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PostSubject: Re: General Q and A   General Q and A - Page 14 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 01, 2011 2:19 pm

Either way, Anna is now stuck in a naga body because it's as if she was always a naga and grew up as such (the wiki mentions that her body already has experience, so that would imply that it got hurt, moved and became stronger), so it's really more akin to reality being rewritten by a cosmic retcon which may or may not have involved Notys in some fashion. Other thing: her little comic bio said that after said event, it makes her only the 4th luckiest person in existence. Who would be the three luckier persons and how do you top what happened to Anna in terms of sheer improbability?
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Um, well, existence is sort of infinite, so really, the possibilities for the three more luckiest people are.... infinite.
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Fair enough.

Other question: Is it common for nekos, even if they live in villages or bigger communities, to be bare foot?
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Well, Minalca is probably the first luckiest (if she counts as a person), especially if she was a mortal-turned-divine like some in fiction / mythologies are (You don't get much luckier than becoming the one in control of all luck).

From there, it's iffy. Anna's "lucky" insofar as she became an Apex Predator and avoided death. But there were a lot of drawbacks to her change as well (as well as the situations leading up to it). If Minalca's included in the top four, that leaves two people between Anna and Minalca, and I'd guess that this would be kept that way specifically for vagueness (potentially even be a key religious matter at some points, especially amongst those who worship Minalca).
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PostSubject: Re: General Q and A   General Q and A - Page 14 Icon_minitimeSun Jan 02, 2011 11:18 am

If Felarya doesn't have a sky of its own, how exactly is it able to prevent excess radiation from whatever sun/suns it is using from frying the plane?

Does Felarya have an ozone layer?
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It probably uses the one from the world it's connected to.
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Felarya has an atmosphere, it doesn't have 'space.'
Felarya connects to an area of space the correct distance from a random suitable star for it to be heated and lit properly.
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wait, that raises another question: since it doesn't have space, and the sun that's 'borrowed' so-to-speak is located a safe distance away, then what's in between the top of the atmosphere, and where the sun is? you cant really say it's nothing, since space essentially IS nothing. It's why I thought that the light and warmth was borrowed and not the sun itself, because then the sun would have to be located too close to felarya, otherwise the atmosphere would be way to high up.
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The issue is, if there's no space, there has to be a ceiling. Whether that ceiling is one massive portal (which would then technically give it a "space", just one that changes / could leave you no mean to return), a literal "ceiling" to the plane (which would start going into odd physics formulas and theories I don't have the time to bother with), or something else is up for debate, but there'd have to be some sort of "roof". That, or it would extend infinitely upward, but then that has the issue that at some point you would eventually achieve a space-like condition through the lack of atmosphere, air, and so on.
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wait, that raises another question: since it doesn't have space, and the sun that's 'borrowed' so-to-speak is located a safe distance away, then what's in between the top of the atmosphere, and where the sun is? you cant really say it's nothing, since space essentially IS nothing. It's why I thought that the light and warmth was borrowed and not the sun itself, because then the sun would have to be located too close to felarya, otherwise the atmosphere would be way to high up.

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The issue is, if there's no space, there has to be a ceiling. Whether that ceiling is one massive portal (which would then technically give it a "space", just one that changes / could leave you no mean to return), a literal "ceiling" to the plane (which would start going into odd physics formulas and theories I don't have the time to bother with), or something else is up for debate, but there'd have to be some sort of "roof". That, or it would extend infinitely upward, but then that has the issue that at some point you would eventually achieve a space-like condition through the lack of atmosphere, air, and so on.

This has been established for a while. There is an atomosphere, and all the different layers that constitute one. If you fly up to the very top of the Felarya atmosphere, you eventually exit through the portal that makes up the entire sky, and wind up at a random point out in empty space. If you look back, all you will see is more empty space, as the portal only goes one way.

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The Felaryan plane
Felarya, despite its initial appearance, is not a world in the sense of the word that we are familiar with. It's a closed pocket plane, with an ever-changing mass. The easiest way to picture Felarya is to think of it as a massive, flat disk. Forming a ring around the perimeter of the disk is a massive dimensional rift. This rift connects to the opposite side of the rift. Because the connection is instant and impossible to detect by any normal means, this gives Felarya the appearance of a spherical world, and it is indeed possible to circumnavigate Felarya, if you can survive the trip.

The next main feature of the Felaryan dimensional plane is the sky itself. Felarya has no “space” around it like a normal world would. There is no way to view it from space. The sky of Felarya is divided into layers, like the atmosphere of a normal planet, but at the point where you would enter into orbit on a normal world, is a massive dimensional rift in the sky of Felarya. Once you pass through this rift, you leave Felarya and appear at a random point in the empty space of the universe. For example, if you were to fly straight up in a rocket, you would eventually reach the rift and pass through. If you only looked straight ahead, it would appear to you like you’d simply flown into orbit and entered space. Upon looking behind you, all you would see is empty space, since you have left Felarya through the rift. Once you exit this way, there is no way back.

Of course, if Felarya has a vertical barrier to its plane, there must also be a subterranean one as well. The ground of Felarya is layered and structured similar to a normal planet’s. But if you were to dig down deep enough (many miles) you would pass through the subterranean rift. You would then appear several miles under the ground of a random planet in the universe. If you kept looking straight ahead, you would just seem to be digging like normal, but once you pass the rift, looking back would only reveal a wall of dirt. Felarya would be gone and you couldn’t go back. This scenario is highly unlikely though, since it would be nearly impossible for any living creature, or machine to dig that deep.

Note that the image of a flat disk is only meant as a way to better understand this theory and Yarblek himself never said Felarya actually formed a disk.
- The Wiki

That whole page is full of interesting info. http://felarya.com/wiki/index.php?title=Physics
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The next main feature of the Felaryan dimensional plane is the sky itself. Felarya has no “space” around it like a normal world would. There is no way to view it from space.

That means that there is no way for light from a star to reach it. For there to be a visible sun, it would have to be located within the atmosphere, which would end up burning all of felarya up.
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Maybe the portal lets light through, but nothing else?
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I'm surprised that people forgot this. The atmosphere and the sky have been in the wiki for a while. Even before it was developed in the physics thread the idea was pretty much the same.

rcs619 wrote:
as the portal only goes one way.
The Wiki wrote:
The only way to do it would be to fire randomly into space and hope the shot would pass through a dimension currently connected to Felarya and hit it from there. Assuming that the universe is infinite, the chance of this would be one in... infinity.
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If you only looked straight ahead, it would appear to you like you’d simply flown into orbit and entered space. Upon looking behind you, all you would see is empty space, since you have left Felarya through the rift. Once you exit this way, there is no way back.

Sure is contradiction around here.
One says that you can pass through both ways, the other doesn't.
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the portal is supposed to go one way right? from the felarya side, not the "space" side, which means that there's still no medium for light to travel to from the sun that's supposed to be visible from a space that doesn't exist within felaryan context, to warm up the dimensional plane that is supposed to receive light from the side of the barrier that nothing can get through. point.

so how does light (and the visible star "borrowed") access felarya?
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The next main feature of the Felaryan dimensional plane is the sky itself. Felarya has no “space” around it like a normal world would. There is no way to view it from space.

That means that there is no way for light from a star to reach it. For there to be a visible sun, it would have to be located within the atmosphere, which would end up burning all of felarya up.

Of course the star isn't located within the atmosphere. The sky portal is wierd. It lets the light from the stars and moons its connected to through, but if you go through it, you cannot come back. Its something in the way the portals work, just like how Felarya will only connect to compatible worlds. its some kind of safeguard.
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So the portal just makes an exception? ...

Anyway, that isn't on the Physics page anywhere.
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Archmage_Bael wrote:
So the portal just makes an exception? ...

Anyway, that isn't on the Physics page anywhere.

Its likely that the connection to stars and moons, and the actual passage of objects through the sky rift are two completely seperate processes, and work under different rules.
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Yeah AJ described it like a glass pane.
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It's like those one-sided mirrors. You can see through from one side, but not from the other.
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Yeah, so why doesn't this have it's own place in the wiki? If it's not in there, people keep guessing.
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Its likely that the connection to stars and moons, and the actual passage of objects through the sky rift are two completely seperate processes, and work under different rules.
I don't think it'd have to be that complex.


To use an analogy:
Imagine a one way valve, made of glass. Atoms can pass through in one direction (out), but photons and similar particles pass through in both.

That's what you've got, but it's a portal.


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But... energy come through too, if I recall right. Hence why it doesn't have a static temperature regardless of day / night.


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Indeed. Modified to reflect that.
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I got a question that's kinda timeline related from the earlier posted timeline.

Would the founding of the Magiocrat order as the leading political power in Negav take place before or after the sealing of Dremechelle? This information should help me with something I'm working on
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Probably after I would say; when one looks at the whole Felaryan time line the Magiocrats haven't been in power for all too long.
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