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PostSubject: Digestion   Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:30 pm

Instead of having a gross/painful digestive process, I was thinking that having a unique way of digestion would be better for felarya.

Ingestion:
The esophagus and the rest of the digestive organs should be extremely flexible. Anything that can fit in a mouth can be swallowed

Large Prey:
For creatures that only eat large prey they only have a large stomach and no intestines.
The large stomach is inefficient at small prey and vice versa.

Large and Small Prey:
For creatures that eat both large and small prey, their esophagus diverges into two, with one going to the small stomach and the other going to the large stomach.

Energy:
Atoms in this universe can be broken down into energy easily and also do not yield nearly as much energy(for obvious reasons), and vice versa. Living organisms also are comprised of energy that is not atoms that powers the organisms movements and magic(if applicable).
When used the †energy is dissipated into the environment.
Some energy turns into photons when atoms break down giving a faint glow of light.
This light could be different colors, for hell it could be red/black.
Heaven could be white.
etc

Digestive track:
The digestive tract has fresh air and/or fresh water, from the lungs/gills. The digestive tract is faintly lit from lingering energy. The stomach isnít full of acid, but is instead full of air.

Stomach:
The stomach is specialized for extracting energy from organisms(must be done first), though it can break the organism down into energy albeit rather inefficiently. The organism will feel slight pain and a tingling sensation. As energy is extracted the organism becomes more tired/weak. When most of the energy is absorbed the organism loses consciousness and moves on to the small intestine. How long this takes is dependent on the animal doing the digestion, the animals being digested, how many animals are being digested, how large they are, and many other factors. This process averages an hour to complete.

Small Intestines:
The small intestines function is to break down organisms into energy, it can also extract energy like the stomach but it does it efficiently. The length of this process is variable based on many different factors. It averages 4 hours to complete.

Large Intestines:
The large intestines absorb any remaining water and energy. They canít break down organisms into energy.

Waste:
Indigestible material has to be excreted(Stuff like Armour or tools).

Indigestible Material:
Certain materials are indigestible by different organisms. Inorganic material, though it might have a higher energy yield, has an even higher energy input to break down. Stuff like metal helmets, is generally indigestible. Some animals have a hard time breaking down vegetation while others have a hard time breaking down animals. Some organisms have such a weak digestive tract that they canít break down clothes, while others can break down virtually anything.

Control:

With a lot of practice it is possible to learn to control bodily functions.
The esophagus can be opened(relaxing those muscles) and closed(contracting those muscles).
These muscles can work in unison to assist swallowing or vice versa.
(Dryads canít operate these muscles in unison and therefore canít regurgitate anything.)
One can also learn to turn on/off parts of the digestive system, and control the muscles that control the stomach/intestines.
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PostSubject: Re: Digestion   Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:09 pm

No, I don't think that would be a good idea

There is no reason why this would be a good idea.

What is wrong with the digestion process being disgusting?

I don't think it would do the setting any favours by watering it down as if we were trying to make it child-freindly or something.
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PostSubject: Re: Digestion   Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:37 pm

DarkOne wrote:
No, I don't think that would be a good idea

There is no reason why this would be a good idea.

What is wrong with the digestion process being disgusting?

I don't think it would do the setting any favours by watering it down as if we were trying to make it child-freindly or something.

What is good with having prey quickly suffocate/drown while having their eyes and body burnt alive?
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PostSubject: Re: Digestion   Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:07 pm

there comes a moment in any piece of fiction where certain inherient elements are tonned down so much that the artist might as well decide to simply remove the whole thing altogether because it reached a point where it failed to convey what it was trying to acheive in the first place.



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PostSubject: Re: Digestion   Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:49 pm

DarkOne wrote:
there comes a moment in any piece of fiction where certain inherient elements are tonned down so much that the artist might as well decide to simply remove the whole thing altogether because it reached a point where it failed to convey what it was trying to acheive in the first place.



What do you mean?
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PostSubject: Re: Digestion   Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:07 pm

Well, the whole idea of a "clean"-"energy" digestion can have it's appeals, as I've imagined it a couple of times as well, and I believe some more spetialized creatures could have something like that (probably thinking of angels or some ethereal beings in general), but ... other than that, this proposition doesn't really make much sense elsewhere.

There is no reason for most beings in Felarya to have such a specialised digestion, not only because ... well, the normal one works perfectly fine, but also because the "normal" one has already been settup for years, and lots of people like it that way.

So yeah. The whole idea could be interesting for a more specific setting, or ---maaaaybe---, as a special case here, but not as a generallity.
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PostSubject: Re: Digestion   Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:00 pm

Vaderaz wrote:
Well, the whole idea of a "clean"-"energy" digestion can have it's appeals, as I've imagined it a couple of times as well, and I believe some more spetialized creatures could have something like that (probably thinking of angels or some ethereal beings in general), but ... other than that, this proposition doesn't really make much sense elsewhere.

There is no reason for most beings in Felarya to have such a specialised digestion, not only because ... well, the normal one works perfectly fine, but also because the "normal" one has already been settup for years, and lots of people like it that way.

So yeah. The whole idea could be interesting for a more specific setting, or ---maaaaybe---, as a special case here, but not as a generallity.
People like it that way... Weird.
As far as I am aware the normal way has been avoided for years, with only brief mentions.
Lots of things work completely differently in Felarya, and in my opinion with all the stuff about Felaryan energy digestion would be a nice tie in.
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PostSubject: Re: Digestion   Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:05 pm

Amethyst wrote:
People like it that way... Weird.
As far as I am aware the normal way has been avoided for years, with only brief mentions.
Lots of things work completely differently in Felarya, and in my opinion with all the stuff about Felaryan energy digestion would be a nice tie in.

I mean, it is kind of a vore setting...I'm not very into it myself, but I'd imagine that normal digestion is part of the appeal.

If you personally don't like it, there's nothing stopping you from glossing over it if you're in the point of view of the predator. It's not like they're actively aware of their digestion process.

If you're writing from the point of view of a prey, then...well, there's less options, but you can still fade to black. Or, since it would kind of result in killing off the character and possibly ending the story, you can just write things in a way that they avoid getting eaten at all if that's not the way you want to end things.

Point is, while I don't want to start mindlessly slamming new ideas myself, there are other options if you don't want to describe the vore in detail.
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PostSubject: Re: Digestion   Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:19 pm

Digestion is supposed to be awful. That's one reason why its a deterrent in the first place.
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PostSubject: Re: Digestion   Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:43 am

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Digestion is supposed to be awful. That's one reason why its a deterrent in the first place.
Death is going to be the first thing to come to mind when swallowed. Dying is much more of a deterrent than digestion.
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PostSubject: Re: Digestion   Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:40 pm

Well, in any case, one again;
In this setting, the general rule is that digestion is not meant to be a pleasant/clean experience; people will probably try to avoid it , both because of the obvious outcome, and the gruesome process.
I can possibly accept that there could be exceptions to this rule, with perhaps more "angelic" beings (for exemple) as it could make sense for them, †but otherise, it shouldn't change the general rule. †

I'm not exactly sure what you mean with "the normal way has been avoided for years", as it's clealy not true. There is a difference between not showing it because that's not an aspect you want to show or focus on, and deny it happens completely.
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PostSubject: Re: Digestion   Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:02 pm

Also a mage could potentially cast spells if they have enough concentration, but magical shields and air filtering spells would only help so much I wager, and in the end, I imagine that digestion would still take its toll, and a mage's intent to survive the stomach would only end in a longer, more gruesome, and much more painful experience. Instead of suffocating, they'd probably suffer the whole thing.

@Amethyst Whether or not we're talking about digestion or death is semantics. Digestion is death, and death in a stomach is from digestion.

That's the thing, generally, except with very powerful magic users, or a lot of luck, if you get swallowed, you're gone. its messy. Its horrible. That's the point, its a very sad end, to be sure, but the vast majority of death in felarya will be because someone gets eaten, and when you do, you can't escape. Of course, people are more likely to be eaten by smaller creatures than the giant kind.

Its far more likely you'll be jumped by insects, more human sized predators, or medium sized ones, who cannot swallow you whole and alive, and your end will not be a quick swallow, but a bloody mess. That is because giantesses are actually rather rare in comparison with the rest of the predators. It is something we've talked about on the forum before, its just we depict people being swallowed by giantesses most because that's what a lot of people come to felarya for.
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PostSubject: Re: Digestion   Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:07 pm

Archmage_Bael wrote:
Also a mage could potentially cast spells if they have enough concentration, but magical shields and air filtering spells would only help so much I wager, and in the end, I imagine that digestion would still take its toll, and a mage's intent to survive the stomach would only end in a longer, more gruesome, and much more painful experience. Instead of suffocating, they'd probably suffer the whole thing.

@Amethyst Whether or not we're talking about digestion or death is semantics. Digestion is death, and death in a stomach is from digestion.

That's the thing, generally, except with very powerful magic users, or a lot of luck, if you get swallowed, you're gone. its messy. Its horrible. That's the point, its a very sad end, to be sure, but the vast majority of death in felarya will be because someone gets eaten, and when you do, you can't escape. Of course, people are more likely to be eaten by smaller creatures than the giant kind.

Its far more likely you'll be jumped by insects, more human sized predators, or medium sized ones, who cannot swallow you whole and alive, and your end will not be a quick swallow, but a bloody mess. That is because giantesses are actually rather rare in comparison with the rest of the predators. It is something we've talked about on the forum before, its just we depict people being swallowed by giantesses most because that's what a lot of people come to felarya for.
Yes you digestion entails death, but the scary part about being eaten is death, and not acid. The first thing that would come to your mind is your impending death.

I was under the impression that being swallowed alive was universal in Felarya. Is this not the case?
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PostSubject: Re: Digestion   Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:09 pm

It is not the case. It is what Felarya is most known for, but there are a LOT of creatures and plants out there that eat other things, and not all of them are big enough to swallow you alive.
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PostSubject: Re: Digestion   Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:51 am

Archmage_Bael wrote:
It is not the case. It is what Felarya is most known for, but there are a LOT of creatures and plants out there that eat other things, and not all of them are big enough to swallow you alive.
Right, that's a shame. xD
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