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itsmeyouidiot Marauder of the deep jungle
Posts : 385 Join date : 2009-07-27 Age : 31 Location : The Pit
| Subject: Felarya TV Tropes Article Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:34 pm | |
| I just created an article for Felarya on TV Tropes! If you haven't heard of the site, it's a site used to catalog various techniques used in fiction. Careful, though, as XKCD pointed out, the site is very addicting, and you will probably need to keep track of your time if you want to avoid being there for too long!
If you're already a troper, well...
What are you waiting for? Go out there and get entry pimping! | |
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FalconJudge Hero
Posts : 1040 Join date : 2008-11-07 Age : 32 Location : Work
| Subject: Re: Felarya TV Tropes Article Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:01 pm | |
| Why... why would you post this?! You're wasting a good 60 minutes of my life! Never link to TVtropes!
Also, it's a good page, I like it. | |
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/Fish/ Hero
Posts : 1301 Join date : 2008-05-04 Age : 33 Location : The Stream of Consciousness
| Subject: Re: Felarya TV Tropes Article Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:07 pm | |
| Deleted because this is a terrible idea, poorly executed. You even got information about Felarya wrong.
Terrible. Go sit in a corner and think about what you've done. | |
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FalconJudge Hero
Posts : 1040 Join date : 2008-11-07 Age : 32 Location : Work
| Subject: Re: Felarya TV Tropes Article Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:22 pm | |
| It wasn't that bad, was it? | |
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itsmeyouidiot Marauder of the deep jungle
Posts : 385 Join date : 2009-07-27 Age : 31 Location : The Pit
| Subject: Re: Felarya TV Tropes Article Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:24 pm | |
| - /Fish/ wrote:
- Deleted because this is a terrible idea, poorly executed. You even got information about Felarya wrong.
Terrible. Go sit in a corner and think about what you've done. Uh, no. I actually did do some research. Maybe I got one thing wrong, but that is far, far, far, far from any reason to blank a page. That's the sort of thing that would get you IP banned from TV Tropes. | |
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FalconJudge Hero
Posts : 1040 Join date : 2008-11-07 Age : 32 Location : Work
| Subject: Re: Felarya TV Tropes Article Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:29 pm | |
| What did he get wrong...? | |
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itsmeyouidiot Marauder of the deep jungle
Posts : 385 Join date : 2009-07-27 Age : 31 Location : The Pit
| Subject: Re: Felarya TV Tropes Article Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:31 pm | |
| - FalconJudge wrote:
- What did he get wrong...?
What really bugs me is that /Fish/ corrected my mistake... And then deleted the article. Deleting articles without cut-listing them is considered the biggest sin in the entire wiki, and will usually earn you an IP ban. | |
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/Fish/ Hero
Posts : 1301 Join date : 2008-05-04 Age : 33 Location : The Stream of Consciousness
| Subject: Re: Felarya TV Tropes Article Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:59 pm | |
| Making a tropes page about Felarya does not seem like a good idea. You've been here for a little while, while others haven't had any say in this decision to make a page about it there.
There was incorrect information, some of which I corrected. If you read the wiki, you'd know that harpies mate with other humanoids, not with animals.
Saying 'Author Appeal: Quite obvious, since it's pretty much about voreaphilia.' is not flattering at all and does not reflect on the current state of the world.
It is a page that can be edited by anyone. This means people outside of the community can add whatever they want to it.
It is more than likely going to attract negative attention.
Why not instead of saying "ololol I made a tropes page about Felarya" you could have said "I'm thinking about it, here is my reasoning and why don't we work out what should be in it before posting anything there." | |
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itsmeyouidiot Marauder of the deep jungle
Posts : 385 Join date : 2009-07-27 Age : 31 Location : The Pit
| Subject: Re: Felarya TV Tropes Article Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:05 pm | |
| - /Fish/ wrote:
- You could have said "I'm thinking about it, here is my reasoning and why don't we work out what should be in it before posting anything there."
That's funny, because I remember doing just that in this thread. And do you know what happened? No one responded. | |
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rcs619 Felarya cartographer
Posts : 1589 Join date : 2008-04-07 Age : 36
| Subject: Re: Felarya TV Tropes Article Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:12 pm | |
| - itsmeyouidiot wrote:
- /Fish/ wrote:
- You could have said "I'm thinking about it, here is my reasoning and why don't we work out what should be in it before posting anything there."
That's funny, because I remember doing just that in this thread. And do you know what happened?
No one responded. That is probably a sign that there wasn't enough intrest in it. If you want to start a tropes thread, that is probably fine. Link to tropes pages and come up with stuff here on the forum (if Fish agrees, of course), but we do not need a page on TV Tropes. It is like when someone suggested making a Felarya Encyclopedia Dramatica page. It will not end well, and at best will attract negative attention. At worst, it will attract trolls to both Karbo's DA page and to the Forum itself. Also, Fish is a moderator on this site, and you should respect that some. He's offering his point of view as both a moderator and a senior member in this community. You should listen. | |
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itsmeyouidiot Marauder of the deep jungle
Posts : 385 Join date : 2009-07-27 Age : 31 Location : The Pit
| Subject: Re: Felarya TV Tropes Article Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:15 pm | |
| - rcs619 wrote:
- Link to tropes pages and come up with stuff (if Fish agrees, of course), but we do not need a page on TV Tropes. It is like when someone suggested making a Felarya Encyclopedia Dramatica page. It will not end well, and at best will attract negative attention.
Uh, no. If you've ever been a part of the TV Tropes community like I have, you'd know that there really aren't that many trolls on the wiki. It's not Encyclopedia Dramatica. There is no such thing as notability on TV Tropes, and I would honestly like to see more mention of one of my favorite independent works on TV Tropes. I really don't mean to be disrespectful or anything, but I worked on that page and I want to let it stay alive. | |
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FalconJudge Hero
Posts : 1040 Join date : 2008-11-07 Age : 32 Location : Work
| Subject: Re: Felarya TV Tropes Article Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:37 pm | |
| It's true that there aren't that many trolls on Tvtropes, but don't assume that fish has no idea what he's doing... though deleting the whole thing was quite harsh, in my opinion.
And your comments can be construed as slightly kiddish in tone, near the beginning. | |
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rcs619 Felarya cartographer
Posts : 1589 Join date : 2008-04-07 Age : 36
| Subject: Re: Felarya TV Tropes Article Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:38 pm | |
| - itsmeyouidiot wrote:
- rcs619 wrote:
- Link to tropes pages and come up with stuff (if Fish agrees, of course), but we do not need a page on TV Tropes. It is like when someone suggested making a Felarya Encyclopedia Dramatica page. It will not end well, and at best will attract negative attention.
Uh, no. If you've ever been a part of the TV Tropes community like I have, you'd know that there really aren't that many trolls on the wiki. It's not Encyclopedia Dramatica. There is no such thing as notability on TV Tropes, and I would honestly like to see more mention of one of my favorite independent works on TV Tropes.
I really don't mean to be disrespectful or anything, but I worked on that page and I want to let it stay alive. Alright, Fish and I have been talking. We aren't trying to be evil mods and crush your dreams, and despite your stubbornness (and somewhat rude tone early on with Fish), you DID edit the offensive portions of that article. That shows some desire to cooperate. We decided that you can keep the TV Trope thing up, as long as it does no harm. If we start to get an influx of trolls though, it might need to be taken down. Just keep that in mind. On a personal note, if you're hoping to spread the word about Felarya, I think you're going to be disappointed. Most people are going to look at this and see a porn/hentai fetish world...no matter what you tell them. This is the kind of thing you usually avoid trying to attract too much attention to. Either way, you can keep your article, but we will be keeping an eye on it too, and will probably occaisonally pipe in with advice to alter it for the better of the community. Just be responsible with this thing, and don't go giving us a bad name or something. | |
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itsmeyouidiot Marauder of the deep jungle
Posts : 385 Join date : 2009-07-27 Age : 31 Location : The Pit
| Subject: Re: Felarya TV Tropes Article Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:42 pm | |
| Okay then. I'm really sorry.
It's probably not going to get much attention anyway. According to statistics, only one page on TVTropes links to it (the link was created before the article), and it doesn't appear on the web original index. You'd have to really search for it to find it.
Besides, TV Tropes has plenty of "weird hentai/fetish things" and they barely get any attention at all compared to everything else. | |
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rcs619 Felarya cartographer
Posts : 1589 Join date : 2008-04-07 Age : 36
| Subject: Re: Felarya TV Tropes Article Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:45 pm | |
| - itsmeyouidiot wrote:
- Okay then. I'm really sorry.
It's probably not going to get much attention anyway. According to statistics, only one page on TVTropes links to it (the link was created before the article), and it doesn't appear on the web original index. You'd have to really search for it to find it.
Besides, TV Tropes has plenty of "weird hentai/fetish things" and they barely get any attention at all compared to everything else. No worries. You're going to get the chance to give this thing a try. Fish and I just worry because we really like this community. Just, next time you decide to do something like this, maybe make a thread with a poll or something instead of just jumping headlong into it like you did. No harm no foul though. As long as your article doesn't cause any problems, it'll all be fine ^^ | |
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Sillysausage Seasoned adventurer
Posts : 141 Join date : 2009-07-01 Age : 32 Location : Ausfailia
| Subject: Re: Felarya TV Tropes Article Tue Oct 13, 2009 11:24 pm | |
| Eh, I know I'm late for the party here, but I really question as to whether Felarya is popular/well-known enough to deserve an article, in addition to the problems voiced earlier by others. There are pages there on much more well-known stuff which are either much smaller or completely absent. To me, this seems pretty much the same as writing a Wikipedia article about yourself, or your dog, or anything else that just isn't relevant.
Not to mention that having really large links to where you can buy the book makes it look like a goddamn advertisment. All in all, this article makes me feel embarrassed just looking at it. | |
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Pendragon Grand Mecha Enthusiast
Posts : 3229 Join date : 2007-12-09
| Subject: Re: Felarya TV Tropes Article Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:04 am | |
| Aw damnit. Now I'm gonna be up all night looking at all the related tropes. | |
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itsmeyouidiot Marauder of the deep jungle
Posts : 385 Join date : 2009-07-27 Age : 31 Location : The Pit
| Subject: Re: Felarya TV Tropes Article Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:36 am | |
| - Sillysausage wrote:
Not to mention that having really large links to where you can buy the book makes it look like a goddamn advertisment. All in all, this article makes me feel embarrassed just looking at it. It's customary to link to the work if it's available online. | |
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French snack Moderator
Posts : 1192 Join date : 2009-04-05 Location : in Milly's stomach. Care to join me?
| Subject: Re: Felarya TV Tropes Article Wed Oct 14, 2009 6:49 am | |
| Hmmm... Not sure I agree with this one: - Quote :
Most of the Humans that visit Felarya are portrayed as bad Of course some are portrayed as bad - but "most"? I don't think so. | |
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itsmeyouidiot Marauder of the deep jungle
Posts : 385 Join date : 2009-07-27 Age : 31 Location : The Pit
| Subject: Re: Felarya TV Tropes Article Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:32 am | |
| Go ahead and change it if you feel like it. It's a wiki, after all. | |
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itsmeyouidiot Marauder of the deep jungle
Posts : 385 Join date : 2009-07-27 Age : 31 Location : The Pit
| Subject: Re: Felarya TV Tropes Article Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:00 am | |
| Hmm... Now that Karbo's back, I'm kinda wondering what he's going to think. I'm kinda scared he'll disapprove. | |
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FalconJudge Hero
Posts : 1040 Join date : 2008-11-07 Age : 32 Location : Work
| Subject: Re: Felarya TV Tropes Article Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:36 pm | |
| Karbo can be a little less mean than the rest of us, so even if he does, he won't make you feel like crap for doing it. | |
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melancholy-melody13 Temple scourge
Posts : 618 Join date : 2007-12-09 Age : 32 Location : Under your bed
| Subject: Re: Felarya TV Tropes Article Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:09 pm | |
| whoever is writing this crap for TVtropes
Stop, just stop. Felarya shouldnt be there and if it WERE to go on there it should be talked over alot more and with more people. Though I still don't think it SHOULD be there to begin with.
CRISIS being the most attractive person in felarya? thats just purely biased BS.
Nothing about that article doesn't make me facepalm or headdesk, nothing. | |
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/Fish/ Hero
Posts : 1301 Join date : 2008-05-04 Age : 33 Location : The Stream of Consciousness
| Subject: Re: Felarya TV Tropes Article Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:41 pm | |
| I'm just going to pipe in here and let you know that I have made some edits, mostly regarding the stance on characters in the article... Which did seem quite biased. I also edited some of the manga explanation, as well as the section of 'author appeal' to be more correct. | |
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Sillysausage Seasoned adventurer
Posts : 141 Join date : 2009-07-01 Age : 32 Location : Ausfailia
| Subject: Re: Felarya TV Tropes Article Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:07 am | |
| Valiant effort Fish, but it is a lost cause. The only people who probably even know this page exists are on this forum, and we all seem to hate it. "The main focus is vore, and the main character, Crisis, is the most attractive character in Felarya, but she doesn't know it yet." If Crisis was the most attractive person ON AN ENTIRE PLANET she would be Queen Mary Sue. Good thing she isn't. "there are only three predator species males because the creator of Felarya does not like the potential of any male vore occuring. Which is fine with the community because no one likes male vore."I am going to draw a vore comic with this fellow just to spite you. | |
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