Description of Great Tree

I'd like to know just how big the Great Tree is, in particular how tall it is, diameter of the main trunk, and how far out the branches extend.(also what kind of tree tree it actually is if that is important)

I think that it is about 1,000 feet tall, trunk diameter of 80-100 feet, with branches extending 500-750 feet out.

Not even close.


Description/Image of the Great Tree



That tree supports its own ecosystem. Your dimensiona are larger than a typical Felaryan tree though, I would imagine. The other trees being something capable of supporting giant dridders and nagas sleeping in them, yet not necessarily individual mountains. But perhaps not.

Yeah, there really are no definative measurements for The Giant Tree. Really, the only way to describe it is...big. Really, really big. So stunningly, mind-boggling big that you just have to stop and go "Holy shit, that is a big tree!"

The claims that entire villages, or even cities could be built upon some of its larger branches are quite literal. Its canopy even supports its own seperate ecosystem, complete with lakes.

If you've read the manga, there is a part where Crisis falls, for quite some distance, along it. She's a good 200ft long. Even her just falling for a few seconds is well over 1000ft. I think the only way to measure the giant tree is in miles, and likely dozens and dozens of those.



I think it would be safe to assume that, barring any other extreme ecological oddities, The Giant Tree of the Tolmeshal Forest is more than likely the single largest and oldest living creature in all of Felarya, if not the entire multiverse.

Something I must get out of the way. I know it's nitpicky, but why does everyone miscall it "Great Tree" when the official name is "Giant Tree." Did they even read the entry?

Does it matter? Either way it describes a truly majestic thing no matter how you call or look at it

rcs619 wrote:

Yeah, there really are no definative measurements for The Giant Tree. Really, the only way to describe it is...big. Really, really big. So stunningly, mind-boggling big that you just have to stop and go "Holy shit, that is a big tree!"

The claims that entire villages, or even cities could be built upon some of its larger branches are quite literal. Its canopy even supports its own seperate ecosystem, complete with lakes.

If you've read the manga, there is a part where Crisis falls, for quite some distance, along it. She's a good 200ft long. Even her just falling for a few seconds is well over 1000ft. I think the only way to measure the giant tree is in miles, and likely dozens and dozens of those.


I think it would be safe to assume that, barring any other extreme ecological oddities, The Giant Tree of the Tolmeshal Forest is more than likely the single largest and oldest living creature in all of Felarya, if not the entire multiverse.

I wonder if you could somehow use the laws of perspective to give a rough estimate of how big it has been drawn in that picture? It's hard to do trigonometry with only one picture and no/few proportions to work with though...

As a matter of fact, Oldman, I think perspective is a lost cause in this picture. Let's try looking for environmental clues, then.

The tops aren't snowed all over, so I think we can safely assume it's... a little help, someone?

Stabs wrote:

The tops aren't snowed all over, so I think we can safely assume it's... a little help, someone?

We can safely assume it is not as tall as frost mountain.

Anyway, i'm of the opinion that the Giant Tree is so big that it doesn't matter.
There are far too many issues with measuring it. Where do you start measuring; The very ground? The base of the roots?

Considering that Crisis is a little over 200ft long...yeah, the giant tree is big. Really, really big. Its unbelievably huge to even giant predators, and has lakes they can swim in if they want. I think its height is somewhere between 50 and 100 miles tall, myself. I don't think being snowed over is an issue, considering Felarya's wierd dimensional nature and the fact that it is in a warmer region than Frost Peak. The Giant Tree is like the predators, it should not exist and should not be able to be that big...but it is.

Spoiler:

But seriously, I never saw a tree in ANY literature that grew so big. It's an impressive feat of nature.

Maybe except Clerya in Final Fantasy IX, but even then, I don't think it comes anywhere near the Giant Tree's girth.

The only thing I can think of that compares to the size of the Giant Tree is this:



This is the mushroom could from the Ivy Mike hydrogen bomb test at around 2-3 minutes after detonation. At this point the cloud is around 33km high (108,000 feet) above sea level. The summit of Everest is 8.848km (29,029ft) in elevation. To be honest I can't really see the Ginat Tree being much larger than this.

EDIT:

After talking with AJ I did a little searching. This image was taken at 70,000ft; I think at that alttitude one would be ejected from Felarya and into space.

well considering from all the posts I read, 1k ft would be way too small. As trees IRL can get up to 450 ft. 33km is too big though XD

um, relatively speaking though the great tree looks to be about 1,000 times bigger than crisis. she's like what...75 ft? x1000 = 75,000 which makes about 14.2 miles high. That's still about 22 km though.

This is weird though, because from the scale it looks like its anywhere from 600-1000 times her height, yet at 22 km its still too high I think. I'd like to say its just about 50k feet, but when anything gets that high, we can just ballpark it at best, considering this is fantasy, and felarya's not an actual planet that would give SOME leway though right? That tree couldn't have grown naturally.

Wait. Felarya. Nevermind.

My whole post has just been invalidated then.

Archmage_Bael wrote:

well considering from all the posts I read, 1k ft would be way too small. As trees IRL can get up to 450 ft. 33km is too big though XD

um, relatively speaking though the great tree looks to be about 1,000 times bigger than crisis. she's like what...75 ft? x1000 = 75,000 which makes about 14.2 miles high. That's still about 22 km though.

This is weird though, because from the scale it looks like its anywhere from 600-1000 times her height, yet at 22 km its still too high I think. I'd like to say its just about 50k feet, but when anything gets that high, we can just ballpark it at best, considering this is fantasy, and felarya's not an actual planet that would give SOME leway though right? That tree couldn't have grown naturally.

Wait. Felarya. Nevermind.

My whole post has just been invalidated then.

Well this question inspired a conversation between AJ, Cliff and myself on the state of Felarya's atmosphere, I wont go into details here but it will alow the tree to be around 50,000ft. And you are very right about the atmosphere being nothing like that of a planet.

And, if all else fails, and I keep coming back to this:

Magic.

I love felarya for magic, but I also don't really like to fall back on it that much.

The tree is probably around 45k -50k ft then, and in addition, since felarya's atmosphere comes from a plain I can kind of see that powerful magic could expand the dimensional barrier in a small area to create smaller pockets that would allow objects that might be able to grow higher, that thought just came to me this second, and Im to tired to think about why it wouldn't exist, I'll leave that to someone else. (In another topic though probably)

Archmage_Bael wrote:

I love felarya for magic, but I also don't really like to fall back on it that much.

The tree is probably around 45k -50k ft then, and in addition, since felarya's atmosphere comes from a plain I can kind of see that powerful magic could expand the dimensional barrier in a small area to create smaller pockets that would allow objects that might be able to grow higher, that thought just came to me this second, and Im to tired to think about why it wouldn't exist, I'll leave that to someone else. (In another topic though probably)

Working on it.

It's probably an insane idea, but with the talk of the dimensional barriers and Felarya not appearing from space, maybe if you managed to reach the absolute top of the Giant Tree, it would be so ridiculously high that you might as well be close to leaving Felarya, the rest of the world appearing hazy and about-to-vanish if you look down

Ok, 10 miles tall. I was curious because I wanted to make a model of it in MineCraft (unless I find some other 3d program).

The skybox is not high enough for you to recreate the Giant Tree in minecraft.

Anime-Junkie wrote:

The skybox is not high enough for you to recreate the Giant Tree in minecraft.

Unlesssssssss you dig down and open up a massive space for it, from ground to top skybox is about 128 i believe. By ground i mean from the indestructible blocks on the bottom

Or assume everything is scaled down a la Spore where a planetary colony takes up an entire continent on Earth?

Anyone ever think that the Great/Giant Tree may in fact have it's own gravity field and atmosphere above Felarya's? Hell, 70,000 feet here, you're on the verge of space walking, but felarya isn't here is it? in fact most of the inhabitants in felarya are huge, so why can't the atmosphere be unreasonably huge as well? that just solves the whole damn problem for the great tree breaking logical earth related barriers.

As a good and... hilariously fucked up... example, has anyone explained why vivian is not 400 feet underground yet? she's the perfect example of being "larger" than others.

So... I say... The tree is damn huge, end of pointless measuring of a self supporting tree from a whole different world.

codaman wrote:

Anyone ever think that the Great/Giant Tree may in fact have it's own gravity field

No, it's not that big.

codaman wrote:

atmosphere

Well, just wait for the hypothesis that Cauldronborn and I came up with.

macdaddy wrote:

Unlesssssssss you...

I ssssssseeeee what you did there.

Stupid creepers, always blowing my cool stuff up!