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luke112 Temple scourge
Posts : 613 Join date : 2011-01-21 Location : Underground bunker taking weapon Inventory
| Subject: Re: General Q and A Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:42 pm | |
| Ok thanks next question. Does Negav have a Flag? If so whats the Disign? I mean its only natural for a City state like Negav to have its own flag. Im curious as what it is... | |
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ZionAtriedes Loremaster
Posts : 2010 Join date : 2008-01-13 Age : 32 Location : Behind you. No, above! Oh, too late, I already got you. NINJA SKILLZ!
| Subject: Re: General Q and A Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:47 pm | |
| I'd imagine a symbol relating to the Isolon Eye would feature prominently. I am not aware of any canon flag, however. | |
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Krisexy26 Survivor
Posts : 775 Join date : 2010-01-17 Age : 40 Location : Where the river narrows
| Subject: Re: General Q and A Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:47 pm | |
| A flag representing a city is typically earth-like. if ever negav will have a flag, itll be because theyve been inspired by human from earth, which is unlikely to happen.
and ive been told this before: magiocrats and all that crew do not care about the "design" of the city. meaning that: negav is neutral, grey, not recognized to be a colourful city with so much joy. | |
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rcs619 Felarya cartographer
Posts : 1589 Join date : 2008-04-07 Age : 36
| Subject: Re: General Q and A Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:17 pm | |
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- A flag representing a city is typically earth-like
Ehh, its more about a uniting symbol to form a national identity. Its hardly "earth-like", really. Humans have been using flags/crests/banners and so on before they even knew there was an "earth" and before they even knew what a "human" was. Its just something that pops up within nearly every single organized society to ever exist. - Quote :
- if ever negav will have a flag, itll be because theyve been inspired by human from earth
This is the part that puzzles me. Why earth? Who's to say that they couldn't be inspired by offworlders from another world? Hell, even the Ur-Sagolians likely had a national symbol...and there's strong evidance that more than a few Ur-Sagolians were allowed to assimilate into Negav back when it was a neko settlement. - Quote :
- and ive been told this before: magiocrats and all that crew do not care about the "design" of the city. meaning that: negav is neutral, grey, not recognized to be a colourful city with so much joy.
That's not entirely accurate. Keep in mind, Negav is home to a MASSIVE variety of archecture because of all the immigrants and differing views. You also have to factor in the local influence as well. If the Magiocrats "don't care" about the majority of the city design, then there likely are very few, if any, zoning laws. People can likely paint and decorate their homes/businesses any way they want. I imagine the middle district is fairly colorful, thanks to all the shops, inns and such (bright colors to attract customers). Hell, the low district is probably not that dull either. I could imagine quite a few bars and inns using neon lights and such. The Magiocrats are a government. Every government that has ever existed has had some kind of official symbol, seal or flag. I doubt the Magiocrats are any different. Symbols are powerful things, especially if your government is taking over after kicking out the previous ruler, and your goal is to rebuild a damaged city full of scared and shaken people. You'd NEED a flag to rally behind for that kind of thing to even work. As for how it should look.... I say the same color as the city's walls, with a pale purple eye in the center (the same purple as the Isolon Eye crystal). Maybe some stripes/stars/other little symbols to fill in the empty space. Maybe the smaller symbols could represent the original magiocrat council...so you'd have as many of them as there are seats on the council. Lots of ways to go with it really. Negav isn't some dull grey dystopian state. Its a diverse, likely vibrant trade-hub. | |
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itsmeyouidiot Marauder of the deep jungle
Posts : 385 Join date : 2009-07-27 Age : 31 Location : The Pit
| Subject: Re: General Q and A Thu Sep 08, 2011 5:30 am | |
| I can imagine someone in Negav who came from Earth saying something like "I've been here for 5 years and I still haven't gotten used to this weird place," and the person he's talking to asks, "What's a year?" | |
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Krisexy26 Survivor
Posts : 775 Join date : 2010-01-17 Age : 40 Location : Where the river narrows
| Subject: Re: General Q and A Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:35 am | |
| Alright, let's just clarify something.
A symbol representing negav, for me, will be more like a cross for Christians.
A flag representing negav, for me, will be more like a common flag we have here on earth.
So yeah, I think Negav has a symbol, but not a flag. | |
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rcs619 Felarya cartographer
Posts : 1589 Join date : 2008-04-07 Age : 36
| Subject: Re: General Q and A Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:53 am | |
| - Krisexy26 wrote:
- Alright, let's just clarify something.
A symbol representing negav, for me, will be more like a cross for Christians.
A flag representing negav, for me, will be more like a common flag we have here on earth.
So yeah, I think Negav has a symbol, but not a flag. Umm, often one leads to another. The catholic church has always used flags and banners with the cross on it. A national flag or banner has popped up in just about every major civilization to ever exist. Creating a unifying banner to unite behind is a natural part of a civilization's development. Flags are highly symbolic things, and have a lot of power. | |
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AisuKaiko Keeper of Flat Chests
Posts : 2078 Join date : 2009-12-21 Age : 33 Location : In Ruby's cave in the Imoreith Tundra
| Subject: Re: General Q and A Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:46 pm | |
| Umm... what?
Negav uses lots of things we Earthlings use. Houses, guns, swords, spears, houses, gates, doors, etc. They seem to have the concept of uniforms, if Lesona's hitmen and the Miratans are any indication, and God knows how many Earthen customs, techs, quirks, etc. are present in the countless stories (at least the not-terrible ones) of Felarya. Excluding flags just seems... silly and pointless. | |
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Prof.Nekko Seasoned adventurer
Posts : 156 Join date : 2009-01-30
| Subject: Re: General Q and A Thu Sep 08, 2011 5:26 pm | |
| yes Krisexy what you have to remember is that Felarya was created by someone who I assume is from earth, so a lot of earth-people traits will be existant, a flag is certainly possible... We just don't know what would be on it is all | |
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Shady Knight Lord of the Elements
Posts : 4580 Join date : 2008-01-20 Age : 34
| Subject: Re: General Q and A Thu Sep 08, 2011 5:38 pm | |
| Given that the Magiocrats are currently in charge, and that they somehow have a thing for eyes, it wouldn't be surprising if Negav's current flag involved an eye of some sort. | |
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Karbo Evil admin
Posts : 3812 Join date : 2007-12-08
| Subject: Re: General Q and A Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:56 am | |
| Well it's on my list of things to do and I will design one relatively soon ^^ | |
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luke112 Temple scourge
Posts : 613 Join date : 2011-01-21 Location : Underground bunker taking weapon Inventory
| Subject: Re: General Q and A Fri Sep 09, 2011 3:35 am | |
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Nyaha Eternal Optimist
Posts : 3845 Join date : 2007-12-09 Age : 31 Location : Canada. ^.^ Goooooo Snow!
| Subject: Re: General Q and A Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:38 am | |
| I hope this is on topic. Has anyone created or considered a 'shadow world' existing in a similar plane or something to Felarya, or something along the lines of that? If so, I'd like to discuss with them how the shadow siren species, a creation of mine, might tie into that, please and thank you. | |
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Anime-Junkie Loremaster
Posts : 2690 Join date : 2007-12-16 Age : 31 Location : The Country of Kangaroos and Criminal Scum
| Subject: Re: General Q and A Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:14 pm | |
| Nyaha, there is the 'negative plane' that is mentioned in the Negative Hydra and Nether Wisp articles on the wiki. However there is no other information about it as no development has been done. I believe that only Karbo really knows what it is supposed to be. | |
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Nyaha Eternal Optimist
Posts : 3845 Join date : 2007-12-09 Age : 31 Location : Canada. ^.^ Goooooo Snow!
| Subject: Re: General Q and A Sat Sep 10, 2011 1:06 pm | |
| Negative plane, huh? Okay, I'll check it out. Thank you. *bows appreciatively* | |
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Tango Helpless prey
Posts : 23 Join date : 2011-02-19 Age : 30 Location : 'Merica
| Subject: Re: General Q and A Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:27 pm | |
| How much does a Mercenary generally get paid to go out in the wild like Felarya? | |
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AisuKaiko Keeper of Flat Chests
Posts : 2078 Join date : 2009-12-21 Age : 33 Location : In Ruby's cave in the Imoreith Tundra
| Subject: Re: General Q and A Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:50 pm | |
| That's a bit hard to answer. It'd prolly depend on the mercenary, the employer, the duty, etc... | |
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Tango Helpless prey
Posts : 23 Join date : 2011-02-19 Age : 30 Location : 'Merica
| Subject: Re: General Q and A Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:52 pm | |
| - AisuKaiko wrote:
- That's a bit hard to answer. It'd prolly depend on the mercenary, the employer, the duty, etc...
Yeah >_< I figured I may as well ask, see if anybody knows anything about it. | |
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AisuKaiko Keeper of Flat Chests
Posts : 2078 Join date : 2009-12-21 Age : 33 Location : In Ruby's cave in the Imoreith Tundra
| Subject: Re: General Q and A Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:55 pm | |
| Weeell, maybe someone with more experience in that field could give a more definite answer ^^; | |
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rcs619 Felarya cartographer
Posts : 1589 Join date : 2008-04-07 Age : 36
| Subject: Re: General Q and A Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:43 pm | |
| - Tango wrote:
- How much does a Mercenary generally get paid to go out in the wild like Felarya?
An exact number is hard to guess. It would depend on the employer and the job. The one thing we do know is that any job requiring the mercs to leave the field of the Isolon Eye would cost MUCH more. Most of Negav's mercenaries conduct their business within the field of effect of The Eye. They mainly do security work for local businesses in the low and middle district, and very likely bodyguard work for the city's richer residents up the high district. Mission in the Chomikai Commons are probably very common as well, mainly protecting shipments or important individuals when they travel through The Commons (to and from Negav and the dimensional gate/Motamo Docks), which are somewhat notorious for a variety of bandits that like to try and prey on new people coming to and from the city. Jobs going out beyond the safety of The Eye would be much less common, and a lot more expensive to negotiate.
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Archmage_Bael Mara's snack
Posts : 4158 Join date : 2009-05-05 Age : 35 Location : Shatterock Caldera
| Subject: Re: General Q and A Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:44 pm | |
| We also have to know how much the cost of some basic needs in negav are, that way you could decide a more general number for it. As it stands, the Negav economy is complex. | |
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Anime-Junkie Loremaster
Posts : 2690 Join date : 2007-12-16 Age : 31 Location : The Country of Kangaroos and Criminal Scum
| Subject: Re: General Q and A Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:25 pm | |
| Bael, we already know that. | |
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Tango Helpless prey
Posts : 23 Join date : 2011-02-19 Age : 30 Location : 'Merica
| Subject: Re: General Q and A Mon Sep 12, 2011 2:18 pm | |
| I figured that 1 Skevol is worth about 4 American Dollars. Someone tell me if I'm wrong, that was just a rough estimate based off what I read on the wiki. - Quote :
- An exact number is hard to guess. It would depend on the employer and the job.
The one thing we do know is that any job requiring the mercs to leave the field of the Isolon Eye would cost MUCH more. Most of Negav's mercenaries conduct their business within the field of effect of The Eye. They mainly do security work for local businesses in the low and middle district, and very likely bodyguard work for the city's richer residents up the high district. Mission in the Chomikai Commons are probably very common as well, mainly protecting shipments or important individuals when they travel through The Commons (to and from Negav and the dimensional gate/Motamo Docks), which are somewhat notorious for a variety of bandits that like to try and prey on new people coming to and from the city.
Jobs going out beyond the safety of The Eye would be much less common, and a lot more expensive to negotiate. Yeah I can definatly see them amping up the price for jobs outside the eye. They know what goes on in those jungles lol I read that mercs in real life can make from $90,000 to $250,000 a year, depending on -like you guys mentioned- on the employers, years of experience, job, et cetera. The kind of job I'm thinking of is a contract, not full time like private security soooo... it's gonna take a little more figuring out on my part. I think they would charge more then a merc on Earth would. Felaryan mercs have bigger things to worry about then getting shot at. Literally. - Quote :
- We also have to know how much the cost of some basic needs in negav are, that way you could decide a more general number for it. As it stands, the Negav economy is complex.
And difficult to figure out lol >_< moar math | |
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Stabs Moderator
Posts : 1875 Join date : 2009-10-15 Age : 34 Location : The Coil, Miragia
| Subject: Re: General Q and A Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:21 pm | |
| 'kay, let's see what can ol' Stabby do to help with the numbers. I took an economy class last quatrimester...
-First, any regulated profession has a minimum wage or contract value. It's what keeps them from undercutting each other. Prices, in general, should suffice to replace all work equipment every 5 years at least- less if specially prone to breaking, more if we're working with buildings. Buildings are amortized to 50 years. Other things may not be amortized at all, and might be included in the costs. 60 months... make it 25 skevols per month, you're paying no interests.
-Consider work expenses, too. If it costs twelve... thousand skevols... to fire this gun... for five seconds... we have a problem. Consider the number of seconds you're expecting to fire that thing per day, however, and you might not. Consider you're using up 25 skevols a month worth of bullets, we'll make do.
-Over that value, you should probably consider what sort of livelihood are they being offered, or what sort of material that would afford. For lack of a better alternative, we'll consider the material on the wiki- let's say 9 skevols a day. That's 270 skevols a month worth of rent and food.
-Consider on top of that other expenses. Clothes. I replace my clothes roughly every year- add in the values of the number of sets of clothes the character owns. Let's say this gal (I assume it's a gal) owns 3 suits, about as good as a traveler's outfit. That means 30 skevols a year- 3 skevols a month.
-From there, are they saving money, or are they struggling to keep up?
Combining those values, we'll assume 325 skevols a month are fine for a basic job that allows you to live pretty well- if you're a single person.
Add another 275 skevols if it's supposed to support you and another person, make it 300 if it's supposed to be enough to take care of a kid, double that if the kid's a cripple... but if you've got a crippled kid you wouldn't risk the wild.
Make it 800 skevols a month for dangerous work inside the city, I guess- the extra money beyond 400 skevols should cover the risk surcharge. Does that sound about right? Multiply those values according to what number of months they want you to believe you won't have to work, and then again by the extra risk surcharge. x3 outside the city where you won't be protected by the law, x5 outside the eye, x10 if you might die before you get there... that sound right?
P.S: Does anyone else find it odd that you can buy a whole traveler's outfit, boots and stuff, with the price of two days' worth of high grade meals? Either someone flooded the marked with cheap stout clothes or food's awfully expensive. We really ought to work on those prices... | |
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Solomon Marauder of the deep jungle
Posts : 416 Join date : 2011-03-28 Age : 42
| Subject: Re: General Q and A Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:24 pm | |
| say is it possible for a person to learn how to make salt from earth using magic | |
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