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Anime-Junkie Loremaster
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| Subject: Re: Phantom Elf Blades Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:54 pm | |
| - Sean Okotami wrote:
- Oh yeah, would Phantom Elves modify the handle so it's for one-handed or two-handed grip?
The weapon appears to be designed for a single handed grip. Why would they need it to have a two-handed grip? | |
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Shady Knight Lord of the Elements
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| Subject: Re: Phantom Elf Blades Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:55 am | |
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Anime-Junkie Loremaster
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| Subject: Re: Phantom Elf Blades Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:03 am | |
| - Sean Okotami wrote:
- More solid strikes.
Then they would use a 2 handed weapon. This is designed as a 1 handed weapon. Of course it's possible hold it hand over hand if nessecary, but it's meant to be used in a one handed grip. | |
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Shady Knight Lord of the Elements
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| Subject: Re: Phantom Elf Blades Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:32 am | |
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Anime-Junkie Loremaster
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| Subject: Re: Phantom Elf Blades Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:58 am | |
| - Sean Okotami wrote:
- Bastard sword design.
Yes, I am aware of bastard swords also known as hand-and-a-half swords but we're not talking about those. | |
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Shady Knight Lord of the Elements
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| Subject: Re: Phantom Elf Blades Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:01 am | |
| Just make the handle longer, is that hard to understand? >_> Would they make the handle longer to use it with two hands for more powerful strikes? | |
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Anime-Junkie Loremaster
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| Subject: Re: Phantom Elf Blades Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:33 am | |
| - Sean Okotami wrote:
- Just make the handle longer, is that hard to understand? >_> Would they make the handle longer to use it with two hands for more powerful strikes?
I don't believe so, since it would unbalance the weapon. | |
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Archmage_Bael Mara's snack
Posts : 4158 Join date : 2009-05-05 Age : 35 Location : Shatterock Caldera
| Subject: Re: Phantom Elf Blades Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:58 pm | |
| well I could see a long handle version looking like a chinese glaive. | |
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Shady Knight Lord of the Elements
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| Subject: Re: Phantom Elf Blades Tue Oct 05, 2010 1:00 pm | |
| Glaives are polearms, not swords. | |
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Archmage_Bael Mara's snack
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| Subject: Re: Phantom Elf Blades Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:48 pm | |
| the blade is just about the same size as the handle. I use this as an example of a glaive. The whole background was originally white, same freakin color as the blade, so I photoshopped it a bit, I don't want to do pixel art right now so I left it, mind you magnetic lasso was great, but argh. | |
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Shady Knight Lord of the Elements
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| Subject: Re: Phantom Elf Blades Wed Oct 06, 2010 4:55 am | |
| THESE are glaives. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glaive | |
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gwadahunter2222 Master cartographer
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| Subject: Re: Phantom Elf Blades Wed Oct 06, 2010 3:40 pm | |
| little clarification about the word glaive is used in french to refer to the spatha of the Romans. It can happen the word is used to refer to a sword or another cold weapon too, in fictions and videogames. It's not necessary to argue about what is a glaive. Even if in reality is a polearm but Bael refers more to a sword named glaive. | |
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Shady Knight Lord of the Elements
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| Subject: Re: Phantom Elf Blades Wed Oct 06, 2010 3:48 pm | |
| That would be fine, except for a MAJOR problem: Bael isn't born French, so he'd have to think from the English point of view first that the Glaive is a Polearm, not how a French call a Gladius. | |
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gwadahunter2222 Master cartographer
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| Subject: Re: Phantom Elf Blades Wed Oct 06, 2010 3:56 pm | |
| - Sean Okotami wrote:
- That would be fine, except for a MAJOR problem: Bael isn't born French, so he'd have to think from the English point of view first that the Glaive is a Polearm, not how a French call a Gladius.
If you carefully read the link of wikipedia you have posted will see the word was used in American movie like Krull, Batman, the words was used to refers another weapons than a polearms and in Warcraft (an american games) its refers to two a pair of swords. The words is very common in fantasy fictions to refers another weapon than the the polearm.
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Shady Knight Lord of the Elements
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| Subject: Re: Phantom Elf Blades Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:46 pm | |
| Why are we arguing about this in the first place? | |
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gwadahunter2222 Master cartographer
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| Subject: Re: Phantom Elf Blades Wed Oct 06, 2010 6:31 pm | |
| - Sean Okotami wrote:
- Why are we arguing about this in the first place?
Because nitpicking glaive is a polearm is pointless because it can refer to a sword not necessary the gladius or a fictional weapons, it's not specific to the French even outside the border of French territories it happens in other countries. The proof with the American films and games quoted as example. Bael was just expressing his point of view about the thread and constantly saying a glaive is a polearm as you did is just whining and is pointless in overall. I saw he was talking about the chinese polearm, whose the name is guan dao and are similar with the European glaive, the shape of blade is the same type as some some Chinese sabre named dao which exist in great variety from the one handed, two handed or polearm. Nitpicking about the glaive is a polearm is pointless and not necessary | |
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Shady Knight Lord of the Elements
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| Subject: Re: Phantom Elf Blades Wed Oct 06, 2010 6:47 pm | |
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- http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/GuanYuStatue.jpg
That is a Gun Dao. I am not whining. I simply pointed my view on that weapon only twice not counting this one. You use too many words for too small subjects. Let's get back on tracks. | |
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gwadahunter2222 Master cartographer
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| Subject: Re: Phantom Elf Blades Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:08 pm | |
| - Sean Okotami wrote:
- That is a Gun Dao.
I know this picture, and in the article where you take they speak about the comparison about the European glaive, and there is another variation similar called the pudao - Sean Okotami wrote:
- I simply pointed my view on that weapon only twice not counting this one.
Which was not necessary and pointless. And he was talking to Chinese glaive not European ones. - Sean Okotami wrote:
- You use too many words for too small subjects.
Sorry, I try to make my point clear because I don't have the same ease with English as I have with French. And I think the number of words is quite acceptable next what I did. No reason about complaining about it. - Sean Okotami wrote:
- Let's get back on tracks.
What is the topic now because it seemed to have been resolved, you asking about the shape you has an answer, you asked if it was possible to make a two handed version like the bastard sword. You get an answer but if you want I can answer by saying it's possible but it will require some changes which are not limited to the handle, the blade need some alteration about the shape and the weight to suit better to a two handed grip. Is it possible to create a two handed or a polearm? Yes it's possible but it include some change in the original design to fit better to this new utilisation. | |
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Shady Knight Lord of the Elements
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| Subject: Re: Phantom Elf Blades Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:38 am | |
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gwadahunter2222 Master cartographer
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| Subject: Re: Phantom Elf Blades Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:09 pm | |
| by google the word khopesh I find this picture. The blade has a crescent moon shape and can be hold with the two hand as the handle has enough length to do that. It's a bit different than the one-handed version. The blade match more or less the description except the guy is not a phantom elf. | |
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Archmage_Bael Mara's snack
Posts : 4158 Join date : 2009-05-05 Age : 35 Location : Shatterock Caldera
| Subject: Re: Phantom Elf Blades Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:21 pm | |
| well whatever, I was referring to the curved blade design that I showed in the picture, what it's called isn't the point. | |
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