, you wonder what they put in the school lunches back then.