Yay, An Inu! Say hello to Dalia

Yay, An Inu! Say hello to Dalia!


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Name: Dalia
Species/ Race: Ookami ( Subspecies of Inu)
Sex: Female

Likes: Playing around, being petted, Discovering something new, smells and tastes, growing eatable plants like Mushroms, cooking
Dislikes: chocolate (it's poison to her!), being colorblind, the colour red (since she can't see it), unfriendly people
Favourite Food: Doesn't matter as long as its tasty! (Mostly anything she cooked, except for fish)
Location: Differs, she may be actually anywhere due to her teleportation magic (as shown below), usually near some of her friends in rosic neko village. But most of the time you may find her traveling around, so she is a common sight in places like negav too.

Appearance:
Dalia looks pretty much like a standard Ookami a mixture of a human and a wolf: Human shape with canine ears standing up from her head as well as a bushy tail. She's about 5'8" tall which gives her the common human size and has nicely composed proportions, which also seems pretty standard for felaryan terms. Her hair and fur colour is that of a light brown with white accents at the tip of her tail as well as the tip of her ears. That colour sheme is sort of unlucky because some people tend to mistake Dalia for a kitsune, even though kitsunes do have a slightly more reddish fur than Dalia does. Her tail is about as long as her legs minus her feet, so even if she stretched it straight down, her tail wouldn't reach the ground. Dalias Eyes are reddish-brown, she has a small nose and a nice mouth. She wears a black collar around her neck with a small magical bell attached to it (for further informations look up the magic section of this bio).
Though Dalia likes to cook stuff, she doesn't eat that much, giving her a thin upper body with a decent bust, you'd even say small compared to most felaryan females. She hides the latter with a large pullover though which has a beige colour and serves as her main clothing as well as a hiding place for her dagger and her little bag. The pullover effectively covers her whole upper body up to her neck as well as to her upper arms which lead to her tender hands.
Her hips are covered by a black bikini bottom, due to her tail she doesn't wear any trousers though, the pullover is long enough to cover her hips fine. Dalias legs are athletic, long and muscular, which is no suprise considering that Dalia is a very good runner, so one thing leads to another. Las but not least Dalia wears brown sandals to show off her cute and nicely shaped feet.


Personality:
Dalia is a pretty open minded and friendly person. She's like a humans best friend and tries to be nice to everyone, though her intention often is unanswered and many people find her nature plain annoying, because she's kind of clinging as hell, following or talking to random people, just because they smell nice. Dalia is very curious, she likes to discover new things, even though she keeps forgetting about half the things she just found out, so one may easily call her a little bit absent minded and easily distracted as well.
However, it's something different with people as she never forgets about her friends to the point of being loyal to the end. If she decided that she likes you, you're either one of the luckiest or unluckiest persons in Felarya - depending on your thoughts about having a partner who follows you (all the time), cooks for you (and hinders you from eating anything else than her food), talks to you (a lot, you can't believe how talkative she is), and occasionally marks you with her scent. 'Cause even though Dalia is mostly human in appearance and mental state, she also has lot's of doggish aspects, one being the tendency to leave her scent on places which she thinks, belong to her. The next canine thing would be her tendency to be exeptionally happy and sway her tail in joy, when you give her a treat, pet her, scratch her behind the ears or play with her, but also gets pretty depressed if not aggressivewhen being ignored or treated wrong. She also got a liking to have a good smell from someone around her that she likes and even tends to lick their skin in order to taste them or show her affection, even without it being a sexual one. Unfortunately, as already mentioned many people dislike that behaviour.
Even though Dalia, as an ookami, has a thing for smells and tastes and leaves her personal scent at some places (or persons) by rubbing her tail against something, that doesn't mean she's a dirty person at all. She cares about her own hygiene, since one of her most loved hobbies is cooking for herself and especcially for other people. Finding some new recipes, getting new ingrediences and try to suprise her guests by completely new inventions is one of her biggest goals - and she even suceeds in like... 7 out of 10 tries. The other 3 are either meals with a weird side effect when Dalia tried out a new enchantment or when her inventions are way too... let's say... creative... to taste anything near to eatable. But still, where else would one be able to find magically enhanced food that even tastes great in 7 out of 10 tries?
Even a few, mostly human sized predators tend to see Dalia and buy her food by trading stuff they got from unlucky adventurers or simply in exchange for her own life, if the predator is a not-so-nice one. This way she even befriended a few predators that would normally just eat her, like the Naga Sarah or even Crisis' best friend Anna, so she sometimes gets a little protection from them when she's out in the wildlife.
But Dalia prefers to stay in a village, town or at least in a house where it's safe, because she doesn't like to go out and risk her life, since she has been eaten a few times already and only escaped thanks to Gunthers escaping bell. However, it weren't the most enjoyable experiences and Dalia tries to avoid that. Cooking is fine but becoming the meal herself is definately not!
As already mentioned, Dalia is pretty much emotion-driven and thus can be easily manipulated by her feelings. She does lack self control, which may possibly be an exquisite feature in bed, but proves to be impractical in her daily life. Dalia is a really social Inu and when she's all alone, she seems to wither like a dried out flower until someone treats her nicely.
Nekos do have a special place in Dalias mind, as she treats them like other Inus. She doesn't differ between cat and dog/wolf, unlike many other Inus or Nekos who may even have a grudge against each other about territories and the like. This is a good thing because Dalia travels around a lot (mostly trying to teleport between the cities, using gunthers escaping bell) and one of her goals is the rosic neko village where Dalia has become some sort of common sight, even as an inu and especcially, when she hides her tail. which she usually doesn't, as Dalia is very proud of her appearance. She likes to tease people especcially with her tail (and thus leaving her scent on them) and well built legs, but she's not slutty or anything like that. Because last, but not least it is to say that Dalia has some sort of high sense of moral and considers herself to be a lawful good girl.




Hunting habits:
As one would guess, Dalia is also a carnivore who hunts and eats living things too. Sometimes she may trade food like a good old steak for money or items, another day she has to go outside into the jungle and search for food by herself. All in all Dalia rarely hunts as she eats meat as well as vedgetables, so seeing her out in the wild is a rather unusual event.
When hunting, Dalia tries to be stealthy until she spots an animal of her choice, usually rabbits or other small beings but also Animals up to horse-sized things. After she spottet it, she will try to get as close as possible, which is sorta far away because of her scent. As soon as her prey seems to notice her, Dalia runs straight towards her target, ringing her magical bell until it teleports her right next to her prey. Additional to being super-fast this method of teleportation often suprises her victim, giving Dalia an opening to attack with her Dagger. If that doesn't work she'd fight the animal by using her Dagger, feet and fangs in close combat or using some of her mushrom spores to use different effects on her prey, like stunning or confusing it, she sometimes even turns it into another being accidentally! Its said that "Nathan the strong" once attacked Dalia and by pure luck she threw some spores onto him, turning "Nathan the strong" into "Nathan the mouse"... End of story: Dalia took him home and a few hours later Nathan smoothly slid down her gullet whole and alive, followed by a sip of red wine.
But eating her prey alive is merely an exception, Dalia usually doesn't do that, unless she's really starving or you're a tiny that's either annoying her or literally asking for it and when she does, she doesn't eat that tiny right away but keeps it as a delicasy for a special occasion, like one would enjoy an exceptionally good wine. Though she'd never eat inus or nekos, no matter how small or annoying they are. Otherwise she'd just kill her animal of choice as fast and clean as she can and then takes it home in order to cook a wonderful steak or anything else that's tasty.



Abilities:
Smell and Hearing:
As an Inu Dalia has a very good nose as well as very good ears. Like almost all Inus she can use her nose and ears to the extent of having a complete sheme of the world around her, just by analyzing their smell and sounds. She may smell some food or danger from a few miles away and may act according to it.
All of this goes at the cost of her sight, though. Since an Inus eyes are pretty weak she can't see very good at long distances. Adding to that, she is also colourblind which annoys her to the point of going into some rage mode if you ever mention how pretty the colour red is (since she can't see any red at all) NEVER make a comment like "you have such wonderful red eyes" to her or you get yourself killed! Well... almost... But it'll still hurt!

Endurance:
As an inu Dalia is a very good and long lasting runner, she has an endurance to follor her prey over miles without starting to sweat. It is pretty much needed though since she may not be the fastest or strongest predator around, so mostly Dalia has to rely on her stamina and the work of her magical items in order to catch anything.

Cooking:
Dalia is a very good cook and her meals are preferred by almost anyone who ever ate it. At least, if their food didn't have some weird enchantment on it...

Enchantment Magic:
Dalia is a decent magician and an apprentice of the pretty much unknown, yet awesome Mage called "Sis". Because of this, Dalia knows a few little tricks, mostly involving enchantments of existing items since her magic is still too weak to work on its own. Despite that lack of abilities her rather original use of Enchantments gives her some weird, yet effective methods of surviving in the Felaryan world.


Magical weapons:
Being a grown up person who has to work for her money, it seems only natural that Dalia is capable of enchanting weapons and items for other persons to use. They only have a little amount of magical power compared to the legendary weapons of great mages, but their effects still come in handy and Dalias work is popular enough for her to survive. The most popular items in her stock would be the collar of endurance which allows a person to go to their limits when it comes to straining their own body (doesn't actually increase a persons abilities though, just helps to overcome one's weaker self) or the dagger enchantment simply called "fang" which seems to cut wounds twice as deep as they usually would, effectively giving the dagger the effectiveness of a shortsword. Dalia herself actually does hide one of the "fang" type daggers inside her pullover in order to defend herself if necessary. As you may notice, most manipulations are named after something related to a canine in order to make people remember HER work and thus appreciate Dalia.

Teleportation Bell:
There is a special bell attached to her collar. Originally it has been one of gunthers escaping bells she "got" from a guy called Nathan the strong. You ring it and after a few moments the magic is charged up and teleports you to a place you want. However, it wouldn't have been a "Gunthers" Item if there wasn't any disadvantage to it, since the bell rang out loud and its effect would be set into motion at a random time. Thanks to Dalias Enchantments she got rid of that extremely loud ringing (as an Inu with extremely good ears that sound was almost killing her and it also keeps the predators from hearing that sound over 12 miles) making it a quiet little ringing instead and the teleportation kicks in more often, though it is still random. However, when Dalia is traveling or hunting she has this bell exposed, letting it swing from side to side the whole time as she runs towards her destination or after her prey. Knowing she has lots of stamina, she just has to follow her prey and keep an eye on it, until at a point that bells effect will suddenly kick in and teleport her right next to her prey (if she aimed at it) or some safe place if she needs to escape or simply travels. This method of movement gave her the nickname lightning since it seems like Dalia may actually move as fast as lightning. If she doesn't need the bell, she usually sticks it into her pullover, keeping the bell from swinging enough to prevent unintentional uses and keeping it from making noises.

Mushrom magic:
Dalia loves food and she also loves enchantments... What happens if you put both things together? well, you gotta be be sure it won't do any good! That Inu girl keeps enchanting food from time to time, either to test new effects, to suprise people who eat it or just for the heck of it. If a lucky or unlucky guy eats her "improved" food, the effect will kick in after a few moments or during digestion, depending on the particular enchantment. For unknown reasons Mushroms seem to work best with Dalias magic, even though she may enchant almost any kind of food exept for living beings. Probably it is because mushroms are close to the felaryan soil and thus absorb a great portion of its magic during their growth. However, this affinity to enchantments gave Dalia the idea to call it mushrom magic.
Those Mushroms have an additional suprising effect, since not only the mushroms themselves are enchanted, but also their spores. Dalia always stores some spores in a little bag in order to throw it at an enemy and as soon as they come into contact with them, the effect will do its work like the person would have eaten it.
The mushroms effect may be as intended from Dalia, but for other people it's best described as random, since you never know what she's testing out next. Though she does have some favourites, like the one she used on many unfriendly people before, turning them into mice and there are also poisoned ones for fighting predators in the jungle. Some people tell each other that Dalia even once invented some reviving mushrom which seemed to save you from dying once, if you ate it a few moments ago. But it's unknown if that's really true since Dalia seems to forget about half of her recipes after she used them once, causing her to "discover" the same enchantment several times.

Yay indeed! Inu are always good!
Unfortunately, I'm a bit pressed for time right now, so I was only able to skim the bio. From what I saw, though, it looks pretty good. I'll read it more attentively later and gave a better critique.
Two things really stood out to me, though:
1 - She's colorblind? Where does it say inu are colorblind? I mean, she's you character and you can do whatever you want with her and being part dog the association does kind of make sense, but nothing I've ever read about inu says they're colorblind.
2 - Are you by chance a fan of the anime Spice and Wolf? Because the picture of Dalia looks almost exactly like Holo from S&W.

Amaroq wrote:

Yay, An Inu! Say hello to Dalia!
Favourite Food: Doesn't matter as long as its tasty!

Iunno bout this line. It doesn't really say anything. What does she find tasty? I have nothing to work on except what dogs normally eat, which unfortunately, from my experience, includes catshit.

Hiyah, thanks for the feedback so far ^^

About the colorblind thing: That's my idea. Just because it isn't rcs' Idea it doesn't mean that it might be wrong. After all, rcs's opinion about inus is currently the only one known since its his text that made it into that wikithingy and nothing else. So... effectively... you read it now. within my text. Consider it being official as if it would be in the wiki as well. :-P

The similarity to anime character:
Never saw that anime, but that look is based on horo, (or holo, whatever), that's correct. ^^ I mentioned it in the deviantart description.

The food stuff: Well... she has a human taste... so no catshit for her. :-/ I mean, come on, she's a cook! Who would buy her magically enhanced food if people knew they'd get catshit? seriously! ^^ And what the hell, why's this the only thing you mention about her Bio... Come on, say something nice!

Well, what Aisu means about the food is that it could be a bit more clear. She probably has some dishes that she prefers over others, is all he's saying. I think the character is pretty decent, nothing over-the-top and rather balanced. On a side-note, I prefer to say Horo for Spice and Wolf, because Holo just sounds bleh.

Oh, well about that... Well I wanted to leave that open since I would only be able to mention earthern food... And most felaryan food would be "alienfood" for us I guess. So... I'll leave that open, sorry. ^^ She likes many things! MEat as well as vedgetables and the like, and probably mushrom stew as well... Maybe no fish ^^

It's fine, my naga has been depicted eating Earth fruits like apples and pears o: Depends on what you have in mind exactly.

I like it, its a well written, decent bio. im not sure what else to say :-/

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About the colorblind thing: That's my idea. Just because it isn't rcs' Idea it doesn't mean that it might be wrong. After all, rcs's opinion about inus is currently the only one known since its his text that made it into that wikithingy and nothing else. So... effectively... you read it now. within my text. Consider it being official as if it would be in the wiki as well. :-P

That isn't quite how things work. Inu are my species. You can't just go adding in random traits and saying that all inu have them. If you want to add more to the species, you'd have to go through me, since Im the one who made them in the first place. Its like you couldn't go "Nagas have heat vision now" without asking Karbo first (although, he'd probably let you do that anyways).

But anyway, Inu aren't colorblind. Their vision is similar to human vision. She could have been born colorblind though, maybe inheriting it from her parents. Colorblindness is an inherited genetic trait among humans, so there could be some traits like that among other species too.

The bio isn't necissarily bad, but there are a few things that are a bit, odd, with it.

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Though Dalia likes to cook stuff, she doesn't eat that much, giving her a thin upper body with a decent bust, you'd even say small compared to most felaryan females

Felaryan females don't have larger boobs on average. Not all Felaryans are all "sexy". A wide range of body and facial structures exist there, just like on Earth. Would Felaryans likely be a bit fitter and healthier on average because of their world and lifestyles? Most likely, yes.

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Personality

I dunno, I just think you went a little overboard with the dog traits here, personally. She seems more like a dog that looks like a person, instead of a dog-person. Not all traits transfer well to a human-animal hybrid. That's why Nekos don't act completely like cats, and why I didn't include every single dog trait in the Inu's bio. Could some Inu be more dog-like than others though? Sure I could see that. I just think you need to tone some of the stuff down. Like, the peeing on things part. That just seems a bit excessive.

Personality isn't bad overall, just could use some tweaks, and a little downplaying of some of the more extreme canine traits.

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Even a few predators tend to see Dalia and buy her food with money they got from unlucky adventurers, or simply in exchange for her own life, if the predator is a not-so-nice one. This way she even befriended a few predators that would normally just eat her, like the Naga Sarah or even Crisis' best friend Anna, so she sometimes gets a little protection from them when she's out in the wildlife.

This is something I just don't see working. First of all, predators (Anna being an exception) have no concept of money. Even if they did, handling human-sized money would be impossible for them, since it is pretty much microscopic. The other main issue is, well, how is she feeding them anything? Even a snack for a predator would weigh well over 100 pounds or more. Even if she had a cart with her all the time, it'd be too heavy to pull.

Now, Fairies may actually work. Their size-shifting allows them to eat human-sized food, and they'd actually be able to gather money/trinkets/valuables to pay for it. That's assuming you could even get a fairy to sit still and be patient for long enough to learn about money, which would be a feat in and of itself. lol

I think her best bet against any kind of pred is to hide from them, same as anyone else.

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unlike many other Inus or Nekos who may even have a grudge against each other about territories and the like

Inu and Nekos have no natural grudge against eachother. Cats and Dogs hating eachother is more an urban myth and/or a product of how the indivudal animals were raised. Could an Inu tribe and a Neko tribe potentially not like eachother? Sure, but it isn't going to be because of their species. Its going to be over territory, resources or personal disagreements.

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As one would guess, Dalia is also a carnivore who hunts and eats living things too

Dogs can be fairly omnivorous, moreso than cats which tend to be near-exclusively carnivores. Would Inu have the urge to chase and hunt every now and then, sure. But they're less voracious than Nekos most of the time. Individuals vary of course. Human-sized hybrids have a much easier time finding food than giants, since they can eat a wider variety of stuff. Berries, fruit, insects, small animals and so on. If a Neko or Inu eats a tiny, its because they choose to.

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All of this goes at the cost of her sight, though. Since an Inus eyes are pretty weak she can't see very good at long distances

Inu eyes aren't that weak. Their vision is about on par with a human's. Nekos have better hearing, slightly sharper vision and worse (but still better than human) sense of smell. Inus have worse (but still better than human) hearing, average vision, and an extremely good sense of smell.

Also, be careful in how you use that bell. Teleportation is a potentially abusable power. its gotta have drawbacks, flaws and limitations, or else you basically have someone who is immune to most danger and can just teleport to safety. Even Voidfingers' portals are limited by their relatively short range (at least from what we've seen in the mangas).

Same with the mushroom magic. Its not a bad idea, and could create some interesting uses...but the size-shifting is probably going to be a no-go. Only fairies (and possibly the most powerful human mages, with decades upon decades of intene training...and Angels/Demons because they're OP anyways =P ) Can size-shift. I just don't think an inu-girl enchanting thigns in her spare time is going to be able to mimic that kind of effect.

Overall though, Dalia isn't a bad idea for a character. She just needs some tweaking and tightening up in places. There's some good ideas in here, just gotta reign in some of the ones that are extraneous or just plain don't fit.

Oooohhhh nice, thanks for that long comment. ^.^

edit says: dang... better use another colour....

I'M QUOTING RCS's POST, I JUST ADDED THE ORANGE STUFF

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About the colorblind thing: That's my idea. Just because it isn't rcs' Idea it doesn't mean that it might be wrong. After all, rcs's opinion about inus is currently the only one known since its his text that made it into that wikithingy and nothing else. So... effectively... you read it now. within my text. Consider it being official as if it would be in the wiki as well. :-P

That isn't quite how things work. Inu are my species. You can't just go adding in random traits and saying that all inu have them. If you want to add more to the species, you'd have to go through me, since Im the one who made them in the first place. Its like you couldn't go "Nagas have heat vision now" without asking Karbo first (although, he'd probably let you do that anyways).

Ok, well... Please don't understand me wrong and I don't want to insult or anger you, but... I don't really care. You can't just go and say "what I say is last word" just because karbo likes you more than me and puts your stuff in the wiki that everyone takes for THE bible while he ignored my suggestions. I've read the article and as you can see, I liked most of it and built it in. Take that as a appreciation of your work. But I don't like how you come here and say "Inu is mine, if you want anything, you come to me!". The view on Inus on the wiki is yours and I respect that, but your view on Inus is not the only one. It's not like you developed that species... Just converted them into felarya. The same goes for nagas, nekos and many more things... :/ So I don't have to ask for your permission about every detail like being colourblind. I never said it would be necessary for ALL inus. How about we take a seat and develope different sub-species... Like Dog-Inus and wolf-Inus and so on.


But anyway, Inu aren't colorblind. Their vision is similar to human vision.
She could have been born colorblind though, maybe inheriting it from her parents. Colorblindness is an inherited genetic trait among humans, so there could be some traits like that among other species too.
To me, being colourblind is just fine since dogs are colourblind as well. Also, you added that chocolate stuff so you're the same as me, technically.

The bio isn't necissarily bad, but there are a few things that are a bit, odd, with it.
"not necessarily bad" how am I supposed to take that? O.o That sounds more negative than positive.

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Though Dalia likes to cook stuff, she doesn't eat that much, giving her a thin upper body with a decent bust, you'd even say small compared to most felaryan females

Felaryan females don't have larger boobs on average. Not all Felaryans are all "sexy". A wide range of body and facial structures exist there, just like on Earth. Would Felaryans likely be a bit fitter and healthier on average because of their world and lifestyles? Most likely, yes.

Ah, well... I'm one of those who know Felarya by about 90% from pictures and art... So I compare my work to the standards I'm used too - which is usually a girl in top shape with unusual big breasts that are exposed to the viewer all the time. Take that as some sort of subtle critique on the world of felarya. ^^

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Personality

I dunno, I just think you went a little overboard with the dog traits here, personally. She seems more like a dog that looks like a person, instead of a dog-person. Not all traits transfer well to a human-animal hybrid. That's why Nekos don't act completely like cats, and why I didn't include every single dog trait in the Inu's bio. Could some Inu be more dog-like than others though? Sure I could see that. I just think you need to tone some of the stuff down. Like, the peeing on things part. That just seems a bit excessive.

But that's what I wanted... She's supposed to be pretty doggish... I admid that would be some sort of extreme here, but it was intended. Well yes the peeing was the furthest I wanted to go I like it, gives her something naughty :3 Of course not all inu are this extreme

Personality isn't bad overall, just could use some tweaks, and a little downplaying of some of the more extreme canine traits.
Which changes would you suggest, aside from the peeing stuff?

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Even a few predators tend to see Dalia and buy her food with money they got from unlucky adventurers, or simply in exchange for her own life, if the predator is a not-so-nice one. This way she even befriended a few predators that would normally just eat her, like the Naga Sarah or even Crisis' best friend Anna, so she sometimes gets a little protection from them when she's out in the wildlife.

This is something I just don't see working. First of all, predators (Anna being an exception) have no concept of money. Even if they did, handling human-sized money would be impossible for them, since it is pretty much microscopic. The other main issue is, well, how is she feeding them anything? Even a snack for a predator would weigh well over 100 pounds or more. Even if she had a cart with her all the time, it'd be too heavy to pull.

I was mainly thinking about human sized predators like nagas who would still hunt an Inu or fairies which you mention now...
. You're correct about the giants, I gotta fix that ^^

Now, Fairies may actually work. Their size-shifting allows them to eat human-sized food, and they'd actually be able to gather money/trinkets/valuables to pay for it. That's assuming you could even get a fairy to sit still and be patient for long enough to learn about money, which would be a feat in and of itself. lol

I think her best bet against any kind of pred is to hide from them, same as anyone else.

How should an inu hide from them? Dalia has a unique odor, just like most dogs...

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unlike many other Inus or Nekos who may even have a grudge against each other about territories and the like

Inu and Nekos have no natural grudge against eachother. Cats and Dogs hating eachother is more an urban myth and/or a product of how the indivudal animals were raised. Could an Inu tribe and a Neko tribe potentially not like eachother? Sure, but it isn't going to be because of their species. Its going to be over territory, resources or personal disagreements.

I said that it's about territory and MANY others, not most or all of them O.o Don't see your critique here, you probably misunderstood me, cause I actually share your opinion in that point. ^^

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As one would guess, Dalia is also a carnivore who hunts and eats living things too

Dogs can be fairly omnivorous, moreso than cats which tend to be near-exclusively carnivores. Would Inu have the urge to chase and hunt every now and then, sure. But they're less voracious than Nekos most of the time. Individuals vary of course. Human-sized hybrids have a much easier time finding food than giants, since they can eat a wider variety of stuff. Berries, fruit, insects, small animals and so on. If a Neko or Inu eats a tiny, its because they choose to.

uhm... is there any problem with what I wrote? Dalia eats meat as well as fruits and cooks them. Her eating a tiny human is descripted as a mere exception.

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All of this goes at the cost of her sight, though. Since an Inus eyes are pretty weak she can't see very good at long distances

Inu eyes aren't that weak. Their vision is about on par with a human's. Nekos have better hearing, slightly sharper vision and worse (but still better than human) sense of smell. Inus have worse (but still better than human) hearing, average vision, and an extremely good sense of smell.

Again, this is a dog trait. I gave her those bad eyes in order to represent that and give her some weak point as well.


Also, be careful in how you use that bell. Teleportation is a potentially abusable power. its gotta have drawbacks, flaws and limitations, or else you basically have someone who is immune to most danger and can just teleport to safety. Even Voidfingers' portals are limited by their relatively short range (at least from what we've seen in the mangas).

Well, it's drawback is that you don't know when the effect kicks in (Gunther for the win!). It could save you within seconds or you ring it for half an hour and go crazy from the sound with no teleportation activated. That's why she keeps the bell around her neck, so she's ringing it all the time. Even though she decreased the noise of the bell, it still makes sounds, so people will know where she is and most likely where she is being teleported to. Also, different from the portals in the manga, it's only her that's being teleported. So you couldn't transport more people with it. I think it's a strong feat, but not OP. It's her main reason why she's still alive though, because as a sorta smelly human sized predator, who is neither strong nor fast, she wouldn't survive long in the forest. I see your worries, but I think its fine as long as I don't abuse it intentionally. Maybe one could limit the time frame between several uses... but then again... that's random.


Same with the mushroom magic. Its not a bad idea, and could create some interesting uses...but the size-shifting is probably going to be a no-go. Only fairies (and possibly the most powerful human mages, with decades upon decades of intene training...and Angels/Demons because they're OP anyways =P ) Can size-shift. I just don't think an inu-girl enchanting thigns in her spare time is going to be able to mimic that kind of effect.

Actually the three examples were hints at the super mario mushroms. ^^ I intended to do the size shifting via turning one being into another, as I stated with nathan the strong who became dalias dinner. So a human would temporarily turn into a giant, but only as long as his new hull isn't damaged or the like... Didn't intend to give her long lasting size change like angels and fairies have. ^^ Maybe I should remove it anyway? That growing stuff is nothing she HAS to have.Though I'd like to keep the "change one thing into another" one... to turn more people into mice and the like



Overall though, Dalia isn't a bad idea for a character. She just needs some tweaking and tightening up in places. There's some good ideas in here, just gotta reign in some of the ones that are extraneous or just plain don't fit.

I'd like to chat with you about that. On eyes-to-eyes level though, not on the "you're the master and I request stuff", but I guess you didn't mean it that way. ^.^

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Ok, well... Please don't understand me wrong and I don't want to insult or anger you, but... I don't really care. You can't just go and say "what I say is last word" just because karbo likes you more than me and puts your stuff in the wiki

lol, Karbo doesn't like me anymore, not since that drama. It wasn't about liking me when the Inus went in, it was about the idea being good, and popular with the people on the forum.

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But I don't like how you come here and say "Inu is mine, if you want anything, you come to me!". The view on Inus on the wiki is yours and I respect that, but your view on Inus is not the only one.

But the Inu are mine. At least the ones in Felarya. My view is the official view. If you want your "own" Inu, you could make them offworlders. Call them "so and so Inu" or something.

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It's not like you developed that species... Just converted them into felarya.

Im not familiar in any other media. Im sure they exist, but I've sure never seen them. I made Felaryan Inu, I didn't just go "derp, let's take these and stick them in Felarya", I went "Hey, we hae cat-people but no dog-people, how can I make them unique enough fit in?"

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To me, being colourblind is just fine since dogs are colourblind as well. Also, you added that chocolate stuff so you're the same as me, technically

Dogs being colorblind is an urban myth. They can't see the color red as well as a human, but they are far from colorblind. The chocolate thing though, that IS actual real. Their biology doesn't allow them to process it, making even small doses of chocolate potentially lethal.

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But that's what I wanted... She's supposed to be pretty doggish... I admid that would be some sort of extreme here, but it was intended. Well yes the peeing was the furthest I wanted to go I like it, gives her something naughty :3 Of course not all inu are this extreme

There's nothing "naughty" about it, its just a gross, and unnecissary trait.

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Which changes would you suggest, aside from the peeing stuff?

Have her behave like a sentient being with animalistic traits, instead of an animal trapped in a human's body? Nekos don't go around peeing on everything or sticking their butts in eachother's faces like real cats.

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How should an inu hide from them? Dalia has a unique odor, just like most dogs...

Find a good spot and keep still? Keep in a small place a pred couldn't reach? Preds don't have radar. Even wtih a heightened sense of smell and (in Nagas' and Fairies' cases) that magical field sense, they can't just go "Oh, you're right there". If you are well-hidden, and keep still, they can pass you by. She'd even have the added advantage of enhanced hearing and smell to sense them coming better than a human.

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I said that it's about territory and MANY others, not most or all of them O.o Don't see your critique here, you probably misunderstood me, cause I actually share your opinion in that point. ^^

You'd be suprised how often the whole "Inus and Nekos automatically hate eachother because they are dogs and cats" comes up. I thought what you were saying was another one of those arguments.

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It's her main reason why she's still alive though, because as a sorta smelly human sized predator, who is neither strong nor fast, she wouldn't survive long in the forest

Umm, Inu are just as capable as surviving in the wild as Nekos. Being part-cat doesn't seem to hinder them from having hidden villages and keeping alive out there (well, the smart ones anyways).

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I'd like to chat with you about that. On eyes-to-eyes level though, not on the "you're the master and I request stuff", but I guess you didn't mean it that way. ^.^

Its my idea though. I get some say over how people use them, and what traits they have. If you want your "own" Inu that I have no say over, make them offworlders or something.

So you have no intention in cooperating and working with me on the inus or my inu then.

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lol, Karbo doesn't like me anymore, not since that drama. It wasn't about liking me when the Inus went in, it was about the idea being good, and popular with the people on the forum.

Meh, to me it doesn't seem like that because the same names keep popping up over and over again. And now don't go and say "well then all your ideas were crap then".

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But the Inu are mine. At least the ones in Felarya. My view is the official view. If you want your "own" Inu, you could make them offworlders. Call them "so and so Inu" or something.

I disagree with you here. Already made my stance clear so I'm not going to repeat myself here. If you need it on paper: By submitting your ideas to the wiki, you gave up ALL your belongings in that matter anyway, so... there you have it.

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Im not familiar in any other media. Im sure they exist, but I've sure never seen them. I made Felaryan Inu, I didn't just go "derp, let's take these and stick them in Felarya", I went "Hey, we hae cat-people but no dog-people, how can I make them unique enough fit in?"

I didn't say that you did it intentionally. However, Inus are nothing new so my point remains untouched.

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Dogs being colorblind is an urban myth. They can't see the color red as well as a human, but they are far from colorblind. The chocolate thing though, that IS actual real. Their biology doesn't allow them to process it, making even small doses of chocolate potentially lethal.

You're wrong here, they ARE colourblind. I'm going to university and we had that particular topic a whole reading time.

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There's nothing "naughty" about it, its just a gross, and unnecissary trait.

So and I have to remove it because YOU don't like it? Hrmmm let me think about it.... no. I thought it was clear that she doesn't pee on people and the like... But against trees and stuff.

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Have her behave like a sentient being with animalistic traits, instead of an animal trapped in a human's body? Nekos don't go around peeing on everything or sticking their butts in eachother's faces like real cats.

GOSH can you stop ranting about the peeing part for ONCE? It is mentioned only one time and you keep referring to it all the time! And I never said ANYTHING about the latter, so this is just trolling -.-

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Find a good spot and keep still? Keep in a small place a pred couldn't reach? Preds don't have radar. Even wtih a heightened sense of smell and (in Nagas' and Fairies' cases) that magical field sense, they can't just go "Oh, you're right there". If you are well-hidden, and keep still, they can pass you by.

wrong, because most felaryan predators are just able to do anything to reach you... and Preds like crisis do excactly that: Say "Ohhh there you are!"






Sorry, I was trying to be friendly but you just come here, say "inus are mine, obey me" and then rip apart my Bio about things you don't like. I was waiting for you in the chat but you didn't bother to come. Well, that's that. :-/

Dogs are dichromatic (they can only perceive two primary colors) and have seven times less color sensing cells (cone cells) in their eyes than humans but they are NOT colorblind, actually cats are only slightly better, VERY few creatures can see as broad a spectrum of colors as humans.
Doesn't mean Dalia can't be colorblind though.
And calm down Amaroq, RCS was being pretty polite, he even gave you ways to tweak your character to make it fit better into established canon, or even have it exactly how you want without breaking canon, I don't see why you're getting so upset, maybe you misunderstood the tone of his message?
Honestly this character is quite good and only needs slight tweaking to be great, but you have to be ready to accept those (small) tweaks, try not be personally insulted when people perceive a problem with your characters.
Now please everyone stay civil... We don't want a repeat of what happened last time.

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So you have no intention in cooperating and working with me on the inus or my inu then.

Felaryan Inu are my idea. Its you who need to cooperate with me, not the other way around. Like I said, if you want your own Inu where only you have a say on them, make them offworlders or something.

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the same names keep popping up over and over again

Because a much smaller group actually helps DEVELOP the setting, than just uses it for stories and art. Hundreds of people on DA have written Felarya stories, or drawn Felarya fan-art. Only, like, 50 people have actually contributed ideas or hung out regularly to discuss ways to improve/develop the setting.

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And now don't go and say "well then all your ideas were crap then".

This is the kind of thing that makes you hard to have a discussion with. No matter what I say, you're going to assume the worst and put words into my mouth that I neither said, nor implied.

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If you need it on paper: By submitting your ideas to the wiki, you gave up ALL your belongings in that matter anyway, so... there you have it.

Characters and species still belong to the owner unless they release them completely though, since people often NEED the creators' input to potray them properly. That's why I can use nagas at will, but I have to ask permission if I want to use Dusk Nymphs. Those still belong to Terra. Same with how Frost Sprites and Inu belong to me.

Also: They are also expected to contact you about your idea and ask for permission, and if their implementation of your idea is not to your liking, you can tell them how they can change it. You cannot, however, refuse them the right to use it. - The Disclaimer

I have all the right in the world to voice concerns about how an idea I created is being used.

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So and I have to remove it because YOU don't like it? Hrmmm let me think about it.... no. I thought it was clear that she doesn't pee on people and the like... But against trees and stuff.

To be fair, you're the one that decided to use a species that someone else had created and defined. I can't go around saying that Joutun have heat-vision and can reproduce through lesbian sex orgies. Because Joutun have already been created and established as a species by Jeatte Troll (although, in fairness, Fenja with heat-vision would be fucking amazing XD)

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this is just trolling -.-

Someone reads through your whole bio, goes through and makes clear, civil posts to try and have a discussion about them. ...and that's trolling? I was under the impression that we were talking to eachother with mutual respect and civility here, but i can see that is a lost cause. I disagree with you, civiliy, and try to raise my issues, and Im a troll.

Trolling has a definition you know? It isn't just a word to throw around, and it doesn't mean "One who disagrees with me in a civil manner"

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wrong, because most felaryan predators are just able to do anything to reach you... and Preds like crisis do excactly that: Say "Ohhh there you are!"

Because most Felarya preds pop up in vore stories or vore-related art. Of course the author isn't going to go "The giant sexy naga knew humans were around, but couldn't find them. The End". If they did that, they wouldn't have a story. Besides, nearly ALL of the people that Crisis happens upon are idiots who are right out in the open. She's never encountered anyone making any kind of serious attempt to hide from her. Same with most predators in most stories.

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I was waiting for you in the chat but you didn't bother to come. Well, that's that. :-/

...Its Saturday and my day off. I have better things to do than sit in a chat, debating whether or not Im right about dog-people (that I created) in a magical fantasy world.

Like I said, if you want your own Inu, make them offworlders. Felaryan Inus are currently already defined within the setting.

I mentioned the few grammar spots where I suggested better words to make it a little more understandable in English terms, but other than that, I don't see anything wrong with this. I think it's a neat idea for her to be colourblind. After all, the reason for that doesn't necessarily HAVE to be due to the fact that she's an inu, but rather an unrelated fact about her. There's also the fact that some inus could just be more doglike than other inus; if all dog-people were the same, it wouldn't be any fun.

I took some of the critique that sounded fair to me and changed her bio slightly. Also, to set things aside peacefully, Dalia is now an ookami, a subspecies of inus, so I can do my own thing without RCS's opinion about whether it's allowed for her to be colourblind or pee on things or whatever. I respect his opinion as his... well, opinion, but not as an order. So I guess this will be the best solution.

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I think it's a neat idea for her to be colourblind. After all, the reason for that doesn't necessarily HAVE to be due to the fact that she's an inu, but rather an unrelated fact about her. There's also the fact that some inus could just be more doglike than other inus; if all dog-people were the same, it wouldn't be any fun.

I'd have to agree with Nyaha here, I mean some neko are more cat like then other neko so why can't it be the same with inu?

So in other words I think its a fact some inu are more dog while others aren't just like neko.

But hey I'm not a pro at this stuff I'm just giving my point of view on this matter is all...

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Also, to set things aside peacefully, Dalia is now an ookami, a subspecies of inus, so I can do my own thing without RCS's opinion about whether it's allowed for her to be colourblind or pee on things or whatever.

Hahaha! XD Okay, I just laughed when I read this. What a clever way to step out of any kind of trouble concerning inus

I admire you for this.

And to be honest with you, your bios are among the best here in the forum.

Having re-read the bio and all the other comments on it, everyone else has already said just about all I had to say: Some questionable bits here and there, but overall very solid.

However, despite the earlier troubles here, I like the direction this character has taken. Our first pronounced inu sub-species! With that, the race and setting have become that much more developed, that much richer. Now that the disparagements are over, things have turned out even better than before. Always nice to see this happen.

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Amaroq wrote:

Also, to set things aside peacefully, Dalia is now an ookami, a subspecies of inus, so I can do my own thing without RCS's opinion about whether it's allowed for her to be colourblind or pee on things or whatever.

Hahaha! XD Okay, I just laughed when I read this. What a clever way to step out of any kind of trouble concerning inus

I admire you for this.

And to be honest with you, your bios are among the best here in the forum.

Yes, because using a lawyer-esque loophole to try and side-step someone's right to speak up and defend their original idea is something that should be applauded.

That's fine though. I've seen his chatbox logs, and the things he's said about me. Im fairly content to hold the moral highground on this one. Excuse me for trying to utilize the rights given to me by the disclaimer to speak up for one of MY ideas. I thought this was a community where people respected the ideas other people created. Guess I was wrong.

Don't want to follow the rules in the wiki? Make an almost identical idea, call it something else, and do whatever the hell you want no matter what the original idea's creator says. Truly a tactic we want to fully support from now on.

rcs619 wrote:

Krisexy26 wrote:

Amaroq wrote:

Also, to set things aside peacefully, Dalia is now an ookami, a subspecies of inus, so I can do my own thing without RCS's opinion about whether it's allowed for her to be colourblind or pee on things or whatever.

Hahaha! XD Okay, I just laughed when I read this. What a clever way to step out of any kind of trouble concerning inus

I admire you for this.

And to be honest with you, your bios are among the best here in the forum.

Yes, because using a lawyer-esque loophole to try and side-step someone's right to speak up and defend their original idea is something that should be applauded.

That's fine though. I've seen his chatbox logs, and the things he's said about me. Im fairly content to hold the moral highground on this one. Excuse me for trying to utilize the rights given to me by the disclaimer to speak up for one of MY ideas. I thought this was a community where people respected the ideas other people created. Guess I was wrong.

Don't want to follow the rules in the wiki? Make an almost identical idea, call it something else, and do whatever the hell you want no matter what the original idea's creator says. Truly a tactic we want to fully support from now on.

I've been going over the stuff that has been said and done yesterday and I wanted to apologize for that since I did you unjustice in some of the aspects, because I misread some of your stuff. Because to me "not necessarily bad" meant "average and worse, not as bad as "bad" though" and I felt uncomfortable with you ranting about her personality. While some points of view have changed after a sleepover, others have not and I'll keep her bio as it is for most of the part, maybe revove that pee-stuff because it isn't that important and everyone's freaking out over it.
However, I didn't break ANY rule that is clearly stated in that stupid wiki, the only thing I did was ADDING stuff and my additions are the stuff you call "mistakes" or "flaws" or whatever and that is just not right. First, Inu aren't your property and second, this is my character so I get to decide how her personality is meant to be built. Not you. If you don't like my character, so be it, but don't come here and tell me how to create a character because that is just as disrespectful as I am. I've been friendly in my first reply, said "hey, its ok, lets discuss about that". Well then YOU were the one who spoke from high up on his horse, telling me that you don't even bother to talk to me since you're the king already. Now you're telling me you've read the chat anyway? Sorry but that is just dumb. If you have the time to read that whole chat, you could easily just have come to the chat when I offered it to you. For real. Whatever, no need to talk to you anymore since I already know the outcome.

Making her a subspecies is a decision I made in order to prevent further arguments. To me it looks like you dislike me going into a different direction just because you can't tell me what to do now and thus you attack my Idea to just give her a subspecies. The majority seems to like the idea, so I'll stick with that.

Small point of order: The disclaimer says:

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They are also expected to contact you about your idea and ask for permission, and if their implementation of your idea is not to your liking, you can tell them how they can change it. You cannot, however, refuse them the right to use it.

Technically, inus no longer "belong" to rcs, but he has every right to point out a use of the species which does not correspond to what he intended for it. Amaroq, it's clear from precedent, and from the disclaimer, that you can do as you please in your own writings, as your changes to the species are of course non-canon. (For reasons of courtesy, if nothing else, I don't think the canon regarding inus would be altered without rcs' consent.) But rcs' pointing to his established canon for the species was quite legitimate.

If this thread is going to be civil, it can now continue along its merry way.

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I felt uncomfortable with you ranting about her personality

First of all, I was not ranting. I was posting in a calm, civil manner. If I was ranting, you would know. Ask Karbo, or AJ, Zion or Darkstorm. They've actually seen me mad, and know what my ranting is like.

Honestly, this kind of thing is the worst thing you do. Someone posts, and then you talk about how they ranted, and how they "basically said my idea was shit and I should drop it" and so on. You have a nasty habit of putting words into people's mouths, and of accusing them of emotions they never showed. I've never said a bad thing about you (well, i think I've called you whiny and frustrating once or twice), but you feel the need to go into the chatbox and rant and rave about me for an hour? Calling me all kinds of names and making all kinds of accusations about me? No, that ain't cool. Not at all.

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First, Inu aren't your property

Felaryan Inu ARE my idea. I created them, and according to the disclaimer I have all the right in the world to speak up if I think someone is using them wrong and/or misrepresenting them. I can't stop anyone from using them, but I can voice my concerns all I want.

The sole cause of the other night's drama was YOUR reaction to it. You took it as a personal attack. You ranted and raved about how I called your idea "shit" and how I "think I am so much better at you because I have ideas in the wiki". You even accused me of "trolling" in the thread, when all I'd done was write in-depth responses to voice my concerns. It was disrespectful and completely ridiculous.

If you don't want an idea's creator to be able to critique you on how you use HIS/HER idea, then either follow the rules they set down, make your own idea, or have a civil discussion without accusing them of trying to oppress you and treat you like shit for the fun of it.

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and second, this is my character so I get to decide how her personality is meant to be built

Yes, but you were describing her traits in a broad language that implied that all Inu were like her. That was my issue.

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Well then YOU were the one who spoke from high up on his horse, telling me that you don't even bother to talk to me since you're the king already

Please show me where I claimed to be royalty. Because this seems like an example of what I was talking about earlier. The whole putting words in people's mouths, thing.

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Now you're telling me you've read the chat anyway? Sorry but that is just dumb. If you have the time to read that whole chat, you could easily just have come to the chat when I offered it to you

...I was watching football. College football season started the other day. I didn't read the chat-logs until AFTER it had all already gone down. Only reason I gave them a look is because some of the people that were there felt I should know some of the things you were saying about me.

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Making her a subspecies is a decision I made in order to prevent further arguments. To me it looks like you dislike me going into a different direction just because you can't tell me what to do now and thus you attack my Idea to just give her a subspecies. The majority seems to like the idea, so I'll stick with that.

No, I just think its a bit underhanded and sneaky. You could have easily made her an offworlder, but you'd already said that you wouldn't do that "for the principle of it".

Its the same crap Shouda pulled on Karbo. Shouda's comics completely disrespected Karbo's setting and his characters, but when karbo tried to correct him, and eventually told him to stop, shouda simple responded "My work is a fan-comic. Its not canon, so I have no obligation to listen to you"

Granted, what you did is not quite THAT disrespectful, but its certainly in the same vein.

to RCS: Yeah, As I said, I apologize for the bad things I said to/about you since I did you unjustice in some ways. You probably have known it before, I get easily provoked by stuff that's being said, because I take on things too personal easily. However, that's not the only reason, most people know how I think about this whole canon stuff, especcially with the wiki, but i won't go into detail about that here since its not part of my topic.

About that trolling stuff: I didn't mean that you were trolling the whole time, I actually thanked you for the long response in the beginning. What I called trolling was the whole argumentation about her personal traits that seemed like you listed them as "mistakes". I never said that all of her personality were to apply to EVERY Inu, as I often used the words most or some and so on.


About this whole Idea / property stuff. As I said, I respect your text in the wiki, I tried to be close to it (because I liked most of it) and actually none of my characters traits are against anything that IS written in the wiki, however I do have the opinion, that that description is still only one viewpoint and it is possible to add or slightly change certain things in order to make a character. Especcially when it comes to "rules" that are not written. A user in the chat made an example with a neera having a new ability which seemed ridiculous and thus would be against the canon even if it didn't stand there. I disagree with that. As long as the wiki doesn't state otherwise, I see no reason why someone should be able to forbide such things. Especcially when the creator of the character has his/her reasons for using that particular ability, trait or whatever.

Because I put a lot of effort into my characters and you can believe me when I say I think about what I'm going to write in the bio and what not and then my pride and joy about this character gets hurt when someone comes and tells me that I would do it wrong when I'm not. (When I read your description of my picture of dalia in the other thread I was really pissed and disliked my own picture for a whole while)
Some people here mentioned some flaws, but actually didn't say what was wrong, so my only assumption was that they were talking about her really doggish personality. Which simply is not wrong. Weird, maybe, maybe even naughty or disgusting or whatever to some people, but it's definately allowed.

This leads me to the royalty thing. I'll give you the part that I mentioned:

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...Its Saturday and my day off. I have better things to do than sit in a chat, debating whether or not Im right about dog-people (that I created) in a magical fantasy world.

That sounded like from high up the horse. And it sorta still does. It's that same condescending tone that you used to describe my Inu picture in the Wiki-changes-topic. It MAY be meant neutral, but it gets read as condescending.

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No, I just think its a bit underhanded and sneaky. You could have easily made her an offworlder, but you'd already said that you wouldn't do that "for the principle of it".

Making her an offworlder would mean that I had her come to felarya first. And I didn't want that, I want my character to be a native born in felarya character. So that offworlder thingy was out of the question for me. I admit that I could have told that before. However, I don't see any reason why my character wouldn't fit into the inu category at all, since there is nothing obviously against the "canon" text that you always refer to.
That principle stuff is also a point, yes. I don't like to change things because other people tell me to - at least when I'm not given a reason I feel ok with. As you could see, I did make a few changes based on the critique I got (also some of your critique, because I did listen to you, believe it or not), those were things where I told myself: ok, they might be right here. However, other things were not ok with me. There were lots of other things coming together though, INCLUDING experiences from my previous Bios where we already had our arguments before and some stuff that really bugs me with the felaryan community forum anyway. Long story told short, my anger wasn't meant to be against you alone.


all in all I hope that you see my latest responses as an attempt to deescalate things so we might come to a truce.

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That sounded like from high up the horse. And it sorta still does. It's that same condescending tone that you used to describe my Inu picture in the Wiki-changes-topic. It MAY be meant neutral, but it gets read as condescending.

It isn't about being condescending, its about priorities. Watching football with Dad is a little more important than spending an hour in a chat talking about fantasy dog-people. Im fairly glad that I didn't pop into the chat now, since it didn't seem like you were in a very good mood for a discussion anyways.