What is the best tactical and strategic offense against...

Human:
There are 7,296,324 cataloged ways to exterminate a human. Humans are the most frail beings in the face of this universe, a natural plaque. They have few adaptions to allow them to survive, no claws, weak jaws, no fur, ect. Humans modify their environment in order to survive. Take a human out of his or her respective habitat and they are ultimately doomed. Any human lost or bewildered is an easy target. I recomend stealth and a silent kill. If removal of target from it's natural enclosure or insertion is impossible, go for a longrange headshot. 632 grams of pure motherfucking diplomacy, Jolly Roger style, that's called beautiful.

Naga:
Naga are more vicious and hardened as opposed to humans, much more. The easiest way to kill a Naga is to trap it. Granted, you can have a hard time gitting it cornered or caged, that's why you let it trap itself. Stalk it in ths shadows, wait till it rests, then move in with either Military grade explosives (C-4 or Remote Claymores) or some blasting material (TNT). The latter of the two isn't as effective, so bring lots. Put the explosives around the sleeping Naga's head or in its mouth (if possible without waking it, take no chances), then retreat to minimum safe distance and blow that bastard back to hell.

Fairy:
These little buggers can be a real problem. They are a little more cunning then Nagas and can use some varrious forms of magic. I am too tired right now, it's 2400 hours, so i'll go into detail tomorrow after airsoft, if i'm still awake then, and type more. To make things easy, just ICBM all these bitches, every last one of them, from nagas to succubi, anyone who pisses you off, nuke their asses!

Delicious Kevin wrote:

Fairy:

I still say filling the air with high volumes of high-velocity depleted uranium rounds and stinger missiles is a surefire way to deal with Fairy problems. It also helps when attempting to paint a field red.

Malahite wrote:

Delicious Kevin wrote:

Fairy:

I still say filling the air with high volumes of high-velocity depleted uranium rounds and stinger missiles is a surefire way to deal with Fairy problems. It also helps when attempting to paint a field red.

Fairies? Stinger missiles rock.

Then there's Opal Mingos.

It's especially funny when you lure them at you by walking around with a net in hand going "Gee, I hope nothing bad happens to me while I'm HUNTING FAIRIES WITH THIS NET!!!" and some big fairy grabs you and you open a cage with the little birdie in it.

That way you can ensure the last thing they ever hear is, "Say hello to my little friend!"

Delicious Kevin wrote:

Human:
There are 7,296,324 cataloged ways to exterminate a human. Humans are the most frail beings in the face of this universe, a natural plaque. They have few adaptions to allow them to survive, no claws, weak jaws, no fur, ect. Humans modify their environment in order to survive. Take a human out of his or her respective habitat and they are ultimately doomed. Any human lost or bewildered is an easy target. I recomend stealth and a silent kill. If removal of target from it's natural enclosure or insertion is impossible, go for a longrange headshot. 632 grams of pure motherfucking diplomacy, Jolly Roger style, that's called beautiful.

You completely misunderstand the human race. We are very adaptative creatures and will adapt to be able to live in the extremes. The adaptations that help humans survive are all mental and not physical. Using technology will trump any anatomic adaptaion. that is what made humans the dominit sentinet species on this planet.

Mentalguy wrote:

Delicious Kevin wrote:

Human:
There are 7,296,324 cataloged ways to exterminate a human. Humans are the most frail beings in the face of this universe, a natural plaque. They have few adaptions to allow them to survive, no claws, weak jaws, no fur, ect. Humans modify their environment in order to survive. Take a human out of his or her respective habitat and they are ultimately doomed. Any human lost or bewildered is an easy target. I recomend stealth and a silent kill. If removal of target from it's natural enclosure or insertion is impossible, go for a longrange headshot. 632 grams of pure motherfucking diplomacy, Jolly Roger style, that's called beautiful.

You completely misunderstand the human race. We are very adaptative creatures and will adapt to be able to live in the extremes. The adaptations that help humans survive are all mental and not physical. Using technology will trump any anatomic adaptaion. that is what made humans the dominit sentinet species on this planet.

Kevin's rihgt, wer are weak, an dbeacause we are weak he fear our environment, adn what we fear we destroy.

Animals need to rely on evolution over a long period to survive in new environments effectively. Humans can just choose to circumvent change and modify the environment for ourselves. We don't "fear" the environment, we fear an environment we cannot change.

Humanity is really only 'weak' in that it has a poorer physical statline than many of the Felaryan beasties (Except potentially Giants, which seem to be just humans raised in size and modified proportionately). We're as smart as Predator's on average (Even if fics tend to portray one or the other as idiots), we have a great technological advantage (Which even in worlds of magic means something), we can record history over prolonged periods and learn from such (Which so far only Faeries, specific Dridders, and a few other species have bothered to do), etc.

Mentalguy wrote:

You completely misunderstand the human race. We are very adaptative creatures and will adapt to be able to live in the extremes. The adaptations that help humans survive are all mental and not physical. Using technology will trump any anatomic adaptaion. that is what made humans the dominit sentinet species on this planet.

The reason why the humans is the dominant specie it's just because they don't have natural predators which allow them to proliferate.

Mentalguy wrote:

Delicious Kevin wrote:

Human:
There are 7,296,324 cataloged ways to exterminate a human. Humans are the most frail beings in the face of this universe, a natural plaque. They have few adaptions to allow them to survive, no claws, weak jaws, no fur, ect. Humans modify their environment in order to survive. Take a human out of his or her respective habitat and they are ultimately doomed. Any human lost or bewildered is an easy target. I recomend stealth and a silent kill. If removal of target from it's natural enclosure or insertion is impossible, go for a longrange headshot. 632 grams of pure motherfucking diplomacy, Jolly Roger style, that's called beautiful.

You completely misunderstand the human race. We are very adaptative creatures and will adapt to be able to live in the extremes. The adaptations that help humans survive are all mental and not physical. Using technology will trump any anatomic adaptaion. that is what made humans the dominit sentinet species on this planet.

I think that post refers to a human individual vs Felarya. One person lost in Felarya = dinner. Although some individual humans can surpass that, of course, most won't survive all alone.

You'd have to be one heck of a human to survive, say, Vivian on a dark magic rampage. Or even a group of humans.

We do tend to re-shape environments to suit us, that's true, but then look at the Delurans...

I think perhaps we should drop this topic now, while it's still on good terms. If we keep this up, it will quickly devolve into a "Human / Predator" debate (Funny, it usually tends to be Capitalism v Communism, or Tank v Mech), and not the original topic.

Hm, would it be possible for anyone to make a spell / technical device that fries the Synapses of the target creature?

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Animals need to rely on evolution over a long period to survive in new environments effectively.

Not really, an animals can adapt very well to an unknow environnment if it finds three things:
-food
-water
-mate to reproduce.
That's why you can find some species of plants and animals in a different environment than their natural environnment.

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Humans can just choose to circumvent change and modify the environment for ourselves. We don't "fear" the environment, we fear an environment we cannot change.

It's a proof the human can't adapt because they need to change their environment to survive.

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we have a great technological advantage

I have some doubt, the technology can be assimilated by the sentient predator. And the fact we tend to rely on the technology tend to make humans stupid.

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we can record history over prolonged periods and learn from such

But It doesn't prevent to do the same mistake twice, because history repeat itself.

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The reason why the humans is the dominant specie
it's just because they don't have natural predators which allow them to
proliferate.

No.
Cave bears, smiladon, great cats of all sorts, giant falcons, the occasional snake or crocodile, even wolves at one point.

ALL of these creatures once preyed on humans regularly. It wasn't until humans fought back with overwhelming success that these animals were either A. taught that humanity was something to be feared or B. Went extinct.

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Not really, an animals can adapt very well to an unknow environnment if it finds three things:
-food
-water
-mate to reproduce.
That's why you can find some species of plants and animals in a different environment than their natural environnment.

You can find some animals in an unnatural environment because they haven't had time to evolve.
Give them a few more hundred years and their descendants will more than likely be somewhat different.

A domestic dog can find food, water and mates in the Amazon rainforest. But don't even try to tell me that a large group of domestic dogs will be able to survive there.

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It's a proof the human can't adapt because they need to change their environment to survive.

Humans adapt BY changing our environment. That's just the way we do it.
Humans evolved in the first place, so there's no reason to believe we can't evolve again if the situation warrents it.

I'm not gonna pretend Felarya's not a bit harder to adapt to, but that's not the issue. Like any other animal, humans can and will adapt to it. Unless you would like to try and convince me that Negav was built by dolphins.

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No.
Cave bears, smiladon, great cats of all sorts, giant falcons, the occasional snake or crocodile, even wolves at one point.

ALL of these creatures once preyed on humans regularly. It wasn't until humans fought back with overwhelming success that these animals were either A. taught that humanity was something to be feared or B. Went extinct.

The humans were not their main source food , when a humans when kill by a predator it was very rare or an accident, in clear the human was in the bad place at the bad time.

Even if they preyed humans, was it enough to be a serious threat to the humans. No why? They died and the humans are still here.

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A domestic dog can find food, water and mates in the Amazon rainforest. But don't even try to tell me that a large group of domestic dogs will be able to survive there.

Yes they can, if you know the case of the wandering dogs and due to the human activites their number increases constantly.

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The humans were not their main source food ,
when a humans when kill by a predator it was very rare or an accident,
in clear the human was in the bad place at the bad time.

No, NOW humans aren't their main source of food. Before humanity conquered the planet, lots of predators actively hunted human prey.

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Even if they preyed humans, was it enough to be a serious threat to the humans. No why? They died and the humans are still here.

... Yes. Now, WHY are they dead? We killed them.

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Yes they can, if you know the case of the wandering dogs and due to the human activites their number increases constantly.

A few lucky individuals might be able to survive, but as a species, domestic dogs couldn't possibly survive in the jungle. They're too ill-suited for the environment. They would either evolve or go extinct.

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I have some doubt, the technology can be assimilated by the sentient predator. And the fact we tend to rely on the technology tend to make humans stupid.

1) It takes time and multiple examples to even reverse engineer close-on-tech-tree objects. Medieval / Early Renaissance (At best) Predators would, even with genius', take several decades (If not centuries) to replicate modern objects, let alone futuristic stuff that works even better against Predators.

2) How does technology make us stupid?

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The humans were not their main source food , when a humans when kill by a predator it was very rare or an accident, in clear the human was in the bad place at the bad time.

Actually, GREG has this right. Humans were killed to feed on. It wasn't until we fought back and became cost-inefficient for Predators to (And often killed those who attempted to) eat us that most deaths were 'unintentional' (See: Defense).

Again, we may want to drop this or put it in another thread.

Attacking Elementals is one of the trickiest of all.

Elemental Intelligences range from animalistic (Which, while easy to mislead, could fight viciously if cornered) to genius (Something to be expected for something that can literally live multiple lives).

One of the first things one must figure out before attacking is which category the elemental falls in. This is itself a difficult thing to do, as any competent being can fake being feral for a few moments enough to mislead something into a false imaging of them.

((Will Finish more later))

Malahite wrote:

1) It takes time and multiple examples to even reverse engineer close-on-tech-tree objects. Medieval / Early Renaissance (At best) Predators would, even with genius', take several decades (If not centuries) to replicate modern objects, let alone futuristic stuff that works even better against Predators.

If the predator know how your technology work it will find a way to counter it. In general when your opponent has the advantage of the technology, you search a way to steal it.

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2) How does technology make us stupid?

When you look the cause of many accident which happen, you will be surprise

Wow, my intention wasn't to start a "Humans are weak sons of bitches" discussion, so I feel the need to appologize. Humans are weak in some ways but strong in others.

I will say though that we are NOT the top of the food chain. We are, at most, equal to all other animals, or lower. You can not deny this, and if you do then you have much thinking ahead of you. No one is stronger then another, and if you think you are, then you are arrogant. We have not bettered this world, we have polluted and destroyed it; therefore, we do not deserve anything we have, nomatter who was the noble inventor or discoverer who made or found it. We are not the masters of the universe, but nor are we the shit of it. We are simple. We are fallible. We are merely mortals, humans, nothing more, nothing less. But in all essence, we are not strong, not emotionally, physically, or even mentally. Inorder to be strong, you need to train yourself, mind body, and soul. Humans are not strong, soldiers, those who fight for what they want or believe in (either something material, abstract, or personal [Like bettering your mind, body, and/or soul]) are strong, but the human race in general, is not.

Now this is begining to get a little annoying. If in know people, few will give up unless they get the last word. So, let's just drop the topic and get back on track.

Mermaid:
Obliterate the watersource, either drain it, toxify it, or ignite it with napalm or oil, completely covering the surface so the mermaid will no longer be hazardous to those above the surface.
((Wouldn't it be a cool addition to Felarya to have a pond, covered in flames?))

Angel:
Heart or headshot with a .40 to a .50 BMG weapon. High explosives or incindary device. Removal of the wings, head or heart by any means nessicary.

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If the predator know how your technology work it
will find a way to counter it. In general when your opponent has the
advantage of the technology, you search a way to steal it.

.... You just completely ignored what he just said.

How does a feral being figure out how a nuclear-powered killozap laser pistol works? It doesn't.

In order to learn how such a thing works, you need to tinker with it for months, years even. For a feral jungle creature, it takes even longer. If a flying saucer crashed in the middle of a group of cavemen, do you think they'd be able to reverse engineer it and use its powers to halt an invasion of similar aliens who created the tech in the first place?

Somehow the words "hell no" just don't quite seem to say it all.

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When you look the cause of many accident which happen, you will be surprise

Wrong-o. Technology simply broadens the list of elements in one's life. Yes, it can cause accidents but it also prevents them. It does NOT make people stupid.

Technology makes you very stupid as soon as you start to depend on it.

And let's DROP THE SUBJECT.

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And let's DROP THE SUBJECT.

Dropping an issue without resolving it only preserves the problem.

Ok, I"ll make a thread for it then, so this one can stay on topic.

GREGOLE wrote:

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And let's DROP THE SUBJECT.

Dropping an issue without resolving it only preserves the problem.

um this depends what you mean by "resolving"...

Karbo wrote:

GREGOLE wrote:

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And let's DROP THE SUBJECT.

Dropping an issue without resolving it only preserves the problem.

um this depends what you mean by "resolving"...

My definition:
resolving = any outcome that does not end in, say, a flame war that would get a certain thread closed!

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My definition:
resolving = any outcome that does not end in, say, a flame war that would get a certain thread closed!

That was more or less what I was thinking too.

But this has been taken into another thread, so hopefully a fresh start'll help the issue work itself out.

I almost totally forgot... and I'm a huge Starcraft player, too!!!

The PROTOSS.

Can you imagine Felarya connecting to Aiur? What a disaster. Especially for someone like Katrika who would be right there waiting.

Sure, they're not godmods because any one Protoss unit, head-on, would be swatted into oblivion by a giant naga's tail, but I don't see any defense at all against psionic abilities in Felarya. Not one iota. The Protoss are major league psi adepts.

A Dark Archon could turn a Negative Hydra avatar against itself, or anyone else for that matter, and they have the ability to turn your energy (probably magic mana as well) against you, as in the more energy you have, the more damage it is turned to do against you. Dragoons would be the utter bane of everyone.