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PostSubject: Can humans and elves mate with each other?   Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:05 am

This has been on my brain for quite a while, but now I'm really curious. It's fairly common in fantasy and some sci-fi too for humans to be able to mate with another sapient race and create a hybrid offspring. For example, the child of a human and an elf would be a half-elf. What about Felarya? Can humans mate with elves and create a hybrid offspring? Can they do the same with other races, or are they just not compatible with those?

Speaking of half-elves, in case they do happen, can they freely enter the Elven District, or do they need to get a pass like the other races because they're not elven enough?
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PostSubject: Re: Can humans and elves mate with each other?   Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:08 am

Elves and fairies can get knocked up by us round ears
the fae.
it was in the wiki, I belive under humans?
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PostSubject: Re: Can humans and elves mate with each other?   Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:27 am

No, it doesn't. Most of the entry for humans is spent detailing the different cultures like the Delurans and such.
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PostSubject: Re: Can humans and elves mate with each other?   Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:55 am

Karbo's never definitively answered that particular question ( he's not a scientist ), or ones like it, to my knowledge. The wiki does support cross breeding between species ( particularly with fairies ) but humans aren't called out.

The forums, on the other hand...

http://felarya.forumotion.com/t3091-humans-getting-lewd-with-other-human-sized-species

http://felarya.forumotion.com/t2349-monogendered-races-procreation

http://felarya.forumotion.com/t1595-sex-with-harpies

http://felarya.forumotion.com/t2397-felarya-and-sex-how-does-it-work

http://felarya.forumotion.com/t1063-cross-breeding

http://felarya.forumotion.com/t3325-the-thread-for-overthinking-felaryan-topics


Still, no canonisation has occurred with regards to humans and others. Just 'de facto' agreements.
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PostSubject: Re: Can humans and elves mate with each other?   Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:25 am

I think Karbo may have said that elves and fairies can reproduce with humans, and maybe with each other, but I think a proper answer would be nice just to put the topic to rest. At least, when it comes to humans.

Anyway, on the somewhat same subjects, how do you think hybrids humanoids like a half-elf would be seen in a place like Negav? We already know the relationship between humans and elves isn't the healthiest, so do you think there would be at least a fair amount of discrimination toward them from either sides?
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PostSubject: Re: Can humans and elves mate with each other?   Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:47 am

Considering that Elves already are similar to humana, I'd doubt a Half elf would face so much racial tension. Asides from slightly different eyes, possibly inherited pointed ears, and a tendency to be taller l, half fae wouldn't stick out so much. Unless they become self loa thing gits, I'd imagine it would be fairly easy to avoid the tension, unless they encounter a particularly obsessed human/elf who scrutinizes their appearance and notices.
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PostSubject: Re: Can humans and elves mate with each other?   Wed Feb 25, 2015 11:22 am

hhhat09 wrote:
Considering that Elves already are similar to humana, I'd doubt a Half elf would face so much racial tension. Asides from slightly different eyes, possibly inherited pointed ears, and a tendency to be taller l, half fae wouldn't stick out so much. Unless they become self loa thing gits, I'd imagine it would be fairly easy to avoid the tension, unless they encounter a particularly obsessed human/elf who scrutinizes their appearance and notices.

That might be true for the lower classes, but I suspect hybrids higher up in the social order might encounter discrimination because everyone in high society are more likely to know who their parents were.
So I would say human/elven hybrids are more likely to be found among the lower class.
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PostSubject: Re: Can humans and elves mate with each other?   Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:30 pm

If there is already prejudice for demi's that are pretty exotic (such as a naga or dridder) I'd imagine the human populous doesn't care about half elves as much (They have an elven district) half fae would be seen as a nuisance because of the already "You were made from a predators spawn, lets hope you don't catch what your mother has" More easy to shun, Which btw how does that work? Are we going to add this science of where they're actual hybrids or are we going to do it in a sense that The race is ultimately decided by one of the two parents. I'd imagine human,elves,and faeries would be a universal mix meanwhile ones like inu's or nekos would be pretty particular ex. Inu can have a child with an human or a elf, but a neko or a fairy is either very very rare or Not possible.But that's for another time and thread, it's been pointed out but we're talking about elves here,

So going back on track. That would depend on the elf themselves. As we know, we got our fantasy elves that are more attuned to nature and life. Then we got your space elves that given negav's contact with outsiders, can changed humans to form their own species (Space elves). Both can have kids just the latter seems a bit more logical in the sense of how it does it.

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PostSubject: Re: Can humans and elves mate with each other?   Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:51 am

I've always considered that interbreeding isn't possible. But that's just me.

If half-elves do exist, I assume they would be accepted for the most part in Negav's Elven District. It's not as though their mixed origins would be particularly visible… except perhaps through unappealingly stubby ears (by elven standards).

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PostSubject: Re: Can humans and elves mate with each other?   Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:13 am

Really? Considered that elves are usually cocky or innocencently prejudice in mingling with "misunderstood" or "lesser" races. Usually bringing themselves and each other to light (right or not) before others cause of their ninche of understanding things more bradly and quick precognition on certain things.

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PostSubject: Re: Can humans and elves mate with each other?   Thu Feb 26, 2015 3:38 pm

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I've always considered that interbreeding isn't possible. But that's just me.

If half-elves do exist, I assume they would be accepted for the most part in Negav's Elven District. It's not as though their mixed origins would be particularly visibleďż˝ except perhaps through unappealingly stubby ears (by elven standards).

I think that the Elven District would consist mostly of pure-blooded elves. I guess mixed-blooded can live there, but would be constantly looked down that they would be better off living somewhere else to avoid the racial pressure.
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PostSubject: Re: Can humans and elves mate with each other?   Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:46 am

Considering half-elves would probably be a lot less prideful than their pure-blooded counterparts, then I don't think they'd find the need to live in the Elven District anyway. Elves want that district in order to be separated from the "lesser beings", so if a half-elf lacks that sentiment, it's possible they wouldn't even want to live in there.

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PostSubject: Re: Can humans and elves mate with each other?   Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:54 am

Last I heard, there are three races, and only three, that can interbreed: humans, elves, and fairies. However, this hybrid offspring is as sterile as a mule so not really a new species. There are no quarter-elves for instance.
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PostSubject: Re: Can humans and elves mate with each other?   Fri Feb 27, 2015 1:48 pm

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ast I heard, there are three races, and only three, that can interbreed: humans, elves, and fairies. However, this hybrid offspring is as sterile as a mule so not really a new species. There are no quarter-elves for instance.

I understand the first part. but as for the sterilization (which i agree with what would happen) Care to reference or quote where you got that part of information, i don't remember seeing that as canon. So are you proposing that's how it could or should be?

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PostSubject: Re: Can humans and elves mate with each other?   Fri Feb 27, 2015 1:51 pm

Don't some species of hybrid animals remain perfectly fertile?
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PostSubject: Re: Can humans and elves mate with each other?   Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:50 pm

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I understand the first part. but as for the sterilization (which i agree with what would happen) Care to reference or quote where you got that part of information, i don't remember seeing that as canon. So are you proposing that's how it could or should be?

I heard that on the chatbox, I believe, when we were talking about Kortiki. However, I do think that this is how it should be, as otherwise we would get overpowered half-races. Human discipline with Fairy magic, even if weakened, would be game-breaking. Also, we would have lots and lots of woobies. XD

i never thought that half-races were a good idea, not even in D&D. Also, I have some lore related issues with it, but that's for another time. Not to mention the biological issues.
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PostSubject: Re: Can humans and elves mate with each other?   Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:07 pm

Lol yeah i somewhat agree. It would be easier to say that when the two intermix that the baby results in being one of the two races. Compatibility, which still wouldn't stop the prejudice by all means "You were born from a lowly human, your nothing like an elf." When in true retrospect It's more like they are but the dna was taken from the other to affect the over all appearance beside the obvious long ears, slim,tall, and sharp figure and such. Maybe some qualities such as dark or exotic skin variation or glowing eyes depending what the dominant parent trait is. But nothing to elaborate.

Though if there are half one, like scryangi infertile or something to where their fertility is super hard to accomplish.

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PostSubject: Re: Can humans and elves mate with each other?   Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:57 pm

I think we are overlooking that crossbreeding wouldn't be too widespread because there would need to be a sizable enough population of both races to make a half-breed child. Half-feys would be almost exclusive to Kortiki Town, while half-elves would be mostly found there and maybe in Negav. In fact, I think Kortiki Town would be where half-breeds are most common. There's no elven district there so they'd have to interact with other races more often, which opens the door for more intimate relationships with different races.
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PostSubject: Re: Can humans and elves mate with each other?   Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:18 pm

@Shady Knight.

Yes, I was planning on having many half-breeds in Kortiki, but no districts or something like that. I doubt fairies would have such a thing.
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PostSubject: Re: Can humans and elves mate with each other?   Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:11 pm

I assumed the genetic makeup of each creature was just too odd and distant to be capable of breeding.
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PostSubject: Re: Can humans and elves mate with each other?   Sat Feb 28, 2015 3:06 am

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I assumed the genetic makeup of each creature was just too odd and distant to be capable of breeding.

Yes, genetically it should not happen. However, given the magical / spiritual nature of Felarya, I see it more as a from of possession: just like how in our legends a demon or god can have half-breeds by having their essence seep into an unfertilized egg, like semen, so could you have babies with pure human DNA that are still for all intents and purposes half fairy / dragon / whatever.
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PostSubject: Re: Can humans and elves mate with each other?   Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:50 pm

I think for stuff like this we are left to more do as we please. Karbo has seemed to give us freedom with this in our stories and other work. I support full interbreeding for the most part.
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PostSubject: Re: Can humans and elves mate with each other?   Wed Mar 25, 2015 7:16 am

Well as i see it, mating between elves, humans and fairies is indeed possible with the halfbreed inheriting some traits of their mother and father to a variable extent.
For example a half-elf could have better natural proficiency at arcane arts and slightly pointed ears or maybe not, making them hard to distinguish from humans at all.
In case of interbreeding with fairies though, the offspring would generally inherit few fairy traits and almost never any fairy magic ( they would have to have wings to start with ).

For an half elf, accessing or living in the elven district could be tricky and would ultimately depend on how "elven" they look. Elves are not the most open of people ^^;
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