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L'Ryn Temple scourge
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| Subject: Dream/Protector Elemental Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:03 pm | |
| Dream Elemental
A Dream Elemental is unique to every sentient thing on Felarya, anything capable of having a True Dream has a unique Dream Elemental to them. Dream Elementals can resemble anything from a human, to a giant monster made of cottage cheese and clouds of cotton candy.
A Dream Elemental is created in the Dreaming as a weak spirit, and when they are old enough (beginning teen years for them, decades old to others), they are sent to become bonded to a sentient, although some spirits merge together to become a stronger spirit and then create a body out of the usual elements (fire, air, water etc...)
However, since they exist mostly inside their hosts head and on their brain waves, usually being too weak to twist and manipulate say water into a host body, spinning their Dream Weaves to create sweet dreams or nightmares for their host, they are not known or seen and cannot be eaten.
Dream Elementals gain their strength from the Memories of their host, they feed on these memories, which is why as we get older we forget things. However, Dream Elementals are known to put 'important' memories into 'storage', in case they would ever be needed again.
Dream Elementals though, despite seemingly to be strong spirits, are actually rather weak since all of their power is focused into the Host, a symbotic relationship in a way. However, power hungry ones often begin to sap away the energy of the host, or (in a mage's case) consume their mana... or even consume the soul, taking the body as their own.
When the Host dies (or in Felarya, eaten) , a Dream Elemental returns to the Dreaming to live out eternity.
However, if a Dream Elemental gains too much power for the Dreaming, developing powers beyond the norm (telekinses, psychic abilities affecting more then one person at a time), they are immediatly banished for all existence, forced to wander the universe forever. Many of these Elementals go mad with loneliness, destroying themselves from the inside out and becoming something known as a Hole.
Holes are greatly feared by the peace loving and happy folk of the Dreaming, for coming forth from these Holes is Darkness. Darker then the Darkness Elementals, this Darkness once threatened to consume all of the Dreaming, if it hadn't been for the sacrafice of a group of Dream Elementals, the Dreaming would have been consumed... and the Dreaming is a direct path to Felarya.
These holes seem to be multiplying recently though... and the influx of powerful Dream Elementals has remained the same... maybe even petering slightly.
Going into the Dreaming/Dreamworld is NOT ADVISED UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. Dream Elementals there are for one, much bigger then a puny human, and two... very hungry
Behavior- A Dream Elemental's behavoir is as varied as their 'hosts', so it would be futile to try to assign one specific behavoir as a whole besides the fact they all eat memories. Sometimes it is said that a Dream Elemental is nothing more then a piece of imagination given life... and maybe they are.
Protector Elemental
From the remains of a Dream Elemental who used themselves as 'plugs' for the Holes, these 'wake up' on Felarya and become immediatly attatched to whatever they see first, be it a tree, rock, or whatever else. Curiously, unlike their counterparts, they are completely lacking of gender.
Protector Elementals protect their object of attatchment with dangerous ferocity, some of them even chain their attachments somewhere, keeping them hidden away...
Protector Elemetals usually make bodies for themselves from whatever they wake up on first, even a body of say... a elf, can be manipulated and used as a body for a Protector Elemental, while the soul of the original bearer of the body is kicked out.
Protector Elementals are as dangerous as any other hungry predator on Felarya, prefering to swallow their prey whole and alive. Like any Dream Elemental, they are all unique. Some use swords, some use magic, some look like wolves, some look like nekos, others look like giant cherry trees who can move around using their roots. It all depends upon what kind of Dream Elemental they spawned forth from. But they can all warp things smaller or the same size as them into their stomachs when their prey is weakened.
Some people classify Protector Elementals as 'sub-elementals', since the few reported cases of Protector Elementals had some manipulation over other elements such as water or stone and the fact that they unlike other elementals, often look flesh and blood, and the fact they are bent on protecting their attatchment, rather then living life as any elemental would.
Since they are so rare, it's been said when the attatchment passes away or is killed, the Protector Elemental 'fades' away, to join them no matter where they go... a bond so strong, death cannot break it...
Behavior- A Protector Elemental can be a seemingly calm quiet person to a completely crazy and irrational creature bent only on protecting their attatchment from everything that could ever harm it. However, the more 'saner' of the Protectors (and it's agreed they are all pretty crazy in the first place), are almost aways at the side of their attatchment, whether they know it or not. A attatched person, be it neko or human or even elf, will have almost nothing to worry about as they walk through Felarya. These people are often said to be 'lucky'.
Last edited by L'Ryn on Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:34 pm; edited 7 times in total | |
| | | /Fish/ Hero
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| Subject: Re: Dream/Protector Elemental Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:29 pm | |
| These are very original and interesting!
Just the thing that bugs me is that they don't really seem like Felaryan elementals in the sense that they seem to be powerful spirits, yes, but residing in the subconscious brainwave patterns that comprise sleep in sentient creatures seems a little too precise a role for many elementals. I guess I'm trying to say that some random elemental takes the form of the "brainwave" energy of dreams and develops psychic abilities, that seems to fit more into what an elemental in Felarya is described as.
Elementals themselves are a race, and don't necessarily have any specific roles or traits until they take a body of matter or energy. Maybe these could be tweaked for your use as a Dream Elemental as a possible form for an ordinary elemental to take or even if they could be a seperate kind of entity apart from elementals.
Don't mean to bash. ^^ | |
| | | L'Ryn Temple scourge
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| Subject: Re: Dream/Protector Elemental Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:44 pm | |
| I could tweak it, maybe they were spirits born into the Dreaming, and sent to become Dream Elementals, of course, they could possibly take any other course they want, but most would become Dream Elementals. Would that sound better then?
I was honestly more worried about the Holes and Protector Elementals then the Dream Elementals. XD
EDIT Edited it... better? | |
| | | /Fish/ Hero
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| Subject: Re: Dream/Protector Elemental Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:59 pm | |
| - L'Ryn wrote:
- I could tweak it, maybe they were spirits born into the Dreaming, and sent to become Dream Elementals, of course, they could possibly take any other course they want, but most would become Dream Elementals. Would that sound better then?
Still not too sure on the Dreaming and Hole things. They seem to be affiliations of something... Different... Hmm. A basic overview of how I see a dream elemental: "An elemental that has chosen a non-tangeable form that is comprised of a body composed largely of magic and taking the form of electromagnetic waves that are synchronous with those found in REM sleep of sentient creatures. Since they, by nature, do not have the corporeal form needed for the consumption of physical nourishment, they rely on vast amounts of magic to survive and they also possess the ability to enter and interact with the dreams of sentient creatures. If you're a powerful mage or an often dreamer, a dream elemental can seem to haunt you, draining your mana while awake and eating your dreams while asleep. Since they do not rely on a corporeal form, they typically take any form they like, so long as their current level of nourishment provides the energy necessary for size and form shifting. They may take the form of images from the real world or abstract ones from the dream world of their current "host" and are proficient at making that which happens in sleep into waking dreams and nightmares for certain specimens with decent illusion magic. Despite their strongly magical nature, dream elementals are not typically very powerful. They seem to get along well with ghosts for some reason..." - L'Ryn wrote:
- I was honestly more worried about the Holes and Protector Elementals then the Dream Elementals. XD
Now about protector elementals... Perhaps focusing on the Dream Elementals should be our main focus for now. ^^; I can't really think of much on these, other than that most elementals would have to be magically attached and bound to a living human or human body... Hmm. And would these dream elementals be anything like this? | |
| | | L'Ryn Temple scourge
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| Subject: Re: Dream/Protector Elemental Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:51 am | |
| - /Fish/ wrote:
- L'Ryn wrote:
- I could tweak it, maybe they were spirits born into the Dreaming, and sent to become Dream Elementals, of course, they could possibly take any other course they want, but most would become Dream Elementals. Would that sound better then?
Still not too sure on the Dreaming and Hole things. They seem to be affiliations of something... Different... Hmm.
A basic overview of how I see a dream elemental:
"An elemental that has chosen a non-tangeable form that is comprised of a body composed largely of magic and taking the form of electromagnetic waves that are synchronous with those found in REM sleep of sentient creatures. Since they, by nature, do not have the corporeal form needed for the consumption of physical nourishment, they rely on vast amounts of magic to survive and they also possess the ability to enter and interact with the dreams of sentient creatures. If you're a powerful mage or an often dreamer, a dream elemental can seem to haunt you, draining your mana while awake and eating your dreams while asleep. Since they do not rely on a corporeal form, they typically take any form they like, so long as their current level of nourishment provides the energy necessary for size and form shifting. They may take the form of images from the real world or abstract ones from the dream world of their current "host" and are proficient at making that which happens in sleep into waking dreams and nightmares for certain specimens with decent illusion magic. Despite their strongly magical nature, dream elementals are not typically very powerful. They seem to get along well with ghosts for some reason..."
- L'Ryn wrote:
- I was honestly more worried about the Holes and Protector Elementals then the Dream Elementals. XD
Now about protector elementals... Perhaps focusing on the Dream Elementals should be our main focus for now. ^^; I can't really think of much on these, other than that most elementals would have to be magically attached and bound to a living human or human body... Hmm.
And would these dream elementals be anything like this? You see, Fish, I was planning on Dream Elementals being symbotic with their hosts, like a lung, not malignant tumors. Not everything on Felarya has to be bad for the human/neko/elf/put-whatever-you-want-here. The idea of them draining Mana seems a little too tumor-y for me, so instead they feast on memories. If you have amnesia, it's likely because of a pissed of Dream Elemental (since pain to the host's head hits them as well, and since they can't magically spring forth from the body without a powerful spell the host casts) has consumed them. Dream Elementals are NOT supposed to be powerful, they CAN be malignant, and bad memories are very good power sources for them, especially ones involving death. The 'bad' memories don't fade though, which is something the Dream Elementals don't understand. I also predict them having some sway over their host's personality, because of the memory consuming nature they have. Although if you WANT them to be so harmful to their host, maybe they can very briefly possess said host, and make them do something stupid (like walk into the waiting mouth of a dryad) (Bwuhahaha, some comic book readers will know the references made!) EDIT I edited, is this more to your taste now? XD | |
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| Subject: Re: Dream/Protector Elemental Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:22 pm | |
| - L'Ryn wrote:
- I edited, is this more to your taste now? XD
Dream elementals that are whimiscal as well as dangerous and protector elementals that are more of a bound defender than guardian angel/good luck charm? Yes. | |
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| Subject: Re: Dream/Protector Elemental Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:49 pm | |
| Very original ideas! I don't think I've ever seen anything quite like them, and they raise some interesting possibilities. | |
| | | Arcamenel Helpless prey
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| Subject: Re: Dream/Protector Elemental Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:08 pm | |
| maybe dream elementals can only be summoned by angels? since dreams are somewhat immaterial.
and the interesting possibility would probably be to be eaten while in a dream.
but if that happens would it still be a dream? and the soul is devoured instead of the body, in which case leaving it vulnerable to a predator? | |
| | | blademan9999 Roaming thug
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| Subject: Re: Dream/Protector Elemental Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:42 am | |
| - L'Ryn wrote:
Protector Elementals protect their object of attatchment with dangerous ferocity, some of them even chain their attachments somewhere, keeping them hidden away...
A Protector Elemental can be a seemingly calm quiet person to a completely crazy and irrational creature bent only on protecting their attatchment from everything that could ever harm it. However, the more 'saner' of the Protectors (and it's agreed they are all pretty crazy in the first place), are almost aways at the side of their attatchment, whether they know it or not. A attatched person, be it neko or human or even elf, will have almost nothing to worry about as they walk through Felarya. These people are often said to be 'lucky'. so some of them keep their object of attachment chained away, and their object of attachment can be a human or an elf or a neko. so this means a protector elemental might chain someone away | |
| | | blademan9999 Roaming thug
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| Subject: Re: Dream/Protector Elemental Fri Jun 05, 2009 4:44 am | |
| could someone please post here? | |
| | | /Fish/ Hero
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| Subject: Re: Dream/Protector Elemental Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:11 am | |
| - blademan9999 wrote:
- could someone please post here?
Not if they don't feel like it. So don't spam. | |
| | | Malahite Cog in the Machine
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| Subject: Re: Dream/Protector Elemental Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:19 am | |
| Only thing I dislike is - if I'm reading it right - everyone having an elemental to them. I don't like the idea of every person having a Dream Elemental to them, but I can't really word why properly. It doesn't seem... right. It's a unique and well thought out idea to be sure, but I can't see it happening. | |
| | | L'Ryn Temple scourge
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| Subject: Re: Dream/Protector Elemental Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:30 pm | |
| - Malahite wrote:
- Only thing I dislike is - if I'm reading it right - everyone having an elemental to them. I don't like the idea of every person having a Dream Elemental to them, but I can't really word why properly. It doesn't seem... right. It's a unique and well thought out idea to be sure, but I can't see it happening.
Everyone has a dream Elemental to them. Everyone who can dream that is. I doubt kensha beasts or zombies have them. | |
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| Subject: Re: Dream/Protector Elemental Fri Jun 05, 2009 2:09 pm | |
| - L'Ryn wrote:
- Malahite wrote:
- Only thing I dislike is - if I'm reading it right - everyone having an elemental to them. I don't like the idea of every person having a Dream Elemental to them, but I can't really word why properly. It doesn't seem... right. It's a unique and well thought out idea to be sure, but I can't see it happening.
Everyone has a dream Elemental to them. Everyone who can dream that is. I doubt kensha beasts or zombies have them. animals have dreams too, you know. even some insects have dreams. | |
| | | L'Ryn Temple scourge
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| Subject: Re: Dream/Protector Elemental Fri Jun 05, 2009 2:12 pm | |
| - Reptillian wrote:
- L'Ryn wrote:
- Malahite wrote:
- Only thing I dislike is - if I'm reading it right - everyone having an elemental to them. I don't like the idea of every person having a Dream Elemental to them, but I can't really word why properly. It doesn't seem... right. It's a unique and well thought out idea to be sure, but I can't see it happening.
Everyone has a dream Elemental to them. Everyone who can dream that is. I doubt kensha beasts or zombies have them. animals have dreams too, you know. even some insects have dreams. No they don't. | |
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| Subject: Re: Dream/Protector Elemental Fri Jun 05, 2009 2:21 pm | |
| How do you know they don't? | |
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| Subject: Re: Dream/Protector Elemental Fri Jun 05, 2009 2:34 pm | |
| you can see it on the way they move while they sleep...THEY DREAM | |
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| Subject: Re: Dream/Protector Elemental Fri Jun 05, 2009 2:47 pm | |
| - Reptillian wrote:
animals have dreams too, you know. even some insects have dreams. I don't know about insects, but yes, indeed, animals have dreams. I used to have dogs, and they had dreams, sometimes pleasant, sometimes not. They would sometimes "walk" or "run" while lying on their side asleep, their legs moving. Occasionally they barked or whimpered and twitched in their sleep. It was quite strange to watch. | |
| | | L'Ryn Temple scourge
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| Subject: Re: Dream/Protector Elemental Fri Jun 05, 2009 2:54 pm | |
| - French snack wrote:
- Reptillian wrote:
animals have dreams too, you know. even some insects have dreams. I don't know about insects, but yes, indeed, animals have dreams. I used to have dogs, and they had dreams, sometimes pleasant, sometimes not. They would sometimes "walk" or "run" while lying on their side asleep, their legs moving. Occasionally they barked or whimpered and twitched in their sleep. It was quite strange to watch. They don't have Dream Elementals. There. Problem solved. | |
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| Subject: Re: Dream/Protector Elemental Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:03 pm | |
| so ryn, could you reply to this - L'Ryn wrote:
Protector Elementals protect their object of attatchment with dangerous ferocity, some of them even chain their attachments somewhere, keeping them hidden away...
A Protector Elemental can be a seemingly calm quiet person to a completely crazy and irrational creature bent only on protecting their attatchment from everything that could ever harm it. However, the more 'saner' of the Protectors (and it's agreed they are all pretty crazy in the first place), are almost aways at the side of their attatchment, whether they know it or not. A attatched person, be it neko or human or even elf, will have almost nothing to worry about as they walk through Felarya. These people are often said to be 'lucky'. so some of them keep their object of attachment chained away, and their object of attachment can be a human or an elf or a neko. so this means a protector elemental might chain someone away | |
| | | L'Ryn Temple scourge
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| Subject: Re: Dream/Protector Elemental Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:07 pm | |
| - blademan9999 wrote:
- so ryn, could you reply to this
- L'Ryn wrote:
Protector Elementals protect their object of attatchment with dangerous ferocity, some of them even chain their attachments somewhere, keeping them hidden away...
A Protector Elemental can be a seemingly calm quiet person to a completely crazy and irrational creature bent only on protecting their attatchment from everything that could ever harm it. However, the more 'saner' of the Protectors (and it's agreed they are all pretty crazy in the first place), are almost aways at the side of their attatchment, whether they know it or not. A attatched person, be it neko or human or even elf, will have almost nothing to worry about as they walk through Felarya. These people are often said to be 'lucky'. so some of them keep their object of attachment chained away, and their object of attachment can be a human or an elf or a neko. so this means a protector elemental might chain someone away No. | |
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| Subject: Re: Dream/Protector Elemental Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:08 pm | |
| - L'Ryn wrote:
- blademan9999 wrote:
- so ryn, could you reply to this
- L'Ryn wrote:
Protector Elementals protect their object of attatchment with dangerous ferocity, some of them even chain their attachments somewhere, keeping them hidden away...
A Protector Elemental can be a seemingly calm quiet person to a completely crazy and irrational creature bent only on protecting their attatchment from everything that could ever harm it. However, the more 'saner' of the Protectors (and it's agreed they are all pretty crazy in the first place), are almost aways at the side of their attatchment, whether they know it or not. A attatched person, be it neko or human or even elf, will have almost nothing to worry about as they walk through Felarya. These people are often said to be 'lucky'. so some of them keep their object of attachment chained away, and their object of attachment can be a human or an elf or a neko. so this means a protector elemental might chain someone away
No. but didn't you say that they often chain their object of attachment away, and sometimes their object of attachment is a elf or a human or a neko | |
| | | L'Ryn Temple scourge
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| Subject: Re: Dream/Protector Elemental Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:20 pm | |
| - blademan9999 wrote:
- L'Ryn wrote:
- blademan9999 wrote:
- so ryn, could you reply to this
- L'Ryn wrote:
Protector Elementals protect their object of attatchment with dangerous ferocity, some of them even chain their attachments somewhere, keeping them hidden away...
A Protector Elemental can be a seemingly calm quiet person to a completely crazy and irrational creature bent only on protecting their attatchment from everything that could ever harm it. However, the more 'saner' of the Protectors (and it's agreed they are all pretty crazy in the first place), are almost aways at the side of their attatchment, whether they know it or not. A attatched person, be it neko or human or even elf, will have almost nothing to worry about as they walk through Felarya. These people are often said to be 'lucky'. so some of them keep their object of attachment chained away, and their object of attachment can be a human or an elf or a neko. so this means a protector elemental might chain someone away
No. but didn't you say that they often chain their object of attachment away, and sometimes their object of attachment is a elf or a human or a neko No means I'm answering something that's obvious, Cook. Go away. No one likes you. | |
| | | blademan9999 Roaming thug
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| Subject: Re: Dream/Protector Elemental Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:46 pm | |
| - L'Ryn wrote:
- blademan9999 wrote:
- L'Ryn wrote:
- blademan9999 wrote:
- so ryn, could you reply to this
- L'Ryn wrote:
Protector Elementals protect their object of attatchment with dangerous ferocity, some of them even chain their attachments somewhere, keeping them hidden away...
A Protector Elemental can be a seemingly calm quiet person to a completely crazy and irrational creature bent only on protecting their attatchment from everything that could ever harm it. However, the more 'saner' of the Protectors (and it's agreed they are all pretty crazy in the first place), are almost aways at the side of their attatchment, whether they know it or not. A attatched person, be it neko or human or even elf, will have almost nothing to worry about as they walk through Felarya. These people are often said to be 'lucky'. so some of them keep their object of attachment chained away, and their object of attachment can be a human or an elf or a neko. so this means a protector elemental might chain someone away
No. but didn't you say that they often chain their object of attachment away, and sometimes their object of attachment is a elf or a human or a neko
No means I'm answering something that's obvious, Cook. Go away. No one likes you. what would be interesting is if they could | |
| | | L'Ryn Temple scourge
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| Subject: Re: Dream/Protector Elemental Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:02 pm | |
| - blademan9999 wrote:
what would be interesting is if they could Learn to READ. If it says they do, they do. | |
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