Interspecies Weddings/Marriage

or being completely sub-servient to her, which is probably the most likely scenario...

in any event, the idea of marriage in most respects is not of the physical, but of the emotional bonding that occurs. Now with that in mind, it is entirely possible for any individual to marry any other individual.

The question of genetic compatibility is a moot one, since reproduction is not really a nessesity for emotional attachment of that kind, we see it in our own society with same sex marriages, thats proof that marriage and even the idea of sexual relations don't nessisarily need to be directly related to reproduction.

Is it really? Then why do so many gay couples adopt? Regardless of sexuality, we're programmed to want to continue our genetic line. It's natural selection. If this is impossible, we attempt to appease our impulses by raising a child as our own. Now, this is definitely emotionally rewarding as well as biologically, I am not denying that. I have nothing against adoption.

However, let's say a human and a fairy get together, and can't reproduce. And let's say they adopt a human child. How would that work? A fairy would be taught to raise children much differently than a human. Different mother/father relations, etcetera. These stem from genetic differences as well as cultural ones, do they not?

We also haven't approached the question of whether the Felaryan anti-aging soil affects a woman's "biological clock" or not. If it doesn't alter it, then human females for one would have trouble being with an incompatible genetic partner. Human males don't have this urge as badly, but it's not unthinkable that some would.

indeed.

I'm pretty sure the soil stops all aging, that's what it says in the wiki.

Even so, I think two species raising a child would definately pose some culture issues, but for that, it makes me wonder how any two people with different cultures here on earth raise their kids. the child would probably be brought in both, with the exception of food gathering on the fairy side. of course that's if the child is dominantly fairy, or dominantly human. either way that has little to do with marriage, and more of the sex aspect that is closely attributed with it.

I think an underlying purpose to this thread is saying that we need to brainstorm ceremonial events for the creatures. Any universe that wants to be complete needs to have some kind of rituals/ceremonies described. marriage is a good place to start, this is the first time i've seen this topic discussed so freely.

Hmm, I've always wondered what it would be like if a harpy's dad stayed around to help raise her. Would he even be welcome to do that, or would that be a big no, no in harpy culture? Would the mother be afraid that the father would raise her improperly for a Harpy? Possibly even teaching her an improper way of speaking?

or said harpy could just screw him, then eat him. like that one spider species. XD

Archmage_Bael wrote:

or said harpy could just screw him, then eat him. like that one spider species. XD

LOL this theory proves why there is no Dridder King hahaha

ZionAtriedes wrote:

Is it really? Then why do so many gay couples adopt? Regardless of sexuality, we're programmed to want to continue our genetic line. It's natural selection. If this is impossible, we attempt to appease our impulses by raising a child as our own. Now, this is definitely emotionally rewarding as well as biologically, I am not denying that. I have nothing against adoption.

However, let's say a human and a fairy get together, and can't reproduce. And let's say they adopt a human child. How would that work? A fairy would be taught to raise children much differently than a human. Different mother/father relations, etcetera. These stem from genetic differences as well as cultural ones, do they not?

We also haven't approached the question of whether the Felaryan anti-aging soil affects a woman's "biological clock" or not. If it doesn't alter it, then human females for one would have trouble being with an incompatible genetic partner. Human males don't have this urge as badly, but it's not unthinkable that some would.

#1: of course there is a genetic predisposition to "pass the torch" as they say, but as you also just pointed out, it doesn't nessisarily mean you have to propagate your own species via your own genetic line either, since adoption is a valid choice, and lord knows there are a ton of orphans floating around in Felarya (Check Crisis, she was adopted by Fairies)

#2: I think Fairies and Humans where stated as adaptable, same with Nekos, since the genetic gap isn't very big (well, I beleive that the genetic gap was stated to be small enough to be compatible somewhere in one of these threads... unlike say a human and a giant naga)

The genetic compatibility issue could also be resolved with that ever haxxing solution called magic , but thats a separate issue.

Archmage_Bael wrote:

or said harpy could just screw him, then eat him. like that one spider species. XD

Bah, way to ruin a perfectly good story idea! grumble grumble.

Claire wrote:

Claire (dridder) marries a Naga and they create the ultimate race. Thats the ending to my story lol

true story.

Dridder with a tail. WOW!

Reptillian wrote:

i remember a story of someone who married a slug girl.... who the hell wrote that again?

Timing2. David the human and Felecia the small slug-girl are happily married.

I've toyed with the idea. I tend to have small males attracted to giant females. Tan the tomthumb, who plays around with the neko Calina, but is in love with the giantess Milly. Or Isham the human, who feels something for Milly, even though his feelings are ill-defined. It's probably a sincere friendship combined with instinctive physical attraction, rather than love.

Anyway... I see no reason for inter-species marriages not to happen. I'm sure there are a number of human-neko, elf-human and neko-elf couples. As for people of different sizes, there may be giant predators who think that humans are adorably cute.

French snack wrote:

Reptillian wrote:

i remember a story of someone who married a slug girl.... who the hell wrote that again?

Timing2. David the human and Felecia the small slug-girl are happily married.

I've toyed with the idea. I tend to have small males attracted to giant females. Tan the tomthumb, who plays around with the neko Calina, but is in love with the giantess Milly. Or Isham the human, who feels something for Milly, even though his feelings are ill-defined. It's probably a sincere friendship combined with instinctive physical attraction, rather than love.

Anyway... I see no reason for inter-species marriages not to happen. I'm sure there are a number of human-neko, elf-human and neko-elf couples. As for people of different sizes, there may be giant predators who think that humans are adorably cute.

Thats why I specified human sized varieties. (or at least a smaller meiramine)

Whoa, Zion just thought of something! If the Felaryan soil boosts the immune system... then, um, should ANY procreation be possible? The female body attacks incoming sperm, and in a few cases even the embryo. So, if the immune system can fight any virus, could it not destroy any sperm before they even reach the egg?

ZionAtriedes wrote:

Whoa, Zion just thought of something! If the Felaryan soil boosts the immune system... then, um, should ANY procreation be possible? The female body attacks incoming sperm, and in a few cases even the embryo. So, if the immune system can fight any virus, could it not destroy any sperm before they even reach the egg?

Hmm. I'm not sure. Firstly, I'm not quite positive that the sperm killing process is directly linked to the bacteria and virus killing immune system.
On the other hand, maybe it does. Perhaps on Felarya sperm are just tougher and better to compensate or males get a higher sperm count due to the natural enhancement of the world. : D

Jætte_Troll wrote:

ZionAtriedes wrote:

Whoa, Zion just thought of something! If the Felaryan soil boosts the immune system... then, um, should ANY procreation be possible? The female body attacks incoming sperm, and in a few cases even the embryo. So, if the immune system can fight any virus, could it not destroy any sperm before they even reach the egg?

Hmm. I'm not sure. Firstly, I'm not quite positive that the sperm killing process is directly linked to the bacteria and virus killing immune system.
On the other hand, maybe it does. Perhaps on Felarya sperm are just tougher and better to compensate or males get a higher sperm count due to the natural enhancement of the world. : D

I'd say the latter there. Since everyone is perfectly healthy (barring a magic curse) a guy's sperm count would be huge, especially seeing as due to the magic healing defective sperm would be uncommon. They're probably tougher too

Anime-Junkie wrote:

Jætte_Troll wrote:

ZionAtriedes wrote:

Whoa, Zion just thought of something! If the Felaryan soil boosts the immune system... then, um, should ANY procreation be possible? The female body attacks incoming sperm, and in a few cases even the embryo. So, if the immune system can fight any virus, could it not destroy any sperm before they even reach the egg?

Hmm. I'm not sure. Firstly, I'm not quite positive that the sperm killing process is directly linked to the bacteria and virus killing immune system.
On the other hand, maybe it does. Perhaps on Felarya sperm are just tougher and better to compensate or males get a higher sperm count due to the natural enhancement of the world. : D

I'd say the latter there. Since everyone is perfectly healthy (barring a magic curse) a guy's sperm count would be huge, especially seeing as due to the magic healing defective sperm would be uncommon. They're probably tougher too

I was all ready to counter the "sperm would be supercharged too" argument, because bacteria aren't either. However, I never took QUANTITY into consideration. XD

Felaryan porn is probably off the hook crazy. This discussion is awkward, even for felarya standards.

meh, it's semi pornagraphic as it is, especially with Melany and Vivian

But I digress, it's not entirely the point of this thread is it?

Archmage_Bael wrote:

Felaryan porn is probably off the hook crazy. This discussion is awkward, even for felarya standards.

Yeah...like its already not?

Interspecies relationships likely aren't rare in Felarya. An Elf likes a Neko for her survival capabilities, a Nemesis has a fetish for people with short necks, a young Naga develops a childhood crush on a Harpy that kept its sibling from eating him, and so on. While this isn't to say they're going to be common, you probably could - in the very least - find many tales with at least some basis in fact. After all, isn't there at least two species on Felarya that require beings from another species to procreate? I'm sure at least a few of them (those of the above species) have been known to love the other involved in the equation.

Marriage, however, I think would be more uncommon. A Giant Slug Girl's spouse is eaten by a friend who thought him a snack ordered for the wedding. The Oth follower doesn't feel right acknowledging a relationship with a "vile creature" to the gods. Some Mermaid can't understand the ceremony that the Dridder is proposing. And so on. There'd be binding / permanent relationships, yes, but they wouldn't have a proper ceremony or anything of the sort. Those that would be had would require greater similarities between the two parties (A Giant and Man-Sized Marriage would prove quite troublesome due to double standards on who could bring family, garb, and so on).

Let alone that - while the Guardians / "Gods" of Felarya might find a friendship / deep friendship between two separate species quite nice - there's probably a few Guardians / "Gods" of Felarya who'd take such a break of the usual order of things to put a curse on the day or something. Just because they aren't as dickish as the Grecian Gods doesn't mean they aren't dicks. Day before the wedding a Naga is turned into a voracious snake because some Predator-god is pissed that they aren't "OM NOM NOM"ing. A Neera is blown drastically off course and misses its ceremony, none being able to find it leading the others to believe it chickened out. And so on, and so on. Hm, that could be a decent story actually involving a Dridder who's a Seeker of Sineria (sp?). Turned into a gigantic spider as it was about to give up the search on finding 'er Tomb to settle down. "Want to settle down in life? Fine, I'll grant you your wish. May your belly bloat and brood grow for all time."


Then, in addition to all the above, is the whole "can they breed" schtick. For some, "Magic says yes" is the answer. For others, it depends entirely on the writer. Obviously there would likely be more problems with some relations than others. An insect and a reptile, for instance, would probably have less successful odds than a Mammal and a Mammal - especially if they're both extremely close biologically (Elf & Human?).

^ What he said, you don't have to have a marriage ceremony to claim a mate/have a relationship. Marrying a fairy is scary anyway, it's one thing to have a wife who makes you feel small when she gets angry. It's entirely another thing to have a wife who makes you small when she gets angry.


Note to self: Cheating in Felarya would probably end up even worse than in real life.

In a universe where a human that gets eaten and half digested and just prior to getting digested undergoes a sudden save and life altercation by external forces vaguely defined and seldom understood to become a separate creature entirely....


...you want to argue the possibility of the scientific ramifications of whether or not breeding would be possible. I'd point out the relative silliness of such a thing, but I think Anna's story spells it out for me.






If genetic structure can be altered, regardless of the event or the rarity of the occurrence or the outside forces involved, then yes, any writer should be able to come up with a gray area idea that allows it to occur, provided they have some imagination. And its not honestly that impossible to conceive that you wouldn't need hefty science to make this happen. There are several species on earth that are already capable of self-conception (lookup parthenogenesis), or alteration of their own genetic material in order to achieve a form of immortality (see turritopsis nutricula jellyfish), and we already have hermaphrodites. Humanity is currently elbows deep into iPSCs, which could become our own 'fountain of youth', as it were, the ability to recreate 'blank slates' from cells that are already defined while avoiding most of the ethics debate of stem cells. This isn't really that far fetched of a fantasy, for a separate species to procreate with a different species. It would most probably not be a function 'built' naturally into a species, but given the levels of magic and technology available to Felarya due to its unique dimensional ability, the ability to circumvent the 'norm' can't realistically be discounted.

Grave wrote:

Marrying a fairy is scary anyway, it's one thing to have a wife who makes you feel small when she gets angry. It's entirely another thing to have a wife who makes you small when she gets angry.

Heheheh. Too true. (Quoted!)
Marrying a fairy is not for the faint hearted, no matter how much you love her.

New wrinkle: Human step-children. I guess it'd be hard for a 10 year old to accept thier new "Mother" when she's continually eyeing him hungrily.

FalconJudge wrote:

New wrinkle: Human step-children. I guess it'd be hard for a 10 year old to accept thier new "Mother" when she's continually eyeing him hungrily.

Or the reverse.

Imagine having a naga step child...

i think a human with a fairy niece or nephew would make for a very mean relative >_<