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PostSubject: Re: Dragons   Dragons - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Dec 01, 2008 3:44 pm

What? You're going to throw away your idea just like that? Just because a couple folks dislike it?
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PostSubject: Re: Dragons   Dragons - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Dec 01, 2008 3:57 pm

I'm going to keep it in reserve until an appropiate time.
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PostSubject: Re: Dragons   Dragons - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Dec 01, 2008 4:07 pm

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What? You're going to throw away your idea just like that? Just because a couple folks dislike it?

That seems to be how it works. Unless popular demand says otherwise. Any being with a mainly dragon race that can talk must be voiced by James Earl Jones or Sean Connery.
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PostSubject: Re: Dragons   Dragons - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Dec 01, 2008 4:24 pm

What's wrong with Patrick Stewart?
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PostSubject: Re: Dragons   Dragons - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Dec 01, 2008 4:32 pm

not enough base in his voice. However Don LaFontaine (the movie preview voice guy) will work.
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PostSubject: Re: Dragons   Dragons - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Dec 01, 2008 4:55 pm

Well it's a mute point anyway.

The only "dragon" that seems to fit Felarya would be Megalania.
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PostSubject: Re: Dragons   Dragons - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Dec 01, 2008 5:14 pm

That or Depends on how creative people get.
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PostSubject: Re: Dragons   Dragons - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Dec 01, 2008 8:23 pm

They'd have to be pretty creative-or risk the wrath of GREGOLE!

'nuff zed!
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PostSubject: Re: Dragons   Dragons - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Dec 01, 2008 8:27 pm

They'd likely get shot down anyway, Gregole seems quite determined to oppose their presence in here.
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PostSubject: Re: Dragons   Dragons - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Dec 01, 2008 8:53 pm

At the risk of making him mad-I feel that GREGOLE just doesn't want Felarya to loose that special quality it has.

A sudden thought strikes me-what if the local elementals choose to take dragon form?
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PostSubject: Re: Dragons   Dragons - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Dec 01, 2008 9:16 pm

Zoekin wrote:
At the risk of making him mad-I feel that GREGOLE just doesn't want Felarya to loose that special quality it has.

A sudden thought strikes me-what if the local elementals choose to take dragon form?

A loophole in the system?!

Dragonic elementals could be interesting, as the creature's intelligence and form would depend entirely on the individual elemental. For instance, a craggy, monstrous, shambling earth elemental in the form of a wingless dragon if you so wish. Then there's the great appetites for both magical and physical nourishment, which they might use these forms and their weaponry to take on prey with strong magic.

This reminds me that Mist Elves are part Water Dragon, which I presume are themselves part dragon (of some sort) and water elemental. Since they passed on dragonic traits to the Mist Elves, it is unlikely they are full-blooded elementals. I don't know, but maybe variations of these kinds of elemental-dragon hybrids exist, although I have yet to see mention of them elsewhere besides the Mist Elf article in the wiki.
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PostSubject: Re: Dragons   Dragons - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Dec 01, 2008 9:24 pm

Well-a Fire Elemental might very well choose a draconic form. No reason why not.
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PostSubject: Re: Dragons   Dragons - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Dec 01, 2008 9:33 pm

I thought I read something about a Dimensional Dragon in the Wiki. I have it on the screen right now.

"Dimensional dragons are natives of Sandrag. They are able to navigate through dimensions, and some of them have warped themselves to Felarya to set up residence in the deeper regions. They're quite intelligent and attack anything that they think can put up a decent fight and is edible. They are rather friendly to humans though, mainly because humans are present on their homeworld as well, but that doesn't mean that they won't eat one every now and then.

Dimensional dragons have a spiked back, sharp claws, razor sharp teeth and strong tails. Males have dark blue scales while females have a lighter shade of blue on their scales, and have smaller spikes on their back. Although they rarely use it they do have some magical ability, and most of them have some magical resistances. Unlike most dragons they do not have wings, but with the help of levitation magic some of them can fly anyway.

They can breath a white flame that is imbued with magical powers of their own choosing. For example, they might enhance their flame with the ability to damage the body and soul of their foe, an attack which sometimes temporarily paralyzes the victim.

These great beasts are tough opponents and very hard to kill."

Hm. It flies, is magical, has super breath, and is friendly to humans for the most part. Its big, clawed, and dangerous. This was copy and pasted. GREGOLE, any comments?

Seems to me that as long as it has some origianal concepts to it, its fine.
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PostSubject: Re: Dragons   Dragons - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Dec 01, 2008 9:43 pm

Oh yes-the dragons are there all right. But I personally would be EXTREMELY careful using them. I've seen it done by some great writers though but I don't consider myself in that league.

I wonder if a dragon could be mechanical? Some long lost artifact.
(Like in the book "The Iron Dragon")
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PostSubject: Re: Dragons   Dragons - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Dec 01, 2008 10:00 pm

Or...
Clockwork Dragon?
Not many artifice creatures on Felarya.
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PostSubject: Re: Dragons   Dragons - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Dec 01, 2008 10:24 pm

Oh man-I HATE constructs!

(They regularly kill me at D&D)

Still-there might be one or two lying around.
I'm glad dragons do live in Felarya but I'm also glad that they don't hog the spotlight. I llike them very much. Always have, always will. But Felarya belongs to Crisis, Anna and their friends.


And that's all I have to say.


*Leaves to lick wounds*
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PostSubject: Re: Dragons   Dragons - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Dec 02, 2008 2:21 am

XLRP : I find you a bit offensive here. Your comment about Tanya was not really needed and stating how vampires are just like bloodsucking insects was somehow needlessly pouring oil on fire Neutral

Also Gregole, I know you have strong opinions about dragons and elements you regard are fantasy cliches, but I would be grateful if you try to write less "passionnnate" comments about it in general ^^;

Please keep the discussion civil and friendly everyone.
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PostSubject: Re: Dragons   Dragons - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Dec 02, 2008 3:47 am

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Oh man-I HATE constructs!

(They regularly kill me at D&D)

Still-there might be one or two lying around.
I'm glad dragons do live in Felarya but I'm also glad that they don't hog the spotlight. I llike them very much. Always have, always will. But Felarya belongs to Crisis, Anna and their friends.


And that's all I have to say.


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Since WHEN did i say the dragons have to hog the spotlight? and since WHEN did i say they have to be like fantasy dragons e.g. talking and intelligent?! I HATE fantasy dragons!! I just wanted some bloodthirsty ones to live there and make the place scarier... Geez i never knew ppl hated dragons so much...
No offence, zoekin. Just quoted your message cus of the "hogging spotlight" part Neutral
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PostSubject: Re: Dragons   Dragons - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Dec 02, 2008 7:21 am

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XLRP : I find you a bit offensive here. Your comment about Tanya was not really needed and stating how vampires are just like bloodsucking insects was somehow needlessly pouring oil on fire Neutral

Please keep the discussion civil and friendly everyone.

Tanya is a well writen and lovable antagonist. And is inhabiting the body of Neko named Sonya. That body has no need to suck blood, is unaffected by sunlight, Holy Water, Silver, garlic or even a Cross. She keeps her personality, knowledge of items, and spellcasting. While she gains better reflexes but is reduced to the regualr strength of her current body.

With thats being said, she has lost all her qualifications to be called a Vampire. She can be call a lot of things from a Supirior spellcaster, an Overwhelmingly Powerful Spirit, Astral projection with a new host, To even a Poltergeist. Without having any reasonable traits that can classify her as a Vampire. There is no argument aginast that she once was a Vampire. However, that all went out the window after her first death.

My point is she can never return to being a Vampire. All forms of Necrmancy on Felarya are void. With that she is a good character that I have nothing aginst. Just callhing her a Vampire when she no longer has the minimum requirement of the classification just seems odd.

The whole "vampires are just like bloodsucking insects " comment is my fault for over simplifying my point. I still personaly don't care for vampires but that is my own personal ordeal but I digress. Vampire through out literature have always been either super evil for no reason or have that lineage and want to prove different. Tanya, as a Vampire, fits that text book modle of stereotype of evil for no reason. Reason why I didn't care for her character as a a Vampire.

My liking for her starts after she is resurected. Now she is no long evil just because that is what Vampires are supposed to be. She is evil because it is what she has come to know and that has been instilled in her. With that, to me she joines the ranks of lovable badguys such as Gunther, Arale, or Eshka or The Joker(From Batman) there is no logical justification for they way that they act. It is just what they do.
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PostSubject: Re: Dragons   Dragons - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Dec 02, 2008 11:24 am

Throwing my two scents: The only "mundane" dragons Felarya could have are wild, non sapient/sentient/self-aware/magical, ever blood-thirsty monsters that would attack on anything. They could be intelligent enough to be tamed, but that's where I draw the line.

@xlrp: http://www.frontiernet.net/~tzuleger/vamps/vamptraits.htm As you can see, xlrp, vampires have a lot more advantages than you may think. Even if Tanya can't turn anyone into a vampire in Felarya, they can still die from losing too much blood. Personally, Tanya can still come back as a vamp other ways than necromancy, and even if she can't turn me into a vampire, she still has other means to wipe the floor with my ass any night.
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PostSubject: Re: Dragons   Dragons - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Dec 02, 2008 1:06 pm

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@xlrp: http://www.frontiernet.net/~tzuleger/vamps/vamptraits.htm As you can see, xlrp, vampires have a lot more advantages than you may think. Even if Tanya can't turn anyone into a vampire in Felarya, they can still die from losing too much blood. Personally, Tanya can still come back as a vamp other ways than necromancy, and even if she can't turn me into a vampire, she still has other means to wipe the floor with my ass any night.

This a thread about Dragons. I end my conversations on Vampires.
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Oh yeah, I may get some boos from dragon haters, but one thing I like is a class of dracomancy. Though I prefer it as warrior type, as I can't even begin to imagine how pure dragon-related magic class can be without being extremely cliché and cheesy.
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