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PostSubject: A concept of idea of a demon   A concept of idea of a demon Icon_minitimeTue Jan 22, 2008 8:20 am

I have a concept idea about a demon girls whose the task is to hunt the damned solus who escape from their fate. I explain in hell, the damned souls are eaten by the succubus but it may happen some of them succeed to escape so the authority send creatures to catch them. I imagined first a demon beast but after I think about giant Oni girl.
An oni is a beast in the japanese folklore see this link for more details http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oni_%28folklore%29

For Menyssan eaten the damned soul is a job, I think many demons activities are just a work and are necessary evil Laughing
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The most I've seen anyone do with and Oni girl. But I do like the concept

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PostSubject: Re: A concept of idea of a demon   A concept of idea of a demon Icon_minitimeTue Jan 22, 2008 10:49 am

I know the concept is not original but I want to adapt it to the logic of Felarya. I have this idea but I don't know how to apply it that's why I post here to have some help Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: A concept of idea of a demon   A concept of idea of a demon Icon_minitimeTue Jan 22, 2008 11:48 am

Interesting concept ^^
They must not have to work often though..
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PostSubject: Re: A concept of idea of a demon   A concept of idea of a demon Icon_minitimeTue Jan 22, 2008 12:44 pm

They don't like Menyssan for that Laughing
It happens they help people to escape to chase them after Very Happy

Still in the concept of a capitalist view of hell, I imagined one day the Queen of the Silver Succubus is at the head of a biggest mettallurgical industry who provide the different metals used for the creation of the differents objects the demons used Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: A concept of idea of a demon   A concept of idea of a demon Icon_minitimeTue Jan 22, 2008 1:44 pm

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They don't like Menyssan for that Laughing
It happens they help people to escape to chase them after Very Happy

Still in the concept of a capitalist view of hell, I imagined one day the Queen of the Silver Succubus is at the head of a biggest mettallurgical industry who provide the different metals used for the creation of the differents objects the demons used Very Happy

Instead of escaping and go to Felarya. You could just have them escape that part of Hell. This way they have a long road ahead of them. Just throwing out random ideas
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PostSubject: Re: A concept of idea of a demon   A concept of idea of a demon Icon_minitimeTue Jan 22, 2008 2:53 pm

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Instead of escaping and go to Felarya. You could just have them escape that part of Hell. This way they have a long road ahead of them. Just throwing out random ideas
Yeah, you're right they will chase her prey in hell, it may happen their preys succeed to leave hell but they can follow them too.

I think this creature suit more to the hell universe than Felarya itself.
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PostSubject: Re: A concept of idea of a demon   A concept of idea of a demon Icon_minitimeTue Jan 22, 2008 5:02 pm

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Instead of escaping and go to Felarya. You could just have them escape that part of Hell. This way they have a long road ahead of them. Just throwing out random ideas
Yeah, you're right they will chase her prey in hell, it may happen their preys succeed to leave hell but they can follow them too.

I think this creature suit more to the hell universe than Felarya itself.

Well no one has really looked into hell. Its open territory.
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PostSubject: Re: A concept of idea of a demon   A concept of idea of a demon Icon_minitimeTue Jan 22, 2008 5:37 pm

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Well no one has really looked into hell. Its open territory.
Because, overall, I'd think it would change depending on the one sent there? *Looks to Karbo and Cypress for approval*

I mean, my version of Hell would be something like Never-Ending torture that can always get worse. Something like the Succubi would barely even register to me after being flayed the thirtieth time while soaking in Vinegar and jabbed full of needles made from salt.
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PostSubject: Re: A concept of idea of a demon   A concept of idea of a demon Icon_minitimeTue Jan 22, 2008 7:18 pm

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xlrp wrote:

Well no one has really looked into hell. Its open territory.
Because, overall, I'd think it would change depending on the one sent there? *Looks to Karbo and Cypress for approval*

I mean, my version of Hell would be something like Never-Ending torture that can always get worse. Something like the Succubi would barely even register to me after being flayed the thirtieth time while soaking in Vinegar and jabbed full of needles made from salt.

That is if you focus on what the humans have to deal with. The there is nothing but never ending sorrow and what not. Now if your like gwadahunter2222 and focus on what the life of one of the demons or a specific demon then you open up new possibilities.
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PostSubject: Re: A concept of idea of a demon   A concept of idea of a demon Icon_minitimeWed Jan 23, 2008 7:58 am

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Because, overall, I'd think it would change depending on the one sent there? *Looks to Karbo and Cypress for approval*

I mean, my version of Hell would be something like Never-Ending torture that can always get worse. Something like the Succubi would barely even register to me after being flayed the thirtieth time while soaking in Vinegar and jabbed full of needles made from salt.

I will try to explain my point of view, when I see the story about Menyssan there was an interesting view of the hell. It was still the world of Never-Ending torture but it was only from the view of the humans but not from the view of some demons it was for them than a task or a job and the creature was not necessary evil like the popular belief. So I want to developp a creature in this kind of vision.

When we see the case of Arale and Menyssan, hell for the demons are very different, a political view with Arale and another view more funny with Menyssan where the demons are seen more as simple worker.

Hell will still be the place where the humans will suffer but it's not necessary for the demons, I think Very Happy

We are here just here to discuss and developp theory and possible concept if you have an idea for a possible entrance for the wiki post in the new idea section and if you want to discuss about it post a link to this thread in order to not charge too much the topic. It's just advice because it's difficult sometime to follow the discussion and comment at the same time without create a midsunderstanding.

I want create a brainstorming here and show the possible results in other thread Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: A concept of idea of a demon   A concept of idea of a demon Icon_minitimeWed Jan 23, 2008 4:41 pm

I'm still like of your giant Oni girl idea or a normal size human sized Oni girl .(Then again I'm a fan of big boobs so that is a requirement) It all depends on what you want to focus on. Well you could use the concept of carrying out orders or punishing something.

For example the demons that escort the humans to Menyssan. You can use that as a base job. Like each Oni has to escort a certain amount of humans to be eaten. And one of her humans escapes and she has get them back. Not because she has to retrieve them Hell will get worse for the human no matter what. She just does not want to get a bad report from her employers.

Or you use an already existing concept. Like in El Portero second story of Elle. (You'll still have to check with him) At the end of the story

"It pleased her(Menyssan) to know that she had helped out an old friend, even so long after her passing. It pleased her to know that, once again, she had helped to administer justice."

off that Making a deal with a devil is bad no matter what happens. Meaning the Person who made the Deal with Menyssan is still in Hell somewhere. You could work with what happened to her. Example Like she get to live the rest of days in hell as demon and her story be about he metal in Hell.
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PostSubject: Re: A concept of idea of a demon   A concept of idea of a demon Icon_minitimeWed Jan 23, 2008 6:25 pm

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Well no one has really looked into hell. Its open territory.

I agree with that, hell is pretty much a free ground for now Razz
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PostSubject: Re: A concept of idea of a demon   A concept of idea of a demon Icon_minitimeWed Jan 23, 2008 7:08 pm

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I'm still like of your giant Oni girl idea or a normal size human sized Oni girl .(Then again I'm a fan of big boobs so that is a requirement) It all depends on what you want to focus on. Well you could use the concept of carrying out orders or punishing something.
Thanks for your advice Very Happy
I think I will focus on the concept of punishment, it may arrive a damned soul arrive to escape so an Oni girl is sent to chase him and give him the punishment he want it to escape. They are the opposite of the case of the damned soul is brought to his punishment (the succubi), the Oni girl bring the punishment to the damned soul Evil laugh
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I'm still like of your giant Oni girl idea or a normal size human sized Oni girl .(Then again I'm a fan of big boobs so that is a requirement) It all depends on what you want to focus on. Well you could use the concept of carrying out orders or punishing something.
Thanks for your advice Very Happy
I think I will focus on the concept of punishment, it may arrive a damned soul arrive to escape so an Oni girl is sent to chase him and give him the punishment he want it to escape. They are the opposite of the case of the damned soul is brought to his punishment (the succubi), the Oni girl bring the punishment to the damned soul Evil laugh

This is a nice idea. Although I was wondering would it apply only to damed souls? Would this also apply to other demons that break the rules of Hell.

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Well no one has really looked into hell. Its open territory.

I agree with that, hell is pretty much a free ground for now Razz

any specific area. The only known area's in hell Erebus the fire region. Acheron ice region. So far there is only Extreme hot and cold. The only thing I was wondering on is this "the fire succubus queen is said to live deep in the fire plane of Hell" Who is the Fire Succubus Queen?
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This is a nice idea. Although I was wondering would it apply only to damed souls? Would this also apply to other demons that break the rules of Hell.
I see them first like low rank demon so I decide to apply them to damned soul first but it's a possibility to extend it to others demons Very Happy
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This is a nice idea. Although I was wondering would it apply only to damed souls? Would this also apply to other demons that break the rules of Hell.
I see them first like low rank demon so I decide to apply them to damned soul first but it's a possibility to extend it to others demons Very Happy

That works. Now to build a character.
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PostSubject: Re: A concept of idea of a demon   A concept of idea of a demon Icon_minitimeThu Jan 24, 2008 3:00 am

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any specific area. The only known area's in hell Erebus the fire region. Acheron ice region. So far there is only Extreme hot and cold. The only thing I was wondering on is this "the fire succubus queen is said to live deep in the fire plane of Hell" Who is the Fire Succubus Queen?

Well no idea yet ^^
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I think about a possibility, this race in function of their size, rank and intelligence or place can have different task in hell.

By example int 4th circle where you find mostly Silver Succubi, you can find the males work as blacksmith or engineer and create many artefacts, objects, weapons and armours used by all the demons

In Erebus, where Menyssan leave you can find by example, the male do the job to bring the damned to the succubus and the females are sent to bring the punishment to the possible fugitive.

In Archeron it will be different, their work can be based on security, by example there is an incredibly huge Oni girls who is working as a living prison when they bring to her the betrayer, she swallow and in function of the sentence she gives to each one of them a slow and painfull punishment or death Evil laugh

Maybe there can be one to each circle Very Happy

Scary isn't it Evil laugh
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I think about a possibility, this race in function of their size, rank and intelligence or place can have different task in hell.

By example int 4th circle where you find mostly Silver Succubi, you can find the males work as blacksmith or engineer and create many artefacts, objects, weapons and armours used by all the demons

In Erebus, where Menyssan leave you can find by example, the male do the job to bring the damned to the succubus and the females are sent to bring the punishment to the possible fugitive.

In Archeron it will be different, their work can be based on security, by example there is an incredibly huge Oni girls who is working as a living prison when they bring to her the betrayer, she swallow and in function of the sentence she gives to each one of them a slow and painfull punishment or death Evil laugh

Maybe there can be one to each circle Very Happy

Scary isn't it Evil laugh

depends on the punishiment. The living prison seem kind of odd. In Hell is already a prison. I don't think death would be much use. Conding you have to die to get to hell. Unless you were talkinga bout punishing deamons.
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depends on the punishiment. The living prison seem kind of odd. In Hell is already a prison. I don't think death would be much use. Conding you have to die to get to hell. Unless you were talkinga bout punishing deamons.

Hell is a prison for the humans but not for all their inhabitant Very Happy
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depends on the punishiment. The living prison seem kind of odd. In Hell is already a prison. I don't think death would be much use. Conding you have to die to get to hell. Unless you were talkinga bout punishing deamons.

Hell is a prison for the humans but not for all their inhabitant Very Happy

I bet Predators go there too.

I almost giggled like a maniac when I imagined a normally huge Predator's reaction when a Mountain-sized Succubi picked them up to torture/kill/eat.
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I bet Predators go there too.

I almost giggled like a maniac when I imagined a normally huge Predator's reaction when a Mountain-sized Succubi picked them up to torture/kill/eat.

Thanks you give an interesting idea Very Happy

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Hm, got a decent question that goes along with this thread.

If someone from a Non-Felaryan universe dies in Felarya, where do they go?

Now, if their world had no afterlife or anything, I'd assume in Felarya it'd be a simple "Go to Felarya Hell". However, what if their own universe DID have their own afterlife(s)?

For example, if a person of the Cult of Ranald died, would he go to the Afterlife Ranald set aside [Hey, pricks can get in there as long as they followed his word well enough], or would he go to Felaryan Hell? Similarly, would a FFVII Character (Only stating two of the easiest examples I could find) go back to the Lifestream, or go to F. Hell?

Because if they go to F. Hell, the Succubi will come across some... 'interesting' characters in the long run.
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That's why I never got the concept of a hell.

It's WAY too confusing, what with a hundred hells and afterlives to choose from.
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