General Q and A

I've came out with a question that I've half resolved myself:

Is there a precise "multiplier" at the moment to calculate one character's height as a giant?
I mean for exemple, if we have a human sized fairy of height 'X', and then she decides to change size to giant one ; by how much do we have to multiply 'X' to have a height proportional to an average giant?

The tricky part about this is that we need a giant average height and a human average height, and I'm unsure about that. (The result should be Giant average height/Human Average height, correct?)

Between the various giantess calculators and Karbo's size chart you should have all the data required to answer your question, at least from a Felaryan standpoint.

I use 110 for the average giant height and 6 for the average human height.

Alright, supposedly this has been discussed before, but could a Dusk Nymph actually live in Negav?

Cauldronborn is of the opinion that they can't, as he thinks the Isolon Eye forces them to remain in shadow form and, even if it didn't, they'd be discovered by Negav security.

...Related question:

How out of place would someone dressed as a ninja be?

The Wiki The Isolon Eye wrote:

Very few understand how it (the Isolon eye) works, but what matters is that it seems to keep many gargantuan monsters at bay, through some unknown magic. In fact, some researchers have established that the Crystal effect is related both to the size of a creature, and to its degree of appetite for humanoids. In clear, the larger and the more voracious the creature, the more pronounced the warding effect is...There is exception to this rule though, and some rare beings seem to be much less affected. The reason why is a complete mystery.

The Wiki Dusk Nymphs wrote:

Once, a dusk nymph caused a great panic in Negav and ate several citizens before being chased away. For some reason, this kind of fairy appears to be totally immune to the effect of the The Isolon Eye, the main defense of the city. Even the Ps'isol magiocrats are utterly clueless as to the reasons for this immunity.

Now can they get in and change to their humanoid form yes, but whether they were found out or not is a different question. Keep in mind that being fully clothed from head to toe is very suspicious your best bet at moving would be merging with shadows and maintaining a small size to avoid anyone spotting you, because if you get spotted and caught you are dead. No one will try to save a predator in Negav.

But would being covered from head to toe really be that conspicuous?

I mean, there are plenty of reasons why someone would need to clothe themselves like that.

I would think so. It most certainly would draw unwanted attention on yourself. The number of reasons one would want to disguise themselves are the reasons why it would draw attention, and for a dusk nymph trying to survive in Negav any attention is bad attention. Keep in mind that the people of Negav aren't know for being tolerant to people of differing races.

What you forget is that Negav's walls are lined up with detection devices and mages casting identification spells. If they saw a guy wrapped up from head to toe, they'll get a mage to cast a spell to reveal what he or she really looks like if he's not compliant.

Ah, but she didn't walk in thought the gates, she hid in a couple of adveturers' shadows.

a few question i need to have answerd.

1. what was the Total Strenght of the Isolon Fist, Investagators, Negavian Police, and Vishtamal Security Forces in 2020 AU? by the Numbers Please.
2. What was all of the above strenghts equipment wise ( like so and so had 100 assualt jet bikes or something like that) in 2020 AU
3. what is the Average number of units of the Forces above that Fall in the Line of duty a year? (if any)
4. Just what are the Above Forces weaknesses, ( There has to be some, i mean they are human(ish) and thus have Human Flaws and if they dont then that just seems Unblanced.)
5. what could make a Isolon Fist Turn tale and run? ( Muilti answer questtion)
A. seeing an enraged Anna
B. seeing one man Brutaly Kill 11 of his sqaud Mates
C. An angry Magiocrate
D. Other ( if other please speicify on what it is)
That is all for now Gentalmen

Having a Dusk Nymph live in Negav on her own, without any support is going to be a challenge in itself; you're automatically restricted in what you can do otherwise people are going to start asking questions. Most Negavians are xenophobic, and the authorities are worse in that respect. She would need to know she can't do things that she would be able to do in her natural environment, that is going to take a lot of dicipiline. So while Dusk Nymphs can sneak into Negav; there are reasons as to why it is very uncommon, one is their natural habbitat is so far away, the other is that it is more trouble than it is worth; the Isolon Eye may not be an issue but the people, all those eyes and ears within the city, pose a very dangerous threat.

luke112 wrote:

a few question i need to have answerd.

1. what was the Total Strenght of the Isolon Fist, Investagators, Negavian Police, and Vishtamal Security Forces in 2020 AU? by the Numbers Please.
2. What was all of the above strenghts equipment wise ( like so and so had 100 assualt jet bikes or something like that) in 2020 AU
3. what is the Average number of units of the Forces above that Fall in the Line of duty a year? (if any)
4. Just what are the Above Forces weaknesses, ( There has to be some, i mean they are human(ish) and thus have Human Flaws and if they dont then that just seems Unblanced.)

None of those questions have been answered. There is no official information on those matters. You'd have to ask Karbo- and he hasn't answered those questions for a reason. Usually, he prefers to see what do people come up with.
I'd recommend you to assume any answer you need for your story- we'll see later how you work through it, and whether you do well or not.

luke112 wrote:

5. what could make a Isolon Fist Turn tale and run? ( Muilti answer questtion)
A. seeing an enraged Anna
B. seeing one man Brutaly Kill 11 of his sqaud Mates
C. An angry Magiocrate
D. Other ( if other please speicify on what it is)
That is all for now Gentalmen

Depends on the individual member.

CauldronBorn24 wrote:

Having a Dusk Nymph live in Negav on her own, without any support is going to be a challenge in itself; you're automatically restricted in what you can do otherwise people are going to start asking questions. Most Negavians are xenophobic, and the authorities are worse in that respect. She would need to know she can't do things that she would be able to do in her natural environment, that is going to take a lot of dicipline. So while Dusk Nymphs can sneak into Negav; there are reasons as to why it is very uncommon, one is their natural habbitat is so far away, the other is that it is more trouble than it is worth; the Isolon Eye may not be an issue but the people within the city pose a very dangerous threat.

Which is why I decided to develop the two adventures from "a way in" into "two guys helping her so they don't get killed for letting a damn Dusk Nymph into the city".

Black Aquila wrote:

Which is why I decided to develop the two adventures from "a way in" into "two guys helping her so they don't get killed for letting a damn Dusk Nymph into the city".

Even then, that just makes those two guys a target to be lynched if they are found out. While it is not immpossible it is a very hard undertaking.

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Now can they get in and change to their humanoid form yes, but whether they were found out or not is a different question. Keep in mind that being fully clothed from head to toe is very suspicious your best bet at moving would be merging with shadows and maintaining a small size to avoid anyone spotting you, because if you get spotted and caught you are dead. No one will try to save a predator in Negav.

Yeah, Dusk Nymphs are completely immune to The Eye for some reason.

Negav's main defense against Dusk Nymphs is their rarity. Dusk Nymphs don't naturally live in the near-Negav area. The only way one would even be brought to the city is if she rode the shadow of an adventurer that had travelled up to her territory.

It'd be extremely dangerous for a Dusk Nymph in Negav though. She'd have to move very carefully, and if she gets found out, she's going to have to worry about the Isolon Fist coming to look for her.

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But would being covered from head to toe really be that conspicuous?

I mean, there are plenty of reasons why someone would need to clothe themselves like that.

Keep in mind, cloaks don't work like they do in animes. Even if she were wearing a cloak, there's a chance soemone would be able to see her face, and the pitch-black skin and glowing red eyes are a clear give-away. The Dusk Nymph would also need to hide that glowing red halo that is found around her midsection. I think the idea of a Dusk Nymph just walking through the streets is highly unlikely. She's going to have to move carefully, using a mixture of her shrinking magic and shadow magic, and she's only going to be moving around at night.

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3. what is the Average number of units of the Forces above that Fall in the Line of duty a year? (if any)

No one knows the total number of Isolon Fist at this time.

What we do know is that the Isolon Fist is deployed in squads. The typical Isolon Fist squad, from what I've seen and talked to people about, contains two battlemages. These battlemages are paired together because their powers complement eachother. They are trained to work in tandem to take down the same target. Supporting the pair of battlemages are roughly a dozen conventionally armed soldiers. They're going to be using high-damage, anti-vehicle/anti-armor weapons, such as rockets and light machine-guns.

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5. what could make a Isolon Fist Turn tale and run? ( Muilti answer questtion)

The Isolon Fist are specifically trained to fight the giant predators of Felarya. That is their main job, and each Isolon Fist member knows that. The Isolon Fist are the elites of the Negavian military forces, they aren't just going to turn tail and run.

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A. seeing an enraged Anna

Once again, they're trained to fight giant preds. Seeing one of them angry is a normal thing for them.

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B. seeing one man Brutaly Kill 11 of his sqaud Mates

They're trained soldiers, and armed to the teeth with guns, explosives and powerful magic. One man isn't going to be able to kill an entire Isolon Fist squad. Also, they know that death is a potential risk of their job, and that they may end up seeing comrades get eaten or killed. They aren't just going to turn tail and run at the drop of a hat.

The Isolon Fist aren't normal military, they're the equivalent of special forces.

Stabs wrote:

luke112 wrote:

a few question i need to have answerd.

1. what was the Total Strenght of the Isolon Fist, Investagators, Negavian Police, and Vishtamal Security Forces in 2020 AU? by the Numbers Please.
2. What was all of the above strenghts equipment wise ( like so and so had 100 assualt jet bikes or something like that) in 2020 AU
3. what is the Average number of units of the Forces above that Fall in the Line of duty a year? (if any)
4. Just what are the Above Forces weaknesses, ( There has to be some, i mean they are human(ish) and thus have Human Flaws and if they dont then that just seems Unblanced.)

None of those questions have been answered. There is no official information on those matters. You'd have to ask Karbo- and he hasn't answered those questions for a reason. Usually, he prefers to see what do people come up with.
I'd recommend you to assume any answer you need for your story- we'll see later how you work through it, and whether you do well or not.

luke112 wrote:

5. what could make a Isolon Fist Turn tale and run? ( Muilti answer questtion)
A. seeing an enraged Anna
B. seeing one man Brutaly Kill 11 of his sqaud Mates
C. An angry Magiocrate
D. Other ( if other please speicify on what it is)
That is all for now Gentalmen

Depends on the individual member.

Actually i was asking CauldronBorn Because he Pretty much always answers these Questions thoughly and clearly every time i ask them.

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But even speacial Forces lose their Nerve cliff, Usally the FNG and then we must know that Their is always a Possablity that it could happen. and also we know that Even the Best speacial Forces sqaud could all Die if they Fight angianst something that had never been encountered and they underestamed it , something like a super soldier. this is just on the Assumption that The Isolon Fist is Trianed Like the ODST's and the Unkown would be a Spartan-II and the assumption that there is no Battle mage in the Sqaud (it could happen you know)

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But even speacial Forces lose their Nerve cliff, Usally the FNG and then we must know that Their is always a Possablity that it could happen. and also we know that Even the Best speacial Forces sqaud could all Die if they Fight angianst something that had never been encountered and they underestamed it , something like a super soldier. this is just on the Assumption that The Isolon Fist is Trianed Like the ODST's and the Unkown would be a Spartan-II and the assumption that there is no Battle mage in the Sqaud (it could happen you know)

So many Halo referrences...

No, there are always battlemages in the squad. They are the main weapon of the Isolon Fist. The squad of soldiers is there to support them.

The idea that one guy with a few extra muscles is going to do anything against a dozen heavily armed soldiers and a pair of powerful, highly trained mages, is just absurd.

I agree with rcs. The Isolon Fist would make quick work of Mac (since we all know that he is the super soldier your referencing).

luke112 wrote:

Spoiler:

But even speacial Forces lose their Nerve cliff, Usally the FNG and then we must know that Their is always a Possablity that it could happen. and also we know that Even the Best speacial Forces sqaud could all Die if they Fight angianst something that had never been encountered and they underestamed it , something like a super soldier. this is just on the Assumption that The Isolon Fist is Trianed Like the ODST's and the Unkown would be a Spartan-II and the assumption that there is no Battle mage in the Sqaud (it could happen you know)

LMAO - No. There would be a fight. Maybe some Police would die. Then the Battlemages would come in and this "hypothetical supersoldier" would get raped. By Magic. Even without that, the Negav Police aren't retarded. If they see someone who appears to be large and strong, they're just going to fall back and call in people with sniper rifles.

As for, specifically, a Battle Mage Squad - Cliff has this right. But a single squad isn't going to be the response to a threat within Negav. Even Master Chief can't fight magic. Your "hypothetical" supersolider would be obliterated.

luke112 wrote:

a few question i need to have answerd.

1. what was the Total Strenght of the Isolon Fist, Investagators, Negavian Police, and Vishtamal Security Forces in 2020 AU? by the Numbers Please.
2. What was all of the above strenghts equipment wise ( like so and so had 100 assualt jet bikes or something like that) in 2020 AU
3. what is the Average number of units of the Forces above that Fall in the Line of duty a year? (if any)
4. Just what are the Above Forces weaknesses, ( There has to be some, i mean they are human(ish) and thus have Human Flaws and if they dont then that just seems Unblanced.)
5. what could make a Isolon Fist Turn tale and run? ( Muilti answer questtion)
A. seeing an enraged Anna
B. seeing one man Brutaly Kill 11 of his sqaud Mates
C. An angry Magiocrate
D. Other ( if other please speicify on what it is)
That is all for now Gentalmen

Here are the answers you requested; though to be honest the best answer would be No. We know you are trying to create a scenario in which your character Mac fights a onesided battle with the different Negavian forces; so really I could give you any answer but in the end it won't matter as you'll write it so that Mac would previal against all possible odds. Interesting that you use an argument off odds aginst the Isolon Fist yet you will not apply that same argument to your own character. This is getting rather tiresome, if you actually payed attention to previous answers provided by other members of the community and myself, then you would know such a battle would not take place. Of course that is using the logic we as a community tend to follow, you on the other hand seem very determinded to defie that logic for whatever reason.

Seriously, why are you using Felarya? If you want to prove that Mac and the Endorians are indeed formidable warriors, though you have gone to such extreme lengths your efforts to do so are now laughable, why not make an enemy force of your own for them to fight? Why are you so inistant they need to fight on Felarya? Why are you so inistant on pitting them against the brain childs of others, seemingly ignoring their input, and having your character prevail against all odds? If you really want to continue with 'Mac vs the World then Mac winning' trend then I HIGHLY recommend you have such affiars take place outside of Felarya. You're just pissing people off.

Felarya is about survival, yes that requires some degree of force. However going around with the Dalek mentality of trying to kill everything to ensure your survival is not the way to do so. Pitting your characters against the brain childs of others to show how powerful and awesome they are is not the way to do so; unless you want to your character to look overpowered and ridiculous within the eyes of the community. I'm sorry but you have type casted yourself in a bad way; your questions, your little quotes relating to either the Milita or characters, just about everything you post over time as resulted in this.

Any way the answers. Also please pay attention, you you may appreicate detailed answers that detail, and effort on my part, is lost if you take no heed from them.

1. More than enough to kill Mac and any accomplices. You think I'm kidding? The exact numbers are unknown and will remain unknown as that would depend on Negav's demography, and Karbo has not given exact details on Negav's population or even the number of Magiocrats; that doesn't just go for the Isolon Fists but for the Investigators and the Vishmitals as well. The only exact figure I can give you is for the Negav Police. In 2020 AU there were zero members in the Negav Police as the institution did not exist.

2. Again, more than enough to turn Mac and any accomplices into chared body parts or just remove them form Felarya completely and drop him somewhere else in the Multiverse. Considering the wide range of ablities and weapons accessable to the Isolon Fists alone, that is an accurate answer. Think of it this way; the weapons available to the Vishmitals range from laser pistols and 7.62mm assault rifles to 152.4mm artillery guns and guided missiles.

3. That is a statistic I can't come up with. By logic; considering that the Isolon Fists have to deal with the perils outside of Negav's walls, their casualty rate will be higher. Higher than what however I don't know.

4. What and having a single character take them all on and previal isn't unbalanced? Negav is humanity's main bastion on 'known' Felarya, consdiering the dnagers and perils of the world it is going to have the strength of a local super power and its forces reflect that; weaknesses in one force will be coverd by another. Any obvious weakness and the city could fall to ruin.

5. rcs619 and Jætte_Troll already covered that, there is no need to repeat what they said.

This is a little out of left field, but I feel it might as well be mentioned.

Is milk retailed in Felarya, and if so, does it come in a carton there, or do they put it in a different container?

@CauldronBorn - Thank you for finally saying that.

@Nyaha - Huh. Well... milk requires something to be milked. To be retailed, it requires something to be milked that can be milked in a herd. While I've not heard of anything like that being in existence (Felarya doesn't lend itself well to herding) there may be such a creature, its just not established.

Unless they have a history with such a herd animal, Negavians might not drink milk. A surprising fact is that lactose intolerance is the "normal" state for humans - we are meant to stop drinking milk once we stop drinking from our mother's breasts. However, certain societies became built up around pastoral living and milk made its way into their diet - these societies developed lactose tolerance. (If you look at which people have lactose tolerance, their racial background is likely to have been pastoral at some point).

Anyways, point being, Negavians would have need to have kept a herd animal for a long time. But it needn't be an exclusive thing. Maybe some races herded animals, other didn't.

Anyways, if Milk was sold in Negav, I'd figure it'd be sold in Milk Jugs. They're not shipping milk out (though maybe shipping it in.)

Well they have commercial ties from other worlds. Surely they get their milk, veggies, and all that from there.