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Hmm. I wonder if a Ghost Trap would work on a Storm Sprite. Paging Dr. Spengler.

TheQuantumMechanic wrote:

Hmm. I wonder if a Ghost Trap would work on a Storm Sprite. Paging Dr. Spengler.

Yup. Actually, the question is, what would be able to beat a ghost trap?

And if the Ghostbusters stand beyond a Felarya-*realm connection and aim inside Felarya to cross the streams, a) Nemyra probably can't see beyond her realm what's about to happen, and b) universe go boom.

Raveolution wrote:

TheQuantumMechanic wrote:

Hmm. I wonder if a Ghost Trap would work on a Storm Sprite. Paging Dr. Spengler.

Yup. Actually, the question is, what would be able to beat a ghost trap?

Hard to say, since unlike the Proton Packs, they never really elaborated on the pseudo-science behind the Ghost Traps. If I had to guess, I'd suggest as a possible answer, "Being very large, very solid, and stepping on one."

Aside from that, while would remain useful in lots of situations, it becomes somewhat less so if you don't have a plan for what to do with the angry spirit/fairy/demon/whatever you trapped. If you're on Felarya instead of Earth, and don't have that large "vault" Ecto Containment unit... you'd better be able to come up with a plan before the Trap runs out of juice.

Raveolution wrote:

And if the Ghostbusters stand beyond a Felarya-*realm connection and aim inside Felarya to cross the streams, a) Nemyra probably can't see beyond her realm what's about to happen, and b) universe go boom.

"Okay, guys, this is it."
"It? What is it?"
"The end of the world as we know it."
"Damn, again? Didn't we go through this already?"
"Nobody ever said originality was a required trait for Godlike beings."
"Alright, so what's the plan, then? I bet it's 'Cross the Streams'."
"Don't be ridiculous, Peter. First of all, we need to remain in our own world, preferably living. Kind of hard to do if we destroy the world as we know it instead of her."
"Okay. Makes sense, I guess."
"... So, we fire through the portal, and cross the streams on the other side of it."
"Hah! You owe me fifty bucks, Ray."
"Maaaaaaaaaan."

Malahite wrote:

Some Deus Ex biomods would be hilarious on Felarya, especially if they read magic the same as technological attacks. For example, 200m Aggressive Defensive System. Faerie readies the most powerful fireball it can, prepares to throw it at the humanoid... and has it blow up in its own face.

That would be absolutely hilarious against the Crimson Maidens.

A Giga Slave ought to do the trick. One casting, and BOOM!

MegaDan5 wrote:

A Giga Slave ought to do the trick. One casting, and BOOM!

Use it against the ADS Biomoded man, it'll blow up before hitting him. Unless it has a blast radius around the 80+ Meter point.

Malahite wrote:

MegaDan5 wrote:

A Giga Slave ought to do the trick. One casting, and BOOM!

Use it against the ADS Biomoded man, it'll blow up before hitting him. Unless it has a blast radius around the 80+ Meter point.

To put it bluntly, the Giga Slave spell is extremely powerful. If you lose control of it, you can kiss the entire world your on goodbye.

MegaDan5 wrote:

To put it bluntly, the Giga Slave spell is extremely powerful. If you lose control of it, you can kiss the entire world your on goodbye.

To be honest, the same applies to pretty much any epic-level magic, psychic ability, or technology. Doesn't mean they lack serious flaws which can be exploited. Giga Slave has a number of them, of which losing control is only one.

We could send in an Armored Core. Those things are like one-man armies.

MegaDan5 wrote:

We could send in an Armored Core. Those things are like one-man armies.

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Oh, man. I could not agree more, even if I wanted to. You have made my day. Seriously.

One Word: Ideon

MegaDan5 wrote:

We could send in an Armored Core. Those things are like one-man armies.

The problem with an AC is the same with any other "Real Robot"-style mecha; they can handle mundane threats fine as long as they're operating at full capacity. And that's pretty much it. Against heavily magical opponents, they're not nearly as useful; they're just out of their element. Once they take enough damage to be impaired (and it will happen eventually), they become much less useful. If they actually lose a limb, their combat effectiveness drops sharply- losing one or both legs can be enough to render some mecha all but useless.

There's also the matter of ammo, refueling, and maintenance; doesn't matter if your mecha is using nothing but energy weapons and has a fusion reactor powering it, you're still going to need to have a wrenchmonkey give it a once-over pretty much every time you take it out for a spin. A double-over if it actually engaged an enemy; that is, unless you don't care about its joints locking up suddenly, bolts corroding through and imporant pieces falling off unexpectedly, weapons malfunctions, etc.

No "Real"-style mecha is a one-man army; there's a whole bunch of stuff that goes on in the garage to ensure that the pilot can pull off his "one-man show". Without that kind of logistical support, a mecha is a pretty useless thing to have in Felarya. You'll have fun stomping around until you run out of ammo, out of gas, out of armor, and/or out of internal structure.

The Armored Core games might gloss over logistics in favor of presenting ACs as unstoppable engines of destruction, but I assure you that it's no less vital because of that.

But when you have a mechanic who can get you all those materials, then it becomes a one man army once more.

I was thinking along the lines of the IBIS unit from the Silent Line Armored Core game. A fully autonomous killing machine with an advanced AI of its own.

Pendragon wrote:

But when you have a mechanic who can get you all those materials, then it becomes a one man army once more.

This is true, within certain bounds. A support infrastructure (a supply chain, basically) on Felarya would be a difficult thing to manage; the best method would be to funnel materials from off-world directly into your base by a controlled gate. Otherwise, you're pretty much left with different types of scavenging. Mining Felarya for resources is possible, but a dangerous, dangerous thing to do. And not something "a" mechanic is going to be able to do.

Without major support (and everything that entails) in place, trying to run around in an Armored Core is pointless. I guess it's not too bad if you can buy missiles, ammo, and spare parts from Negav, but jury rigging only takes you so far... unless you're Han Solo.

Ironically, I can't think of any situation where having a Super Robot wouldn't be better than having an Armored Core... the only downside (it's a big one) is that the Guardians probably wouldn't care much about someone cruising around in an AC, whereas most Super Robots and their pilots would immediately become a problem to be addressed.

MegaDan5 wrote:

I was thinking along the lines of the IBIS unit from the Silent Line Armored Core game. A fully autonomous killing machine with an advanced AI of its own.

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GLaDOS also requests a copy. ... Well, six copies.

Have the Ing from Metroid Prime 2 as well as the Zebesian Space Pirates come in.

the zebasian space pirates would do no good in felarya,they are roughly human sized.and in almost every game they use physical combat.therefore the only space pirate that would do any good is ridley but i doubt he would help you .Well there is always kraid but he only speaks zebasian so he would probably just eat you.

You forgot about Ridley.

Daimo wrote:

One Word: Ideon

Oh man, he sneezes and it's over. The Ideon Gun = Guardian buster.

Now how about a shrunken-down Gunbuster. In name-your-pred's stomach. Name that pred, it doesn't matter - the last three words she ever hears is "Double Buster... COLLIDER!" Not even a storm sprite with flash digestion could survive that one...

Save this for if caught and you'll get let go quickly.

*watches video* Yeah... that could do it. I need to get/jerry-rig one!

ZionAtriedes wrote:

*watches video* Yeah... that could do it. I need to get/jerry-rig one!

Another video shows the WASP knife to have five 'shots' to it. Jab and stab, repeatably, and eventually you'd either critically injure the target or get it to leave you be.

A jab to the eye would be cruelty to most preds.

I wouldn't mind getting one of those...

Still, I hold a grudge against it for brutally murdering innocent melons!

I'm wondering... what would it take to blanket a large section of Felarya with a total anti-magic field for, say, a month?