General Q and A

To answer your question properly, it really depends on the predator. Many predators have what's called the "predator sense", which allows them to detect their prey without seeing or smelling them. The distance from which detection is possible also varies depending on the predator. If the predator is giant, however, and does NOT have the predator sense, masking your looks and scent would make a considerable contribution to your chances of avoiding it. ^_^

...At least, that's my understanding of it. ^_^ I don't want to be assuming.

ah thank you Nyaha very much for the answer. I needed it for a story series call "300 days of hell" which i believe some on the forum have already read.

Hahah! ^.^ You're very welcome! Nyaha got to be helpful~ Nyaha got to be helpful~

Nyaha wrote:

To answer your question properly, it really depends on the predator. Many predators have what's called the "predator sense", which allows them to detect their prey without seeing or smelling them.

OBJECTION! Your Honor, this crucial piece of evidence contradicts the previous claim!

...Sorry. I had to do it. A-hem, anyways, the predator sense is limited to only a handful of species. In any case, the signature is only strong for very magical or very large beings, so non-mage humans would be hard to detect at long range and impossible to pinpoint even at short range. At best, the average pred with the sense would only know if they were getting "hotter" or "colder". By this time, any competent individuals could either escape, or prepare an attack with the proper weaponry and strategy.

However, I would not entirely discount the predator sense. It could still ruin an ambush, or give away your presence.

Zion the way you came in and said your peice was Hilarious , You've made my day.

ZionAtriedes wrote:

Nyaha wrote:

To answer your question properly, it really depends on the predator. Many predators have what's called the "predator sense", which allows them to detect their prey without seeing or smelling them.

OBJECTION! Your Honor, this crucial piece of evidence contradicts the previous claim!

...Sorry. I had to do it. A-hem, anyways, the predator sense is limited to only a handful of species. In any case, the signature is only strong for very magical or very large beings, so non-mage humans would be hard to detect at long range and impossible to pinpoint even at short range. At best, the average pred with the sense would only know if they were getting "hotter" or "colder". By this time, any competent individuals could either escape, or prepare an attack with the proper weaponry and strategy.

However, I would not entirely discount the predator sense. It could still ruin an ambush, or give away your presence.

Honestly. How do SO many people keep spreading this false information? This is the THIRD "All preds have predator sense" post I've seen in a WEEK.

Let me just spell this out clearly.

Not ALL giant predators have the "predator sense".

The only two species known to have it in any big numbers are NAGAS and FAIRIES.

For nagas, it is roughly the magical equivalent of a snake's heat sense. Fairies have it because they are so magically sensitive anyway, that sensing the magical fields of living things comes naturally. Out of the two of them, nagas have the more refined and accurate version of the sense.

The predator sense is NOT radar. It will not pin-point a human. It will just help the pred to realize "Hey, I think there's something around here".

Since it is the magical field of a person being sensed, mages show up brighter, and people will no magical skill whatsoever will be very dim and much harder to sense. Also, with training, a mage CAN learn to suppress his/her magical signature, making him/her much harder to sense in this way.

The only other species besides NAGAS and FAIRIES mentioned to have something similar to this sense were deerataurs (which are pretty uncommon) and a small handful of magically sensitive species. One can assume, that since fairies are highly magical and their version of the "predator sense" is still weaker and less accurate than a naga's...that deerataurs and the other rare cases would have even weaker versions of the "predator sense".

Honestly, for all intents and purposes, its exclusive to nagas and fairies. It isn't something that all preds have, nor was it meant to be.

luke112 wrote:

Hey I got a question, would a group of humans cammoflaging their senct and apperance make it hardder for a perd to find them or would it make no difference?

It will depend on the preds and its way of hunting. Some predator use scent to find their prey but it's not the only way of detection some prefers to ambush by staying hidden in a position and catching the prey when it is at range but this kind of predator use other way of detection as scent for example they can sense vibration or thermal or CO2 emission which make even if you dissimulate your odor and you are not visible they can detect you.

By camouflaging your scent and appearance you escape to certain type of predator which are mostly active hunter but you are still vulnerable to some more patient who prefer staying hidden and using trap or bait to ambush their prey.

I have to say I agree with theabove posters about this, (gwada, RCS and Zion). It is truly dependant on the predator in question (And yes, even those with the Predator Sense, which is really only a differently defined version of Spider-man's Spider Sense anyway...). It's true, most predators would rely on the 5 main senses anyways, as that determines the creature's perception of the environment around them. However, simply throwing the scent off will not work if your jumping about like a lunatic going "Hey, I'm here! EAT MEEEE!!!"

gwadahunter2222 wrote:

but this kind of predator use other way of detection as scent for example they can sense vibration or thermal or CO2 emission which make even if you dissimulate your odor and you are not visible they can detect you.

Vibration, I can understand... but I am not aware of any predator able to detect CO2. I could be wrong, as I admit that I haven't been keeping up much. Giant mosquito-hybrids, though, that'd be funny.

Believe it or not, scent is not really a replacement for vision, even among animals such a dogs. It's really a lot like how I described predator-sense: some animals can detect when a single, exact scent is getting stronger or weaker, and follow its "trail" (once again, playing "hot or cold") to where they can detect it with other senses... namely, sight or touch. It's not like they sniff and suddenly have a picture in their heads. That's silly. A pred using scentolocation, though, that'd be funny. She can be friends with the mosquito-hybrid.

Darkstorm "Zero Tolerance" Zero is correct: cloaking your scent is useless unless you're smart about it. Yee-HOW, there's an idea!

I have a question! If storm sprites need to recharge to stay healthy how long would it take them to recharge and how often would they need to recharge?

I guess it's just a fancy way of saying that they must periodically be in contact with electricity to get most of their sustenance.

There is something I'd need to know about Phantom Elves. Since they live in Sunfall Thicket, which is in perpetual night time, one could say that their eyes are used to low-light condition and that this is when their vision is their best. However, would they be able to see normally in daylight or bright light conditions without any protection, or would they be dazzled/blinded by the light?

Also, given that Shamshis live in night territory, would they also be able to see in actual darkness? Not sure how to explain it, but given that elves are very magic-oriented, I am assuming that extraordinary abilities such as this would happen among them.

To answer Sean's question, I assume it would just be like being in a dark cave for weeks on end. So long as there is SOME illumination, the elves won't be blinded by any outside light.

I've been wondering for some time now, it said on the wiki a dusk nymph was able to get into Negav safely and ate some of the people, if a dusk nymph could get into Negav then would that be true for darkness elementals as well or are the nymphs only able to get in because their half darkness elemental

Solomon wrote:

I've been wondering for some time now, it said on the wiki a dusk nymph was able to get into Negav safely and ate some of the people, if a dusk nymph could get into Negav then would that be true for darkness elementals as well or are the nymphs only able to get in because their half darkness elemental

Some thinks to consider.

- Dusk Nymphs are fairly uncommon in general. Also, they are not native to the Negav area. They tend to hang around the Evernight and other dark places. The only way a Dusk Nymph would reach Negav is if she happened to ride someone's shadow all the way there.

- Yes, Dusk Nymphs seem to be immune to the Isolon Eye's effect for some reason. It would still be VERY dangerous to hang around Negav too long. Its very likely that the Isolon Fist have figured out that Dusk Nymphs are immune by now (due to previous incursions). Even though Dusk Nymphs can hide in shadows and keep small, I would imagine there are ways to find them. Something as highly magical as a Fairy/Elemental hybrid is probably able to be detected using magically sensitive tools or artifacts. Her only chance would be to keep small and keep hidden. If she grew giant, she would be ripped to pieces by the Isolon Fist's and/or Vishmitals' magic and weapons. Once a Dusk Nymph realizes how dangerous Negav actually is to hang around, I imagine she would probably try to sneak out in a hurry.

- Elementals, especially the kinds fairies can mate with, are known to be very, very rare. Darkness elementals are very, very rare and are ONLY going to be native to dark areas. The Evernight, cave systems, etc. There's really no way any Darkness Elemental would even go to Negav. Whether or not they are immune to the Eye as well is unknown, but to be fair, its pretty much a non-issue (since no Darkness Elemental is ever going to be anywhere near Negav).

Do members of the Isolon Fist or the Ps'isol magiocrats ever retire? or do they not have that option?

well since aging isn't really that big a deal in Felarya... Age probably does not constitute retirement, but since Isolon Fist members are very powerful and dangerous, as well as some of the higher ranks knowing sensitive information. So the higher ups will probably consider "retirement" to be death only.

could a person from the Isolon fist or the magicocracy be fired? or would they be executed/exiled?

well if you are getting fired it's cause you screwed up majorly, and if you screw up majorly in felarya, that's probably going to equal you getting killed. When it comes to the isolon fist the only way you can leave is one of 4 ways,
A. You were too new to be any threat or get any information
B. you were injured to the point where you were incapable of being a threat
C. You ran off into the jungle and never returned to Negav again
D. You leave the fist, but still prove to be of valuable use

Prof.Nekko wrote:

well if you are getting fired it's cause you screwed up majorly, and if you screw up majorly in felarya, that's probably going to equal you getting killed. When it comes to the isolon fist the only way you can leave is one of 4 ways,
A. You were too new to be any threat or get any information
B. you were injured to the point where you were incapable of being a threat
C. You ran off into the jungle and never returned to Negav again
D. You leave the fist, but still prove to be of valuable use

The Isolon Fist isn't some kind of spartan-esque lifelong thing. Its a military unit. They probably have tours of duty just like everyone else. People can probably opt out at the end of their tour.

The only people who should have any trouble with that are the battlemages, since they are so highly trained and potentially dangerous. They likely have very limited job options if they leave The Fist, probably in the Isolon Academy or something.

Keep in mind, the Isolon Fist isn't a compulsary thing. People who join it, are doing it because they choose to. Between the thrill/danger of it, the pay and benefits, quite a few people stay in it for long periods of time. Its the most elite military unit in known Felarya.

rcs619 wrote:

The Isolon Fist isn't some kind of spartan-esque lifelong thing. Its a military unit. They probably have tours of duty just like everyone else. People can probably opt out at the end of their tour.

The only people who should have any trouble with that are the battlemages, since they are so highly trained and potentially dangerous. They likely have very limited job options if they leave The Fist, probably in the Isolon Academy or something.

Keep in mind, the Isolon Fist isn't a compulsary thing. People who join it, are doing it because they choose to. Between the thrill/danger of it, the pay and benefits, quite a few people stay in it for long periods of time. Its the most elite military unit in known Felarya.

Yeah I tried to revise that by saying that those who would present a threat to Negav and the Magiocrats if they left would not be allowed to live in that situation. After all you wouldn't just let a nuclear missile ride off into the sunset with a passionate Celine Dion soundtrack playing now would you?

Question: Can a Dog whistle affect something like a Inu or Kensha Beast?

Yes, but it would have to be designed for them. With Kensha beasts, that would mean that it'd be pretty big.
Also, they may not have the desired effect. With inu, since they are intelligent, they'd probably try to stop you, violently. Same with kensha actually, if they were close enough to identify you as the source.

Thank you AJ for the answer

I would define it a little bit more.

Yes, Inu and Kenshas and other canine creatures would be able to hear that whistle and it would probably be something that they dislike to hear from close up since it's an annoying sound. You as a human don't want to hear someone use a whistle next to your ear either and now imagine that a few times louder!

However, since Inus are intelligent beings, they do NOT always try to stop you from whistling by violence! Depending on certain agreements or previous uses, it may be used as an emergency signal that only a few species (inus included) could hear, so it would be something similar to a secret signal, like Using it to be found or warn other Inus of the same tribe or something like that. There is a high possibility that some Inus do excactly that, but not everyone of course.

AJ was right in the case that someone uses that whistle without caring about any secret messages and the like. It still is an annoying sound and if you use it as a human while being close to an Inu, they'd probably freak out after a few moments, maybe even attack you.

Amaroq wrote:

a few times louder!

It wouldn't be louder it would have a higher frequency. How loud something is is measured in decibel while frequency is measured in hertz.